That's exactly how I read it.Booray said:Another way of saying this is that per capita Covid deaths were less in states where social distancing is a way of life.Flaming Moderate said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/news-from-the-non-lockdown-states-11592954700?fbclid=IwAR180LKwP7iB_1VtY3l_Xe71WMGAzDRm-7uLt2LXSjg03gyFh8ds4ntFQhM
A new analysis by The Sentinel, a Kansas nonprofit, compares the 42 states that shut down most of their economies with the eight that did not. The latter group includes mostly rural states with some small metropolitan areas: North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming and Utah. Private employment on average fell by 7.8% between May 2019 and May 2020 in these states while plunging 13.2% in the others.
Rural state economies generally rely more on "essential" services like agriculture and food production, and some industries like energy and hospitality would have shed jobs regardless of the lockdowns. Still, private job losses were higher in states that locked down like Colorado (9.5%) compared to economically similar ones that didn't like Utah (4.6%).
Yet per-capita Covid fatalities in states that stayed open were on average about 75% lower than those that locked down. One reason is that deaths in most states, regardless of whether they locked down, have been concentrated in nursing home facilities and minority communities that have higher rates of underlying health conditions and multigenerational housing.
I am sure the rural countes in New York had much lower COvid per capita deaths than did NYC even though both suffered shut downs..
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Life expectancy in Sweden 82.3 yearsTexasScientist said:That didn't work so well for Sweden.Flaming Moderate said:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/news-from-the-non-lockdown-states-11592954700?fbclid=IwAR180LKwP7iB_1VtY3l_Xe71WMGAzDRm-7uLt2LXSjg03gyFh8ds4ntFQhM
A new analysis by The Sentinel, a Kansas nonprofit, compares the 42 states that shut down most of their economies with the eight that did not. The latter group includes mostly rural states with some small metropolitan areas: North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Iowa, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Wyoming and Utah. Private employment on average fell by 7.8% between May 2019 and May 2020 in these states while plunging 13.2% in the others.
Rural state economies generally rely more on "essential" services like agriculture and food production, and some industries like energy and hospitality would have shed jobs regardless of the lockdowns. Still, private job losses were higher in states that locked down like Colorado (9.5%) compared to economically similar ones that didn't like Utah (4.6%).
Yet per-capita Covid fatalities in states that stayed open were on average about 75% lower than those that locked down. One reason is that deaths in most states, regardless of whether they locked down, have been concentrated in nursing home facilities and minority communities that have higher rates of underlying health conditions and multigenerational housing.
https://www.google.com/search?q=life+expectancy+in+sweden&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS792US792&oq=life+expectancy+in+sweden&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l7.6431j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Average age of covid fatality in Sweden ~82.5 years
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107913/number-of-coronavirus-deaths-in-sweden-by-age-groups/
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
If the population was to voluntarily pull back today the impact may not materialize for 7 to 14 days. At a 6.2% growth rate the number of new hospitalizations will double in 11 days and triple in 18 days.
Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Why would you expect someone to explain that to you? It's simply not true. And anyone who says otherwise is so far to the left that engaging with them is probably just as pointless as engaging with those equally as far to the right.
I would like all the far left folks to acknowledge that ... my social media literally went from:LTbear said:Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Why would you expect someone to explain that to you? It's simply not true. And anyone who says otherwise is so far to the left that engaging with them is probably just as pointless as engaging with those equally as far to the right.
1. Virtue signaling about staying home
2. Virtue signaling about protesting
3. Virtue signaling about staying home
That kind of intellectual dishonestly is why we can't have nice things.
Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
I guess another reason the looting was not a good idea.quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Quote:
Bloomberg Markets Live Blog: Stocks leaped into the green in the last hour of trading after fluctuating throughout the session as Covid-19 continues to spread nationwide. The late surge appeared to be tied to big buy programs that kicked in after encouraging comments from Houston hospital executives about the city's treatment capacity after the state's governor halted efforts to reopen. Meanwhile,
https://www.hellowoodlands.com/houston-hospitals-share-joint-statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-executive-order/
Quote:
On Thursday, June 25, 2020, the following joint statement was shared from St. Luke's Health, Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System & Texas Children's Hospital regarding Houston hospital capacity and executive order.
CEOs across the Texas Medical Center have monitored the ongoing transmission of COVID-19 in our community and across the state since the earliest days of this pandemic. In response to the recent increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, we want to reassure the public that this pandemic is not eclipsing our capabilities. Our hospitals have the ICU capacity, staff and supplies to meet the healthcare needs of our community. In addition, Texas hospitals continue to reserve 15 percent of capacity for COVID-19 patients and medical care continues to be routinely provided in inpatient and outpatient settings without taxing the overall hospitalization capacity.
We realize that the letter issued by the Texas Medical Center yesterday afternoon caused unnecessary alarm. Our intent was to educate Houstonians and not alarm them about capacity, which is not an immediate concern.
This morning, the governor issued an executive order restricting elective surgeries across several Texas counties, including Harris County. We respect what the governor is doing to fight this terrible virus and we will continue to work with him and local officials to care for our community.
It is our hope that the executive order will only be in place for a short period of time, as it is critically important that we continue to meet the health needs of our community.
Each hospital system has prepared for months to address the anticipated needs of this pandemic and has surge plans in place to successfully manage its own capacity to continue treating COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. Additionally, our hospitals are working together to manage capacity levels and ensure the highest quality care for all who need it. We will continue to work closely with state leadership and public health experts to help maintain statewide visibility on acute capacity issues and other critical concerns.
While this pandemic is unprecedented, our hospital systems have learned a lot, very quickly, and our coordinated efforts have allowed us to nimbly respond to this fluid situation. As leaders, we can attest to the heft, might, devotion and compassion of our workforce in caring for those with COVID-19 and those who arrive at our doors seeking care for other urgent medical needs. We are ready to serve the community and will do so in the safest way and environment possible. Through enhanced testing efforts, strict screening procedures and dedicated units to separate potentially infectious patients from the general population, hospital care is safe, ready and available for those who need it.
As we continue to navigate this pandemic, the public plays an essential role in helping preserve hospital capacity. It is critical to wear a mask or face covering anytime you leave your home, practice appropriate social distancing by avoiding large crowds and gatherings, wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds, and avoid touching your face.
Responding to emergencies with precision is a hallmark of Texas hospitals. Our mission and responsibility is to provide the care our community needs. We must maintain a thoughtful balance between caring for those impacted by COVID-19 and addressing all other healthcare needs of our community, including critical surgeries and procedures. We stand ready and committed to providing you and your family with the health care you need.
Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
Elective surgeries are the real moneymaker for hospital systems, so I'm sure they're not happy about the declaration. Suddenly, it's not really as bad as it was portrayed.Jacques Strap said:Quote:
Bloomberg Markets Live Blog: Stocks leaped into the green in the last hour of trading after fluctuating throughout the session as Covid-19 continues to spread nationwide. The late surge appeared to be tied to big buy programs that kicked in after encouraging comments from Houston hospital executives about the city's treatment capacity after the state's governor halted efforts to reopen. Meanwhile,
https://www.hellowoodlands.com/houston-hospitals-share-joint-statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-executive-order/Quote:
On Thursday, June 25, 2020, the following joint statement was shared from St. Luke's Health, Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System & Texas Children's Hospital regarding Houston hospital capacity and executive order.
CEOs across the Texas Medical Center have monitored the ongoing transmission of COVID-19 in our community and across the state since the earliest days of this pandemic. In response to the recent increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, we want to reassure the public that this pandemic is not eclipsing our capabilities. Our hospitals have the ICU capacity, staff and supplies to meet the healthcare needs of our community. In addition, Texas hospitals continue to reserve 15 percent of capacity for COVID-19 patients and medical care continues to be routinely provided in inpatient and outpatient settings without taxing the overall hospitalization capacity.
We realize that the letter issued by the Texas Medical Center yesterday afternoon caused unnecessary alarm. Our intent was to educate Houstonians and not alarm them about capacity, which is not an immediate concern.
This morning, the governor issued an executive order restricting elective surgeries across several Texas counties, including Harris County. We respect what the governor is doing to fight this terrible virus and we will continue to work with him and local officials to care for our community.
It is our hope that the executive order will only be in place for a short period of time, as it is critically important that we continue to meet the health needs of our community.
Each hospital system has prepared for months to address the anticipated needs of this pandemic and has surge plans in place to successfully manage its own capacity to continue treating COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. Additionally, our hospitals are working together to manage capacity levels and ensure the highest quality care for all who need it. We will continue to work closely with state leadership and public health experts to help maintain statewide visibility on acute capacity issues and other critical concerns.
While this pandemic is unprecedented, our hospital systems have learned a lot, very quickly, and our coordinated efforts have allowed us to nimbly respond to this fluid situation. As leaders, we can attest to the heft, might, devotion and compassion of our workforce in caring for those with COVID-19 and those who arrive at our doors seeking care for other urgent medical needs. We are ready to serve the community and will do so in the safest way and environment possible. Through enhanced testing efforts, strict screening procedures and dedicated units to separate potentially infectious patients from the general population, hospital care is safe, ready and available for those who need it.
As we continue to navigate this pandemic, the public plays an essential role in helping preserve hospital capacity. It is critical to wear a mask or face covering anytime you leave your home, practice appropriate social distancing by avoiding large crowds and gatherings, wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds, and avoid touching your face.
Responding to emergencies with precision is a hallmark of Texas hospitals. Our mission and responsibility is to provide the care our community needs. We must maintain a thoughtful balance between caring for those impacted by COVID-19 and addressing all other healthcare needs of our community, including critical surgeries and procedures. We stand ready and committed to providing you and your family with the health care you need.
I thought the same thing when I read that.ATL Bear said:Elective surgeries are the real moneymaker for hospital systems, so I'm sure they're not happy about the declaration. Suddenly, it's not really as bad as it was portrayed.Jacques Strap said:Quote:
Bloomberg Markets Live Blog: Stocks leaped into the green in the last hour of trading after fluctuating throughout the session as Covid-19 continues to spread nationwide. The late surge appeared to be tied to big buy programs that kicked in after encouraging comments from Houston hospital executives about the city's treatment capacity after the state's governor halted efforts to reopen. Meanwhile,
https://www.hellowoodlands.com/houston-hospitals-share-joint-statement-on-hospital-capacity-and-executive-order/Quote:
On Thursday, June 25, 2020, the following joint statement was shared from St. Luke's Health, Houston Methodist, Memorial Hermann Health System & Texas Children's Hospital regarding Houston hospital capacity and executive order.
CEOs across the Texas Medical Center have monitored the ongoing transmission of COVID-19 in our community and across the state since the earliest days of this pandemic. In response to the recent increase in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations, we want to reassure the public that this pandemic is not eclipsing our capabilities. Our hospitals have the ICU capacity, staff and supplies to meet the healthcare needs of our community. In addition, Texas hospitals continue to reserve 15 percent of capacity for COVID-19 patients and medical care continues to be routinely provided in inpatient and outpatient settings without taxing the overall hospitalization capacity.
We realize that the letter issued by the Texas Medical Center yesterday afternoon caused unnecessary alarm. Our intent was to educate Houstonians and not alarm them about capacity, which is not an immediate concern.
This morning, the governor issued an executive order restricting elective surgeries across several Texas counties, including Harris County. We respect what the governor is doing to fight this terrible virus and we will continue to work with him and local officials to care for our community.
It is our hope that the executive order will only be in place for a short period of time, as it is critically important that we continue to meet the health needs of our community.
Each hospital system has prepared for months to address the anticipated needs of this pandemic and has surge plans in place to successfully manage its own capacity to continue treating COVID-19 and non-COVID-19 patients. Additionally, our hospitals are working together to manage capacity levels and ensure the highest quality care for all who need it. We will continue to work closely with state leadership and public health experts to help maintain statewide visibility on acute capacity issues and other critical concerns.
While this pandemic is unprecedented, our hospital systems have learned a lot, very quickly, and our coordinated efforts have allowed us to nimbly respond to this fluid situation. As leaders, we can attest to the heft, might, devotion and compassion of our workforce in caring for those with COVID-19 and those who arrive at our doors seeking care for other urgent medical needs. We are ready to serve the community and will do so in the safest way and environment possible. Through enhanced testing efforts, strict screening procedures and dedicated units to separate potentially infectious patients from the general population, hospital care is safe, ready and available for those who need it.
As we continue to navigate this pandemic, the public plays an essential role in helping preserve hospital capacity. It is critical to wear a mask or face covering anytime you leave your home, practice appropriate social distancing by avoiding large crowds and gatherings, wash your hands frequently for at least 20 seconds, and avoid touching your face.
Responding to emergencies with precision is a hallmark of Texas hospitals. Our mission and responsibility is to provide the care our community needs. We must maintain a thoughtful balance between caring for those impacted by COVID-19 and addressing all other healthcare needs of our community, including critical surgeries and procedures. We stand ready and committed to providing you and your family with the health care you need.
Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)
Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.
Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.
Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.
Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.
79 new cases in McLennan county today as of time of posting.
Total active cases now 362..Fifteen in hospitals..PartyBear said:
79 new cases in McLennan county today as of time of posting.
65 of those cases were for people under the age of 50, including 11 teenagers and 25 in their 20s. 15 hospitalizations with 4 ventilator cases. Scott and White now using the Waco location for transfers out of Temple, as Bell County has worse problems.PartyBear said:
79 new cases in McLennan county today as of time of posting.
Not good.
That positive test rate number is the worst thing about the report.Jacques Strap said:
Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)
Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.
Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.
Jacques Strap said:
Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)
Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.
Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.
Another shut down is necessary.
Too many morons taking chances .
Because the mainstream media and "influencers" put us all in danger by telling people to go protest, riot, and loot.blackie said:Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
Baylor is probably going back online for the Fall at this rate.
Baylor is probably going back online for the Fall at this rate.
I find it hard to believe that the numbers in Waco and Bell County are climbing like they are based on protesters.Flaming Moderate said:Because the mainstream media and "influencers" put us all in danger by telling people to go protest, riot, and loot.blackie said:Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
Well.....because that is not the case.
My guess is that they wait until mid-to-late July to make that call. See if we can manage this spike.PartyBear said:
Baylor is probably going back online for the Fall at this rate.
I think the football season is toast though.
Fasting growing group of COVID infections is among those 18-39 in Dallas County.
That number caught my eye too.Booray said:That positive test rate number is the worst thing about the report.Jacques Strap said:
Texas Cases, Deaths Climb (5:10 p.m. NY)
Texas added 5,996 cases in the past 24 hours, a third consecutive day of record-breaking increases, according to state health department data. The 4.8% jump exceeded the 3.9% seven-day average and brought total inflections to 131,917.
Fatalities increased by 47 to 2,296, the grimmest one-day advance since May 15. The positive-test rate surged to 11.76%, the highest since April 16.
Coincidentally the demographic of rioters, looters, and protesters.cinque said:
Fasting growing group of COVID infections is among those 18-39 in Dallas County.
Do you want me to explain how epidemiology works?Booray said:I find it hard to believe that the numbers in Waco and Bell County are climbing like they are based on protesters.Flaming Moderate said:Because the mainstream media and "influencers" put us all in danger by telling people to go protest, riot, and loot.blackie said:Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
Unless you are an epidemiologist, no.Flaming Moderate said:Do you want me to explain how epidemiology works?Booray said:I find it hard to believe that the numbers in Waco and Bell County are climbing like they are based on protesters.Flaming Moderate said:Because the mainstream media and "influencers" put us all in danger by telling people to go protest, riot, and loot.blackie said:Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
What caught my eye...
If 10x is accurate that means 20 million in the US
Remember the early CA antibody tests suggested 40x which would be 80 million!
Most new cases are in young people many of them asymptomatic
If asymptomatic young people (who like to go out) can spread the virus then that's a lot of spreaders out there who don't even know they are spreaders. On the plus side asymptomatic won't need a hospital bed.
If 10x is accurate that means 20 million in the US
Remember the early CA antibody tests suggested 40x which would be 80 million!
Most new cases are in young people many of them asymptomatic
If asymptomatic young people (who like to go out) can spread the virus then that's a lot of spreaders out there who don't even know they are spreaders. On the plus side asymptomatic won't need a hospital bed.
Is it also the Bar going demographic?Flaming Moderate said:Coincidentally the demographic of rioters, looters, and protesters.cinque said:
Fasting growing group of COVID infections is among those 18-39 in Dallas County.
If you find one, she'll explain it to you.Booray said:Unless you are an epidemiologist, no.Flaming Moderate said:Do you want me to explain how epidemiology works?Booray said:I find it hard to believe that the numbers in Waco and Bell County are climbing like they are based on protesters.Flaming Moderate said:Because the mainstream media and "influencers" put us all in danger by telling people to go protest, riot, and loot.blackie said:Also, from what I have seen there is often a higher percentage of people wearing masks in the protests than what I have seen in businesses (if you exclude the employees who are required by their employer to wear a mask).quash said:Outdoor vs indoor is one big consideration.Flaming Moderate said:
Still waiting for someone to (with integrity) explain to me why protesting-rioting-looting will not spread covid but opening a business will.
Bottom line, anyone not wearing a mask is endangering others and in the long run, themselves. What is the point of debating which is more destructive to getting us through this. It is inane.
The more important question that you should be asking, if you are not wearing a mask, why not? Please don't give us that "freedom" argument. Do you really think the Founding Fathers would not be in favor of doing something as simple and innocent as wearing a mask to avoid putting their fellow citizens at risk?
This isn't about freedom or political statements, it is about doing what we can to reduce the damage this virus is doing to our health and our livelihoods. The majority of people visiting this site are probably sports fans. Do you want these upcoming sports, including Big XII football, to have even a snowball's chance to actually happen this year? Wear your mask.
No.cinque said:Is it also the Bar going demographic?Flaming Moderate said:Coincidentally the demographic of rioters, looters, and protesters.cinque said:
Fasting growing group of COVID infections is among those 18-39 in Dallas County.