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Hope you got your distemper shots.BaylorBJM said:Oldbear83 said:No, just a couple dogs barking because they could not follow the discussion.quash said:Oldbear83 said:
You are a sad, petty person, BJM.
Aw, did you get the response you deserved?
Above their heads.
Woof! Grrrr! Barkbarkbarkbark!
Oh OldBear/Gene. You're so silly. You being you, just like always.Oldbear83 said:Hope you got your distemper shots.BaylorBJM said:Oldbear83 said:No, just a couple dogs barking because they could not follow the discussion.quash said:Oldbear83 said:
You are a sad, petty person, BJM.
Aw, did you get the response you deserved?
Above their heads.
Woof! Grrrr! Barkbarkbarkbark!
Sometimes dog do, sometimes doggy doo-doo.BaylorBJM said:[ poops on lawn ]Oldbear83 said:Hope you got your distemper shots.BaylorBJM said:Oldbear83 said:No, just a couple dogs barking because they could not follow the discussion.quash said:Oldbear83 said:
You are a sad, petty person, BJM.
Aw, did you get the response you deserved?
Above their heads.
Woof! Grrrr! Barkbarkbarkbark!
Some interesting points, no doubt the US did just run a giant social distancing experiment.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/social-distancing-is-over/2020/06/05/73403a10-a750-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0OivRPi2zwWFWWbf4LUujStN6xk6pNIklYK94UpOqs8LEo1VldcUSUEPk
Social distancing is over
In a few weeks, one of two things will have happened. Either covid-19 cases will abruptly reverse their decline in some of America's largest cities, and we will know that they were seeded by the days of rage we are living through . . . or they won't. Either way, social distancing is over.
In the happy scenario, the protests will have performed an enormous public service, even beyond agitating for justice. They are basically running a natural experiment that scientists could never have ethically undertaken: Do massive outside gatherings including singing, chanting, screaming and coughing spread covid-19, or not? Along with evidence from the Memorial Day weekend parties at Missouri's Lake of the Ozarks, they may well demonstrate, once and for all, that the risk of spreading covid-19 outdoors is negligible. At which point, throw open the bar patios and backyard barbecues! Bring on the beach-blanket bingo! Move church pews into the parking lot and sing away!
It may seem obvious to you that ending police brutality rises to a level of importance that, say, church services don't. But the impossibility of rank-ordering competing ideas about what is "most important" is the reason liberal democracy had to be invented. If you were a religious believer, you might rank church higher; if you were about to lose your house unless your business reopened, you might put nail salons high up on the list.
As individuals, we can make those distinctions. But our authorities may not except on broadly neutral terms. Some public officials seem to imagine that if they can distinguish between selling food and offering Communion, they must also have the authority to make even finer distinctions: allowing people to exercise their First Amendment right to protest police brutality, while circumscribing their First Amendment right to worship in public. Legally, I doubt it, but I'm quite positive that courts won't let governments distinguish between assembling to protest police brutality and assembling to protest public health policy.
One can, of course, argue that there's a moral difference. But moral distinctions have no force outside the community that makes them. However satisfying it feels to call one sort of protest "suicidal," "reckless" and "mind-bogglingly selfish," while describing the other as a noble and necessary fight against injustice, this will not restrain the disdained. Indeed, the perceived hypocrisy will deafen them to anything said after that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/social-distancing-is-over/2020/06/05/73403a10-a750-11ea-b619-3f9133bbb482_story.html?fbclid=IwAR0OivRPi2zwWFWWbf4LUujStN6xk6pNIklYK94UpOqs8LEo1VldcUSUEPk
Social distancing is over
In a few weeks, one of two things will have happened. Either covid-19 cases will abruptly reverse their decline in some of America's largest cities, and we will know that they were seeded by the days of rage we are living through . . . or they won't. Either way, social distancing is over.
In the happy scenario, the protests will have performed an enormous public service, even beyond agitating for justice. They are basically running a natural experiment that scientists could never have ethically undertaken: Do massive outside gatherings including singing, chanting, screaming and coughing spread covid-19, or not? Along with evidence from the Memorial Day weekend parties at Missouri's Lake of the Ozarks, they may well demonstrate, once and for all, that the risk of spreading covid-19 outdoors is negligible. At which point, throw open the bar patios and backyard barbecues! Bring on the beach-blanket bingo! Move church pews into the parking lot and sing away!
It may seem obvious to you that ending police brutality rises to a level of importance that, say, church services don't. But the impossibility of rank-ordering competing ideas about what is "most important" is the reason liberal democracy had to be invented. If you were a religious believer, you might rank church higher; if you were about to lose your house unless your business reopened, you might put nail salons high up on the list.
As individuals, we can make those distinctions. But our authorities may not except on broadly neutral terms. Some public officials seem to imagine that if they can distinguish between selling food and offering Communion, they must also have the authority to make even finer distinctions: allowing people to exercise their First Amendment right to protest police brutality, while circumscribing their First Amendment right to worship in public. Legally, I doubt it, but I'm quite positive that courts won't let governments distinguish between assembling to protest police brutality and assembling to protest public health policy.
One can, of course, argue that there's a moral difference. But moral distinctions have no force outside the community that makes them. However satisfying it feels to call one sort of protest "suicidal," "reckless" and "mind-bogglingly selfish," while describing the other as a noble and necessary fight against injustice, this will not restrain the disdained. Indeed, the perceived hypocrisy will deafen them to anything said after that.
Bump.
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What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
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It got rioted away
Might want to keep an eye on Houston. Saw in the paper today where cases and more importantly hospitalizations are on the rise. Dallas has cases on the rise, but hospitalizations are still holding relatively steady. With all these protests and mingling not following guidelines, you know real cases are going to go up. Hopefully not to the point of becoming a problem. We still have too large a segment of the population not going out for all the businesses to get back to anywhere near what they need for long-term viability. They (the ones currently not going out) don't need additional verification that staying at home for them was the correct decision.
If you didn't see it on TV, it isn't real.blackie said:
Might want to keep an eye on Houston. Saw in the paper today where cases and more importantly hospitalizations are on the rise. Dallas has cases on the rise, but hospitalizations are still holding relatively steady. With all these protests and mingling not following guidelines, you know real cases are going to go up. Hopefully not to the point of becoming a problem. We still have too large a segment of the population not going out for all the businesses to get back to anywhere near what they need for long-term viability. They (the ones currently not going out) don't need additional verification that staying at home for them was the correct decision.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/COVID-19-cases-hospitalizations-spiking-in-15321171.phpblackie said:
Might want to keep an eye on Houston. Saw in the paper today where cases and more importantly hospitalizations are on the rise. Dallas has cases on the rise, but hospitalizations are still holding relatively steady. With all these protests and mingling not following guidelines, you know real cases are going to go up. Hopefully not to the point of becoming a problem. We still have too large a segment of the population not going out for all the businesses to get back to anywhere near what they need for long-term viability. They (the ones currently not going out) don't need additional verification that staying at home for them was the correct decision.
Unfortunately our neighbor has come down this weekend with the flu and she has no idea where she came into contact as they have pretty much stayed homebound. This is the first person I've known who actually tested positive for the virus.
Sigh.tommie said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-coronavirus-swabs-puritan-maine-thrown-out-2020-6
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/08/as-protesters-flout-coronavirus-lockdowns-racetrack-calls-the-governments-bluff-n506228
Quote:
Ace Speedway in Elon, North Carolina...
The speedway drew a crowd of more than 2,000 spectators in defiance of the state's coronavirus lockdown after declaring the spectacle a "protest,"
More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
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Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
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Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
You're right. Wrong threadOldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston,Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
Sorry
Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
meh.Osodecentx said:Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
My wife works near there, would have said something if that were true. She's a CNA and CMA.
I wonder if the TMC numbers are ICU or less critical hospitalizations more to give O2 and monitor status.
55 posts today alone? Who posts that much, and on every subject, and with no facts or attribution?Oldbear83 said:meh.Osodecentx said:Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
My wife works near there, would have said something if that were true. She's a CNA and CMA.
I hope your wife is working, because you aren't. You don't have a job and you aren't married. Which home school online service does your mother use? Get a refund
You should post less. Your Mommy needs to limit your screen time
Dude. Relax. That is not necessary. Okay to not agree with OldBear but the personal insults are not necessary.Osodecentx said:55 posts today alone? Who posts that much, and on every subject, and with no facts or attribution?Oldbear83 said:meh.Osodecentx said:Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
My wife works near there, would have said something if that were true. She's a CNA and CMA.
I hope your wife is working, because you aren't. You don't have a job and you aren't married. Which home school online service does your mother use? Get a refund
You should post less. Your Mommy needs to limit your screen time
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
So, you don't read his posts? I don't nowRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Relax. That is not necessary. Okay to not agree with OldBear but the personal insults are not necessary.Osodecentx said:55 posts today alone? Who posts that much, and on every subject, and with no facts or attribution?Oldbear83 said:meh.Osodecentx said:Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
My wife works near there, would have said something if that were true. She's a CNA and CMA.
I hope your wife is working, because you aren't. You don't have a job and you aren't married. Which home school online service does your mother use? Get a refund
You should post less. Your Mommy needs to limit your screen time
Have you ever posted 55 times in one day?
IGNORE
1. where did you get "55 posts"? Out of your ass, like the rest of your post, I guess.Osodecentx said:55 posts today alone? Who posts that much, and on every subject, and with no facts or attribution?Oldbear83 said:meh.Osodecentx said:Dr Scott Gottlieb on CNBC Squawk Box this morning at 6:22 AM.Oldbear83 said:That does not say anything about COVID hospitalizations in the TMC of Houston, and dude, wikipedia for a media source?Osodecentx said:Worked in Texas. The media did report itOldbear83 said:Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no I don't think so.Osodecentx said:More hospitalizations for Covid in Houston Medical Center alone than in all of NYCRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:
Bump.
What happened to Corona? This thread is on life support. Can we all go back to work now?
Even our lousy media would have mentioned it if that were true.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_House_Bill_588
The law has drawn praise and criticism alike. Supporters of the rule argue that it ensures geographic and ethnic diversity in public universities. They also point out that students admitted under the legislation performed better in college than their counterparts. The law has been blamed for keeping students not in the top ten percent but with other credentials, such as high SAT scores or leadership and extracurricular experience, out of the larger "flagship" state universities, such as the University of Texas at Austin and Texas A&M University, College Station. UT-Austin has argued for several years that the law has come to account for too many of its entering students, with 81 percent of the 2008 freshmen having enrolled under it.
More new COVID hospital admissions in TMC than all of NYC
My wife works near there, would have said something if that were true. She's a CNA and CMA.
I hope your wife is working, because you aren't. You don't have a job and you aren't married. Which home school online service does your mother use? Get a refund
You should post less. Your Mommy needs to limit your screen time
This article is being discussed on the pay side thread. Thought it warranted attention here as well. WHO says studies are showing asymptomatic spread is "very rare".
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
Last I saw they were on track to exceed base ICU capacity in less than two weeks.Jacques Strap said:
I wonder if the TMC numbers are ICU or less critical hospitalizations more to give O2 and monitor status.
New York reopened today? Call me skeptical. I have no reason to believe that a majority of New Yorkers want to go back to work. Just look at their leadership.
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"
-- Barack Obama
-- Barack Obama
ATL Bear said:
This article is being discussed on the pay side thread. Thought it warranted attention here as well. WHO says studies are showing asymptomatic spread is "very rare".
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/asymptomatic-coronavirus-patients-arent-spreading-new-infections-who-says.html
By the time the pandemic is over, we are going to know a lot about this disease.
But obviously great news.
Texas reports a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients after state reopened early
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/texas-reports-a-record-high-number-of-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-after-state-reopened-early.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/texas-reports-a-record-high-number-of-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-after-state-reopened-early.html
TexasScientist said:
Texas reports a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients after state reopened early
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/texas-reports-a-record-high-number-of-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-after-state-reopened-early.html
Why do you think CNBC never reports positive news?
The same reason most news services don't. Sensational news appeals more to people.Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
Texas reports a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients after state reopened early
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/texas-reports-a-record-high-number-of-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-after-state-reopened-early.html
Why do you think CNBC never reports positive news?
Why does so much news seem negative? Human attention may be to blame.
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2019-09-05/why-people-respond-to-negative-news
In this case, though, the question about the results of a surge in new cases, after openning back up has been a looming concern.
Florda_mike said:TexasScientist said:
Texas reports a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients after state reopened early
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/08/texas-reports-a-record-high-number-of-hospitalized-coronavirus-patients-after-state-reopened-early.html
Why do you think CNBC never reports positive news?
Atl Bear's post is great news..reported by CNBC.