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TS claims not to be liberal, then demonstrates pronounced TDS in his post above.

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I've explained before TDS is a continuum. Trump delusion does not equate to being conservative. It is delusion all by itself, plain and simple.

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No, you are making excuses for yourself rather than seriously considering if your bias invalidates your claims. At this point in time, for example, anyone blaming the President or praising the President for his actions in response to the virus outbreak in the US is acting prematurely, as we have yet to see the real effects of those actions.

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One needs to look no further than tuning in to his daily press conference to see first hand validation of claims I've made. You get a real time (live) reality TV show. His running daily full display of incompetence is enough for blame. If he stepped up to the responsibility of his office, I would acknowledge him for it. Until then....

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All you have done, TS, is confirm that your opinion creates a circular logic. You see and hear what you want to see and hear. You just filter out anything that gets in the way.

Even Gov. Cuomo praised the President's actions. You are no scientist, since you reject evidence unless it supports your preconceived conclusion.

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You may want to take your statements about me and turn them around to yourself for an introspective self evaluation.

I'll give Trump credit when and where credit is due. For instance some of his executive orders were positive to business and the economy. I commend him for taking out Baghdadi, in spite of his inability to resist self aggrandizement for doing so. Apparently he has cooperated at times with Governor Cuomo, and then as Cuomo has pointed out, Trump's propensity for pettiness comes through. However, there is something fundamentally wrong with someone who requires flattery and obsequious adulation in order to even give pretense to cooperation.

You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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Why are you laughing, Florda? This whole country is stressed out and depressed right now, I figure TS is going through a hard time, maybe.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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Why are you laughing, Florda? This whole country is stressed out and depressed right now, I figure TS is going through a hard time, maybe.

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I'm laughing because I thought you were being sarcastic? Should have known otherwise I guess

Stressed? I'm not stressed! I'm taking time out to read and learn and contact old friends and have time to spend talking to them. Wife and I are getting more time together since early marriage and taking drives together and laughing as we search for no less than ..... toilet paper! Hilarious

We're low fat healthy adults so why fear?

TS is nothing but a mentally ill(TDS) child that of course, can't handle life now, he can't ever handle life! He's a scientist, an atheist! He has no God!

You sympathizing with him could be perpetual

Need a private coronavirus argument thread.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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I'm fine, certainly I'm not bitter. I'm just trying to right wrong where I see it in my part of the world.

Good news: case incidence increased 4.4% day / day, and mortality increased 1.4% - the lowest percentage increases since I've been tracking. Continues to be largely a NY-NJ problem (relatively).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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Why are you laughing, Florda? This whole country is stressed out and depressed right now, I figure TS is going through a hard time, maybe.

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I'm laughing because I thought you were being sarcastic? Should have known otherwise I guess

Stressed? I'm not stressed! I'm taking time out to read and learn and contact old friends and have time to spend talking to them. Wife and I are getting more time together since early marriage and taking drives together and laughing as we search for no less than ..... toilet paper! Hilarious

We're low fat healthy adults so why fear?

TS is nothing but a mentally ill(TDS) child that of course, can't handle life now, he can't ever handle life! He's a scientist, an atheist! He has no God!

You sympathizing with him could be perpetual

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I'm handling the reality of life just fine. I don't rely on fictitious and delusional beliefs about reality and Trump to handle life. Hope you find that TP you're looking for.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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I'm fine, certainly I'm not bitter. I'm just trying to right wrong where I see it in my part of the world.

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Vaya con Dios, senor La Mancha

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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I'm fine, certainly I'm not bitter. I'm just trying to right wrong where I see it in my part of the world.

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Vaya con Dios, senor La Mancha

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Muy bien mi amigo. Algunas personas en nuestro pas no entenderan lo que quieres decir.

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You are very bitter, TS. I hope the lockdown is not causing you too much stress.

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Why are you laughing, Florda? This whole country is stressed out and depressed right now, I figure TS is going through a hard time, maybe.

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I'm laughing because I thought you were being sarcastic? Should have known otherwise I guess

Stressed? I'm not stressed! I'm taking time out to read and learn and contact old friends and have time to spend talking to them. Wife and I are getting more time together since early marriage and taking drives together and laughing as we search for no less than ..... toilet paper! Hilarious

We're low fat healthy adults so why fear?

TS is nothing but a mentally ill(TDS) child that of course, can't handle life now, he can't ever handle life! He's a scientist, an atheist! He has no God!

You sympathizing with him could be perpetual

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Move zig for great justice. AYBABTU.

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Muy bien mi amigo. Algunas personas en nuestro pas no entenderan lo que quieres decir.

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Yo solo hablo un poco

Interesting way to compare how the US has done compared to Europe in handling the virus:

Taking the case and death numbers from Worldometer.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

a lot of people make a big deal about how many cases and deaths have been in the US. But the US has had 610,467 cases and 25,854 deaths in a country with a population of 331 million people.

Spain, Italy, France, Germany and the UK have a comparable aggregate population of 325 million, and if they are taken together they have 703,564 confirmed cases and 70,253 deaths. That is, a comparable number of cases per million (2,165 per million in Europe to the 1,844 per million in the US), but far more deaths, 2.7 to 1 .

For all the suffering, we're doing something better here.

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Interesting way to compare how the US has done compared to Europe in handling the virus:

Taking the case and death numbers from Worldometer.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

a lot of people make a big deal about how many cases and deaths have been in the US. But the US has had 610,467 cases and 25,854 deaths in a country with a population of 331 million people.

Spain, Italy, France, Germany and the UK have a comparable aggregate population of 325 million, and if they are taken together they have 703,564 confirmed cases and 70,253 deaths. That is, a comparable number of cases per million (2,165 per million in Europe to the 1,844 per million in the US), but far more deaths, 2.7 to 1 .

For all the suffering, we're doing something better here.

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You didn't even need to add them together. Each one of those nation's CFR mortality (deaths/confirmed cases) is much higher than the US. Germany is the one doing very well and better than us.

That being said, you're correct that we're doing something better here.

bit of a global spike today. biggest increase in count and deaths in weeks.

don't count out Death just yet.

he won't let go of his crown easily.

we'll have to wrest it away.

- BUmma

{ eating organic oatmeal }

I think this was the deadliest day yet for the US, at about 2,400.

This is the best link for Texas that I have seen.

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Click on the links at the bottom for regional staffing, ventilators, hospital capacities, etc.

Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.
April 2: 29,874 new cases. 968 new deaths.
April 3: 32,284 new cases. 1,321 new deaths.
April 4: 34,196 new cases. 1,331 new deaths.
April 5: 25,316 new cases. 1,165 new deaths.
April 6: 30,331 new cases. 1,255 new deaths.
April 7: 33,331 new cases. 1,970 new deaths.
April 8: 31,935 new cases. 1,940 new deaths
April 9: 33,536 new cases. 1,900 new deaths.
April 10: 33,752 new cases. 2,035 new deaths.
April 11: 30,003 new cases. 1,830 new deaths
April 12: 27,421 new cases. 1,528 new deaths.
April 13: 26,641 new cases. 1,535 new deaths.
April 14: 26,945 new cases. 2,407 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 613,886
Total deaths: 26,047

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths
April 2: 4,823 cases. 77 deaths
April 3: 5,658 cases. 97 deaths
April 4: 6,311 cases. 111 deaths
April 5: 7,044 cases. 133 deaths
April 6: 8,088 cases. 151 deaths
April 7: 8,939 cases. 167 deaths
April 8: 10,065 cases. 195 deaths
April 9: 11,426 cases. 222 deaths
April 10: 12,186 cases. 248 deaths.
April 11: 13,205 cases. 267 deaths
April 12: 13,640 cases. 278 deaths
April 13: 14,277 cases. 295 deaths
April 14: 15,013 cases. 345 deaths

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)
April 2: 93,053 cases. 2,583 deaths.
April 3: 103,476 cases. 3,218 deaths. (680 today!)
April 4: 114,775 cases. 3,565 deaths.
April 5: 123,018 cases. 4,159 deaths. (594 today)
April 6: 131,916 cases. 4,758 deaths. (599 today)
April 7: 142,384 cases. 5,489 deaths. (731 today)
April 8: 151,171 cases. 6,268 deaths. (779 today)
April 9: 161,504 cases. 7,067 deaths. (799 today)
April 10: 172,358 cases. 7,844 deaths. (777 today)
April 11: 181,144 cases. 8,627 deaths (783 today)
April 12: 189,415 cases. 9,385 deaths (758 today)
April 13: 195,655 cases. 10,056 deaths (671 today)
April 14: 203,123 cases. 10,834 deaths (778 today)

Twos steps forward, one step back. Worst day of the year for Jersey deaths (362) and overall. NY/NJ/MI with over half of the fatalities.....still.

Stimulus Shock

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This is the best link for Texas that I have seen.

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

Click on the links at the bottom for regional staffing, ventilators, hospital capacities, etc.

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I've noticed the total is 1-2 days behind what some of the counties are posting as a total.

Yeah, right now it is reporting only through 4/14/2020 at 11:47am.

Harris Co Deaths-46
Bexar Co Deaths-33
Dallas Co Deaths-32
Tarrant Co Deaths-25
Lubbock Co Deaths-21

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According to the CDC, the last two days cases have increased 4.4% and 4.6% d/d. By far the lowest increases since anyone was really counting. Absolute new cases ~24K and 26K, so definitely trending in the right direction.

Updated as of noon today, 4/15/2020

4/14/2020
Harris Co Deaths-46
Bexar Co Deaths-33
Dallas Co Deaths-32
Tarrant Co Deaths-25
Lubbock Co Deaths-21

4/15/2020
Harris Co Deaths-52
Bexar Co Deaths-42
Dallas Co Deaths-33
Tarrant Co Deaths-29
Lubbock Co Deaths-25

https://txdshs.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/ed483ecd702b4298ab01e8b9cafc8b83

I see the Democrat voters are beginning to receive their checks.

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Maryland and Michigan are neighbors to NY?

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Nice piece of propaganda. Too bad it leaves out the complete story.

Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.
April 2: 29,874 new cases. 968 new deaths.
April 3: 32,284 new cases. 1,321 new deaths.
April 4: 34,196 new cases. 1,331 new deaths.
April 5: 25,316 new cases. 1,165 new deaths.
April 6: 30,331 new cases. 1,255 new deaths.
April 7: 33,331 new cases. 1,970 new deaths.
April 8: 31,935 new cases. 1,940 new deaths
April 9: 33,536 new cases. 1,900 new deaths.
April 10: 33,752 new cases. 2,035 new deaths.
April 11: 30,003 new cases. 1,830 new deaths
April 12: 27,421 new cases. 1,528 new deaths.
April 13: 26,641 new cases. 1,535 new deaths.
April 14: 26,945 new cases. 2,407 new deaths.
April 15: 30,206 new cases. 2,482 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 644,089
Total deaths: 28,529

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths
April 2: 4,823 cases. 77 deaths
April 3: 5,658 cases. 97 deaths
April 4: 6,311 cases. 111 deaths
April 5: 7,044 cases. 133 deaths
April 6: 8,088 cases. 151 deaths
April 7: 8,939 cases. 167 deaths
April 8: 10,065 cases. 195 deaths
April 9: 11,426 cases. 222 deaths
April 10: 12,186 cases. 248 deaths.
April 11: 13,205 cases. 267 deaths
April 12: 13,640 cases. 278 deaths
April 13: 14,277 cases. 295 deaths
April 14: 15,013 cases. 345 deaths
April 15: 16,009 cases. 375 deaths.

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)
April 2: 93,053 cases. 2,583 deaths.
April 3: 103,476 cases. 3,218 deaths. (680 today!)
April 4: 114,775 cases. 3,565 deaths.
April 5: 123,018 cases. 4,159 deaths. (594 today)
April 6: 131,916 cases. 4,758 deaths. (599 today)
April 7: 142,384 cases. 5,489 deaths. (731 today)
April 8: 151,171 cases. 6,268 deaths. (779 today)
April 9: 161,504 cases. 7,067 deaths. (799 today)
April 10: 172,358 cases. 7,844 deaths. (777 today)
April 11: 181,144 cases. 8,627 deaths (783 today)
April 12: 189,415 cases. 9,385 deaths (758 today)
April 13: 195,655 cases. 10,056 deaths (671 today)
April 14: 203,123 cases. 10,834 deaths (778 today)
April 15: 214,648 cases. 11,586 deaths (752 today)

For NY to have another case spike and continuing their fatality rate tells me social distancing and lockdown measures are really not the solution some think it is. And to argue "but it would be so much worse" is completely speculative.

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Updated virus progression

March 19: 4,530 new cases, 57 new deaths
March 20: 5,594 new cases, 49 new deaths
March 21: 4,824 new cases, 46 new deaths
March 22: 9,339 new cases. 117 new deaths
March 23: 10,168 new cases. 140 new deaths.
March 24: 11,089 new cases. 225 new deaths.
March 25: 13,355 new cases. 247 new deaths.
March 26: 17,224 new cases. 268 new deaths.
March 27: 18,691 new cases. 401 new deaths.
March 28: 19,452 new cases. 525 new deaths
March 29: 18,882 new cases. 264 new deaths
March 30: 20,353 new cases. 573 new deaths.
March 31: 24,742 new cases. 912 new deaths.
April 1: 26,473 new cases. 1049 new deaths.
April 2: 29,874 new cases. 968 new deaths.
April 3: 32,284 new cases. 1,321 new deaths.
April 4: 34,196 new cases. 1,331 new deaths.
April 5: 25,316 new cases. 1,165 new deaths.
April 6: 30,331 new cases. 1,255 new deaths.
April 7: 33,331 new cases. 1,970 new deaths.
April 8: 31,935 new cases. 1,940 new deaths
April 9: 33,536 new cases. 1,900 new deaths.
April 10: 33,752 new cases. 2,035 new deaths.
April 11: 30,003 new cases. 1,830 new deaths
April 12: 27,421 new cases. 1,528 new deaths.
April 13: 26,641 new cases. 1,535 new deaths.
April 14: 26,945 new cases. 2,407 new deaths.
April 15: 30,206 new cases. 2,482 new deaths.

Total cases (tested): 644,089
Total deaths: 28,529

Texas:
March 30: 2,906 cases. 41 deaths.
March 31: 3,666 cases. 56 deaths.
April 1: 4,068 cases. 60 deaths
April 2: 4,823 cases. 77 deaths
April 3: 5,658 cases. 97 deaths
April 4: 6,311 cases. 111 deaths
April 5: 7,044 cases. 133 deaths
April 6: 8,088 cases. 151 deaths
April 7: 8,939 cases. 167 deaths
April 8: 10,065 cases. 195 deaths
April 9: 11,426 cases. 222 deaths
April 10: 12,186 cases. 248 deaths.
April 11: 13,205 cases. 267 deaths
April 12: 13,640 cases. 278 deaths
April 13: 14,277 cases. 295 deaths
April 14: 15,013 cases. 345 deaths
April 15: 16,009 cases. 375 deaths.

New York:
March 30: 67,325 cases. 1,342 deaths.
March 31: 75,983 cases. 1,714 deaths.
April 1: 83,901 cases. 2,219 deaths. (505 today!)
April 2: 93,053 cases. 2,583 deaths.
April 3: 103,476 cases. 3,218 deaths. (680 today!)
April 4: 114,775 cases. 3,565 deaths.
April 5: 123,018 cases. 4,159 deaths. (594 today)
April 6: 131,916 cases. 4,758 deaths. (599 today)
April 7: 142,384 cases. 5,489 deaths. (731 today)
April 8: 151,171 cases. 6,268 deaths. (779 today)
April 9: 161,504 cases. 7,067 deaths. (799 today)
April 10: 172,358 cases. 7,844 deaths. (777 today)
April 11: 181,144 cases. 8,627 deaths (783 today)
April 12: 189,415 cases. 9,385 deaths (758 today)
April 13: 195,655 cases. 10,056 deaths (671 today)
April 14: 203,123 cases. 10,834 deaths (778 today)
April 15: 214,648 cases. 11,586 deaths (752 today)

For NY to have another case spike and continuing their fatality rate tells me social distancing and lockdown measures are really not the solution some think it is. And to argue "but it would be so much worse" is completely speculative.

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I don't really see them as spikes. Except for April 13, the new cases and deaths in NY have been in a fairly tight range from April 7-15. It looks to me like Apr. 13 was the anomaly in that data set. Also, it is hard to judge how effective social distancing was/is based on numbers for the whole state; my understanding was that NYC was leveling off and Long Island was picking up, while upstate had remained pretty constant throughout. There could be lots of explanations for that.