BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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Anomaly. Look at population density, the number of people from outside NYC who go through their on business, plus the port traffic.

I'd give a hard look at major port cities. Seems like New York, San Diego, Houston, etc are all at risk of higher-than-average case numbers, due to all the foreign traffic. I remember Houston being proud that we have businesses and residents from 181 countries here. Now that data point is worrisome.

Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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My personal opinion is that it's an anomaly for a myriad of reasons. Many states had confirmed cases and even deaths before New York did, but it has exploded there like nowhere else.

ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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My personal opinion is that it's an anomaly for a myriad of reasons. Many states had confirmed cases and even deaths before New York did, but it has exploded there like nowhere else.

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I think the subway system helped create a perfect storm

Chicago has the elevated train system. I'm wondering where Chicago will be in a week

Osodecentx said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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My personal opinion is that it's an anomaly for a myriad of reasons. Many states had confirmed cases and even deaths before New York did, but it has exploded there like nowhere else.

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I think the subway system helped create a perfect storm

Chicago has the elevated train system. I'm wondering where Chicago will be in a week

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Good point. That is also ominous for London, Paris and any other major city which depends heavily on mass transit/

Osodecentx said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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My personal opinion is that it's an anomaly for a myriad of reasons. Many states had confirmed cases and even deaths before New York did, but it has exploded there like nowhere else.

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I think the subway system helped create a perfect storm

Chicago has the elevated train system. I'm wondering where Chicago will be in a week

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New York has the highest use of public transportation by far in the US. I saw a stat that said 1 out of 3 users of mass transit in the US lives in NYC. Furthermore something like 65% of all New Yorkers use the rail system to commute to work and like only 40% own a car.

Chicago is way below that despite use of the El trains.

This began in the state of Washington. It quickly spread to California. Neither of those states has experienced anything close to the explosion of NYC virus.

Population density. International gateway. Public Transportation.

I have no the average health condition of a person in NYC but it couldn't be as good as Seattle or LA.

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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This began in the state of Washington. It quickly spread to California. Neither of those states has experienced anything close to the explosion of NYC virus.

Population density. International gateway. Public Transportation.

I have no the average health condition of a person in NYC but it couldn't be as good as Seattle or LA.

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I think LA is spread out more, but at risk due to public transit and pollution. Seattle is low density, better air, quality,

Aliceinbubbleland said:

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This began in the state of Washington. It quickly spread to California. Neither of those states has experienced anything close to the explosion of NYC virus.

Population density. International gateway. Public Transportation.

I have no the average health condition of a person in NYC but it couldn't be as good as Seattle or LA.

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I'd bet this is partially due to the fact that 1) the Bay Area, which briefly seemed like a hotspot, has been very good about implementation of distancing practices and 2) in Washington, many of the original outbreaks were all tied to that one nursing home. But ya, I'd bet even more concentration of people, harder to enforce distancing (because of sheer population), and lower overall health of NYers comes into play.

LTbear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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This began in the state of Washington. It quickly spread to California. Neither of those states has experienced anything close to the explosion of NYC virus.

Population density. International gateway. Public Transportation.

I have no the average health condition of a person in NYC but it couldn't be as good as Seattle or LA.

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I'd bet this is partially due to the fact that 1) the Bay Area, which briefly seemed like a hotspot, has been very good about implementation of distancing practices and 2) in Washington, many of the original outbreaks were all tied to that one nursing home. But ya, I'd bet even more concentration of people, harder to enforce distancing (because of sheer population), and lower overall health of NYers comes into play.

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I always wondered about the wisdom of eating that many hot dogs on a regular basis.

Oldbear83 said:

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LTbear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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This began in the state of Washington. It quickly spread to California. Neither of those states has experienced anything close to the explosion of NYC virus.

Population density. International gateway. Public Transportation.

I have no the average health condition of a person in NYC but it couldn't be as good as Seattle or LA.

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I'd bet this is partially due to the fact that 1) the Bay Area, which briefly seemed like a hotspot, has been very good about implementation of distancing practices and 2) in Washington, many of the original outbreaks were all tied to that one nursing home. But ya, I'd bet even more concentration of people, harder to enforce distancing (because of sheer population), and lower overall health of NYers comes into play.

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I always wondered about the wisdom of eating that many hot dogs on a regular basis.

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The torrent of Americans filing for unemployment insurance skyrocketed last week as more than 6.6 million new claims were filed, the Labor Department reported Thursday. That brings to 10 million the total Americans who filed over the past two weeks.

At a profession level, the biggest groups looking for work are bartenders, athletic coaches and wait staff, according to CareerBuilder. Taxi and truck drivers along with food prep workers and supervisors also are high on the list.

It's going to get worse on the unemployment front. NYC prides itself on being the "financial capital of the world". Since the NYSE floor has been closed for a week we have seen markets continue to function in abnormal times, albeit this is anything but normal.

This is the kind of impact the shut downs are having. I live in Ohio where the Governor is being praised for his actions of shutting down the state...

In 2019 364,000 people filed for unemployment, for the entire calendar year.

In the last two weeks of March 2020 468,414 people filed for unemployment. 272,117 filed the last week of March alone.

That is to say that around 100,000 more people filed unemployment in the last 2 weeks than in all of 2019.

New York just reported another 8500 new cases there and it's just noon. That qualifies as #1 in the world by itself for nearly everyday of this pandemic.

Better than the thousands of deaths due to out of control spread overwhelming hospitals.

TexasScientist said:

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Better than the thousands of deaths due to out of control spread overwhelming hospitals.

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Better? It is out of control in one region in our country, and it's a region that's been on a lockdown for 2 weeks. Perhaps the measures don't really matter as much as we think.

My company just laid off another 25 employees this morning,

That's our second wave of layoffs. Small but worrisome.

I'm 3 employees down in my group now.

Good news if possible: day / day incidence this week continue to hover around15% (16.1% Tuesday, 13.8% yesterday, 14.5% today), so as noted previously we're not seeing the so-called "exponential" growth that was predicted. Almost 60% of cases continue to be in CA/WA/NY-NJ. Texas remains behind many other larger states in terms of prevalence.

For every case of Wuhan Virus, 46.45 people have lost their jobs.

Careful now, the MSM may accuse the Japanese Deputy PM of being "racist".

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/02/politics/stimulus-20-weeks-irs/index.html

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Americans likely won't begin to see direct payments from the coronavirus stimulus bill until at least April 13 and it could take 20 weeks for all the checks to be mailed, Trump administration officials told lawmakers, according to a House Democratic memo obtained by CNN.

The timeline means tens of millions of Americans will have to wait to get badly needed assistance, despite repeated suggestions from Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin that the money would go out as soon as April 6. He said this past Sunday after passage of the $2.2 trillion stimulus bill that payments would not go out until mid-April.

CNN reported in March that former IRS officials said the wait would likely be weeks or months.

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For every covid-19 related death in Ohio 5,800 have lost their job. 81 deaths...468,000 unemployment claims.

Baylor has now moved all summer classes online. Let's hope this thing is gone by August.

nein51 said:

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For every covid-19 related death in Ohio 5,800 have lost their job. 81 deaths...468,000 unemployment claims.

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Wow! I am still not convinced that the "cure" may not be more devastating in the end than the virus itself. Not just Ohio, but our entire country.

Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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Anomaly. Look at population density, the number of people from outside NYC who go through their on business, plus the port traffic.

I'd give a hard look at major port cities. Seems like New York, San Diego, Houston, etc are all at risk of higher-than-average case numbers, due to all the foreign traffic. I remember Houston being proud that we have businesses and residents from 181 countries here. Now that data point is worrisome.

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New Orleans is doing terribly.

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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Anomaly. Look at population density, the number of people from outside NYC who go through their on business, plus the port traffic.

I'd give a hard look at major port cities. Seems like New York, San Diego, Houston, etc are all at risk of higher-than-average case numbers, due to all the foreign traffic. I remember Houston being proud that we have businesses and residents from 181 countries here. Now that data point is worrisome.

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New Orleans is doing terribly.

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Yeah, some places are going to get hit hard.

Wimbledon cancelled for the first time since WW2.

Jack Bauer said:

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Wimbledon cancelled for the first time since WW2.

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The Open Championship too.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/28824781/list-sporting-events-canceled-coronavirus

Oldbear83 said:

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Booray said:

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BearTruth13 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 215,003
Total deaths: 5,102

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)

New York is a problem. No other way to say it. In fact the 5 or 7 county area of NYC and into NJ is the force majeure driving these massive increases. Whatever measures they've taken aren't working.

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New York's numbers are insane. Just their numbers alone would be enough for 4th most cases and 8th most deaths worldwide.

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So is NYC a leading indicator or an anomaly?

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Anomaly. Look at population density, the number of people from outside NYC who go through their on business, plus the port traffic.

I'd give a hard look at major port cities. Seems like New York, San Diego, Houston, etc are all at risk of higher-than-average case numbers, due to all the foreign traffic. I remember Houston being proud that we have businesses and residents from 181 countries here. Now that data point is worrisome.

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Graduated from a public HS in Houston: 35 languages spoken at home. I learned that after I left, had no idea while I was in school. We divided up by dress and interest groups.

quash said:

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Graduated from a public HS in Houston: 35 languages spoken at home. I learned that after I left, had no idea while I was in school. We divided up by dress and interest groups.

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Obviously you went to Memorial or Stratford in SBISD. I can't imagine any public high school in HISD that "only" had 35 languages. Back in 1960's Robert E Lee was exemplary. Today it has more languages then the United Nations and in need of closing. It is nothing more than a free lunch program.