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Thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Yep

Ken Paxton says Local Health Authorities cannot shutdown schools:

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200728/local-health-authorities-canrsquot-force-schools-to-shut-down-paxton-says?utm_source=web_push&utm_medium=referral

The law creating and empowering Local health Authorities, in my reading, really speaks to empowering them when an infection has been located. At that point , the law gives a local health director the power to close/quarantine a person, place or thing until the infection disappears. Closing down schools to prevent spread is more proactive than reactive and regardless of whether you think it is good policy, it seems to me to be outside of what the director is empowered to do.

But the Texas Administrative Code has a provision that specifically allows the closure of schools, public or private. No other business or gathering place is treated that way. The Administrative Code, however, is not a law; it is the agency's interpretation of how the law should be applied. Courts often accord that interpretation some or great deference.

Here, as loathe as I am to admit it, I agree with Paxton. The Code provision is an expansion of the law passed by the legislature, not an interpretation of it.

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You can't blame the politicians....when thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Spot on......and with some of the comments I have seen on various threads some of them frequent this board.

We had a local restaurant open in our town just recently. Management made masks optional for their employees (ignoring Abbott) and only one waiter was wearing a mask. No social distancing. Tables were as close together as they have been in the past. It is really stupid for management to take this line. What they are doing only prolongs this nightmare and pushes a situation that could cause them to be shutdown in the coming weeks. They are really going against their own long-term self interest.

I hate for anyone to get this terrible disease, but it is almost like some people deserve to get it.

Sorry, hit reply, not edit.

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
07 27 2020 ----
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 27
CA 21
TX 18

CORONAVIRUS DEATHS / POPULATION - TEXAS COUNTIES w/at least 20 deaths (COUNTY SEAT)

0.100% - Washington (Brenham)
0.064% - Cameron (Brownsville)
0.059% - Hale (Plainview)
0.057% - Walker (Huntsville)
0.052% - Nacogdoches (Nacogdoches)
0.043% - Starr (Rio Grande City)
0.039% - Maverick (Eagle Pass)
0.036% - Comal (New Braunfels)
0.034% - Angelina (Lufkin)
0.034% - Potter (Amarillo)
0.033% - Harrison (Marshall)
0.029% - Bowie (Boston)
0.028% - Hidalgo (Edinburg)
0.026% - El Paso (El Paso)
0.026% - Galveston (Galveston)
0.025% - Victoria (Victoria)
0.024% - Bexar (San Antonio)
0.024% - Liberty (Liberty)
0.024% - Webb (Laredo)
0.023% - Harris (Houston)
0.022% - Dallas (Dallas)
0.022% - Jefferson (Beaumont)
0.021% - Lubbock (Lubbock)
0.020% - Guadalupe (Seguin)
0.019% - Ector (Odessa)
0.018% - Brazos (Bryan)
0.018% - Ellis (Waxahachie)
0.018% - Nueces (Corpus Christi)
0.016% - Tarrant (Fort Worth)
0.016% - Travis (Austin)
0.015% - Fort Bend (Richmond)
0.014% - Brazoria (Angleton)
0.013% - Hays (San Marcos)
0.013% - Midland (Midland)
0.013% - Williamson (Georgetown)
0.012% - Johnson (Cleburne)
0.011% - McLennan (Waco)
0.010% - Montgomery (Conroe)
0.008% - Denton (Denton)
0.007% - Bell (Belton)
0.006% - Collin (McKinney)

CORONAVIRUS DEATHS / POPULATION - BY STATE

0.177% - New Jersey
0.166% - New York (NYC: 0.282%)
0.124% - Connecticut
0.122% - Massachusetts
0.095% - Rhode Island
0.081% - Louisiana
0.081% - Washington DC
0.064% - Michigan
0.060% - Illinois
0.059% - Delaware
0.057% - Maryland
0.056% - Pennsylvania
0.050% - Mississippi
0.045% - Arizona
0.043% - Indiana
0.033% - Georgia
0.031% - Colorado
0.030% - Alabama
0.030% - New Hampshire
0.029% - New Mexico
0.029% - South Carolina
0.028% - Minnesota
0.028% - Ohio
0.027% - Florida
0.026% - Iowa
0.024% - Nevada
0.024% - Virginia
0.021% - California
0.019% - Missouri
0.019% - Washington
0.017% - North Carolina
0.017% - Texas
0.016% - Kentucky
0.016% - Nebraska
0.015% - Wisconsin
0.014% - South Dakota
0.014% - Tennessee
0.013% - Arkansas
0.013% - North Dakota
0.013% - Oklahoma
0.011% - Kansas
0.009% - Maine
0.009% - Vermont
0.008% - Idaho
0.008% - Utah
0.007% - Oregon
0.007% - Puerto Rico
0.006% - West Virginia
0.004% - Montana
0.004% - Wyoming
0.003% - Alaska
0.002% - Hawaii

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Governor Abbott extends early voting and period for obtaining absentee voting by a week due to Corona. There is a decent leader in Abbott trying hard to get out. Probably will cost him re-election at the hands of the Dan Patricks, but still, good for him.

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I've been largely pleased with the job Abbott has done. There only two issues I have with his response are fast-tracking the reopening's phases before the federal guidelines recommended and drain his feet on the mask mandate. But he's shown quality leadership for the most part, particularly when compared to the president and several other southern governors.

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Southern governors? What about the governors with the 7 highest counts of Covid deaths in the North/West?

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I cut those who got hit before we had any reliable data on this virus some slack. I don't hold anyone accountable for being caught flat-footed by this virus. But those who continue to deny science as more data becomes available are a dangerous breed of stupid.

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I agree. But hard to take these leaders seriously when they allow and participate in these activities with mass gatherings.

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It's the virus we need to take seriously, not the politicians.

REPORTED CORONAVIRUS DEATHS / POPULATION - BY COUNTRY (50 countries with the most reported deaths) - reported is the key word

0.085% - Belgium
0.068% - United Kingdom
0.061% - Spain
0.058% - Italy
0.056% - Peru
0.056% - Sweden
0.048% - Chile
0.046% - France
0.046% - United States
0.041% - Brazil
0.036% - Ireland
0.036% - Netherlands
0.034% - Mexico
0.032% - Ecuador
0.024% - Armenia
0.024% - Canada
0.023% - Bolivia
0.023% - Switzerland
0.020% - Kyrgyzstan
0.019% - Iran
0.019% - Moldova
0.017% - Columbia
0.017% - Portugal
0.012% - Honduras
0.012% - Romania
0.012% - South Africa
0.011% - Germany
0.011% - Iraq
0.010% - Domincan Republic
0.010% - Guatemala
0.009% - Russia
0.008% - Saudi Arabia
0.007% - Argentina
0.007% - Turkey
0.005% - Egypt
0.004% - Kazakhstan
0.004% - Poland
0.004% - Ukraine
0.003% - Afghanistan
0.003% - Algeria
0.003% - Pakistan
0.003% - Panama
0.002% - Bangladesh
0.002% - India
0.002% - Indonesia
0.002% - Philippines
0.002% - Sudan
0.001% - Japan
<0.001% - China
<0.001% - Nigeria

I'm skeptical so removing tweet until I can investigate further

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Canada2017 said:

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You can't blame the politicians....when thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Spot on......and with some of the comments I have seen on various threads some of them frequent this board.

We had a local restaurant open in our town just recently. Management made masks optional for their employees (ignoring Abbott) and only one waiter was wearing a mask. No social distancing. Tables were as close together as they have been in the past. It is really stupid for management to take this line. What they are doing only prolongs this nightmare and pushes a situation that could cause them to be shutdown in the coming weeks. They are really going against their own long-term self interest.

I hate for anyone to get this terrible disease, but it is almost like some people deserve to get it.

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Again....our fate is in the hands of a relatively few geniuses who are attempting to develop a viable vaccine against this novel virus .

Because the vast majority of our people are too undisciplined to save themselves with even a minimal amount of common sense .

When I read about the Spanish Influenza of 1918 years ago.....I marveled at the stupidity of the people , the military, the politicians.

We are just as ignorant today......possibly worse .

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That is great, but how do you get a 75% decrease when neither of the two components measured dropped by 75%?

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That is great, but how do you get a 75% decrease when neither of the two components measured dropped by 75%?

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Not sure what dates she used and if it was 7 day average but she probably did something like this: She is commenting on the drop in Case Fatality Ratio

7 day avg. cases 4/15/2020 1,071
7 day avg. deaths 4/15/2020 42
CFR 3.92%

7 day avg. cases 7/26/2020 10,544
7 day avg. deaths 7/26/2020 125
CFR 1.19%

[(3.92% - 1.19%) / 3.92%] = 69.64% decrease in CFR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

edit - Can't type for $H|+ today! LOL

Jacques Strap said:

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Not sure what dates she used and if it was 7 day average but she probably did something like this: She is commenting on the drop in Case Fatality Ratio

7 day avg. cases 4/15/2020 1,071
7 day avg. deaths 4/15/2020 42
CFR 3.92%

7 day avg. cases 7/26/2020 10,544
7 day avg. deaths 7/26/2020 125
CFR 1.19%

[(3.92% - 1.19%) / 3.92%] = 69.64% decrease in CFR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

edit - Can't type for $H|+ today! LOL

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Sure but she would have to do the same thing to support "over 65 dropped by half" and "under 65 dropped by 71%." I wasn't a math major but if none of the subsets dropped by 75% it is impossible for the whole to have dropped by 75%. Perhaps "under 65" isn't everyone under 65?

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TexasScientist said:

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Governor Abbott extends early voting and period for obtaining absentee voting by a week due to Corona. There is a decent leader in Abbott trying hard to get out. Probably will cost him re-election at the hands of the Dan Patricks, but still, good for him.

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I think you're right. Dan Patrick is a key reason Republicans will likely loose control of the state house, and consequently redistricting of U.S. House seats from Texas.

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Repubs can lose the House. Redistricting will be decided in federal court.

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The House draws congressional districts. If Democrats control the House, they'll control the lines, even with court intervention.

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Texas Senate has a say, too.

A bill probably won't be passed and signed by the governor.

I think it will be settled in fed court

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Yeah. I should have said legislature. It always ends up in federal court on some theory, but the outcome in court won't likely go well. The House and Senate may not be able to pass anything.

They won't

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Jacques Strap said:

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That is great, but how do you get a 75% decrease when neither of the two components measured dropped by 75%?

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Not sure what dates she used and if it was 7 day average but she probably did something like this: She is commenting on the drop in Case Fatality Ratio

7 day avg. cases 4/15/2020 1,071
7 day avg. deaths 4/15/2020 42
CFR 3.92%

7 day avg. cases 7/26/2020 10,544
7 day avg. deaths 7/26/2020 125
CFR 1.19%

[(3.92% - 1.19%) / 3.92%] = 69.64% decrease in CFR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

edit - Can't type for $H|+ today! LOL

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Sure but she would have to do the same thing to support "over 65 dropped by half" and "under 65 dropped by 71%." I wasn't a math major but if none of the subsets dropped by 75% it is impossible for the whole to have dropped by 75%. Perhaps "under 65" isn't everyone under 65?

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Simpsons paradox.

Doc Holliday said:

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Booray said:

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Booray said:

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Jacques Strap said:

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That is great, but how do you get a 75% decrease when neither of the two components measured dropped by 75%?

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Not sure what dates she used and if it was 7 day average but she probably did something like this: She is commenting on the drop in Case Fatality Ratio

7 day avg. cases 4/15/2020 1,071
7 day avg. deaths 4/15/2020 42
CFR 3.92%

7 day avg. cases 7/26/2020 10,544
7 day avg. deaths 7/26/2020 125
CFR 1.19%

[(3.92% - 1.19%) / 3.92%] = 69.64% decrease in CFR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

edit - Can't type for $H|+ today! LOL

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Sure but she would have to do the same thing to support "over 65 dropped by half" and "under 65 dropped by 71%." I wasn't a math major but if none of the subsets dropped by 75% it is impossible for the whole to have dropped by 75%. Perhaps "under 65" isn't everyone under 65?

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Simpsons paradox.

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Would that be the Al-doh-rithm formula?

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%
July 28 Total 1,387 | COVID 650 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
---- 07 29 2020 ----
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 28
CA 22
TX 20

Good news for AZ

Oldbear83 said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Not sure what dates she used and if it was 7 day average but she probably did something like this: She is commenting on the drop in Case Fatality Ratio

7 day avg. cases 4/15/2020 1,071
7 day avg. deaths 4/15/2020 42
CFR 3.92%

7 day avg. cases 7/26/2020 10,544
7 day avg. deaths 7/26/2020 125
CFR 1.19%

[(3.92% - 1.19%) / 3.92%] = 69.64% decrease in CFR

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/florida-coronavirus-cases.html

edit - Can't type for $H|+ today! LOL

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Sure but she would have to do the same thing to support "over 65 dropped by half" and "under 65 dropped by 71%." I wasn't a math major but if none of the subsets dropped by 75% it is impossible for the whole to have dropped by 75%. Perhaps "under 65" isn't everyone under 65?

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Would that be the Al-doh-rithm formula?

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Homer!

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The wife day before yesterday was called and told that she tested positive on the Covid-19 antibodies test after donating blood at the South Texas Blood Bank. Her antibodies were at an "extremely high" level and they want her to donate plasma. She never had any symptoms. My son and I both also gave blood and tested negative. If this disease is so easily spread, I'm not sure how this can be explained. (The wife and I sleep in the same bed every night.)

One point of interest is that she is Blood Type B- and my boy and I are O+. Have read that type O blood is less susceptible to the virus. Maybe there is something to that.

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Heard of a lot of tests have produced false negatives or false positives. Not quite the thing we want to hear about, but with the number being done and the rapidity to get them out, I can certainly see where some things have fallen through the holes.

Question.....has there been any evidence to know for certain that the antibodies being looked for only happen if the person had the virus? Could they have been from something else, perhaps way back in the past?

RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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The wife day before yesterday was called and told that she tested positive on the Covid-19 antibodies test after donating blood at the South Texas Blood Bank. Her antibodies were at an "extremely high" level and they want her to donate plasma. She never had any symptoms. My son and I both also gave blood and tested negative. If this disease is so easily spread, I'm not sure how this can be explained. (The wife and I sleep in the same bed every night.)

One point of interest is that she is Blood Type B- and my boy and I are O+. Have read that type O blood is less susceptible to the virus. Maybe there is something to that.

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I have O.....good Canadian stock .

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The wife day before yesterday was called and told that she tested positive on the Covid-19 antibodies test after donating blood at the South Texas Blood Bank. Her antibodies were at an "extremely high" level and they want her to donate plasma. She never had any symptoms. My son and I both also gave blood and tested negative. If this disease is so easily spread, I'm not sure how this can be explained. (The wife and I sleep in the same bed every night.)

One point of interest is that she is Blood Type B- and my boy and I are O+. Have read that type O blood is less susceptible to the virus. Maybe there is something to that.

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Heard of a lot of tests have produced false negatives or false positives. Not quite the thing we want to hear about, but with the number being done and the rapidity to get them out, I can certainly see where some things have fallen through the holes.

Question.....has there been any evidence to know for certain that the antibodies being looked for only happen if the person had the virus? Could they have been from something else, perhaps way back in the past?

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The wife day before yesterday was called and told that she tested positive on the Covid-19 antibodies test after donating blood at the South Texas Blood Bank. Her antibodies were at an "extremely high" level and they want her to donate plasma. She never had any symptoms. My son and I both also gave blood and tested negative. If this disease is so easily spread, I'm not sure how this can be explained. (The wife and I sleep in the same bed every night.)

One point of interest is that she is Blood Type B- and my boy and I are O+. Have read that type O blood is less susceptible to the virus. Maybe there is something to that.

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Question.....has there been any evidence to know for certain that the antibodies being looked for only happen if the person had the virus? Could they have been from something else, perhaps way back in the past?

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I've been wondered the same

I've never heard of SO MANY people testing positive for a killer disease but showing no symptoms in 80%?

Seems fishy, like positives are being inflated

Interesting chart

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?country=~USA

Jacques Strap said:

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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?country=~USA

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Chart of an ongoing nightmare.......and people still are partying around .

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%
July 28 Total 1,387 | COVID 650 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 29 Total 1,426 | COVID 625 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.4% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
---- 07 29 2020 ----
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 28
CA 22
TX 20

Daily confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths, United States
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-25..&country=~USA

blackie said:

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Canada2017 said:

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You can't blame the politicians....when thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Spot on......and with some of the comments I have seen on various threads some of them frequent this board.

We had a local restaurant open in our town just recently. Management made masks optional for their employees (ignoring Abbott) and only one waiter was wearing a mask. No social distancing. Tables were as close together as they have been in the past. It is really stupid for management to take this line. What they are doing only prolongs this nightmare and pushes a situation that could cause them to be shutdown in the coming weeks. They are really going against their own long-term self interest.

I hate for anyone to get this terrible disease, but it is almost like some people deserve to get it.

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right there with ya on this, Mr. Canada! Well said

J.R. said:

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blackie said:

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Canada2017 said:

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You can't blame the politicians....when thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Spot on......and with some of the comments I have seen on various threads some of them frequent this board.

We had a local restaurant open in our town just recently. Management made masks optional for their employees (ignoring Abbott) and only one waiter was wearing a mask. No social distancing. Tables were as close together as they have been in the past. It is really stupid for management to take this line. What they are doing only prolongs this nightmare and pushes a situation that could cause them to be shutdown in the coming weeks. They are really going against their own long-term self interest.

I hate for anyone to get this terrible disease, but it is almost like some people deserve to get it.

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right there with ya on this, Mr. Canada! Well said

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Politics aside.....suspect you and I have a lot in common .

Canada2017 said:

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J.R. said:

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blackie said:

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Canada2017 said:

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You can't blame the politicians....when thousands of morons STILL crowd into restaurants, bars and health clubs .

Still refuse to social distance or wear masks .

Still fly in airplanes without quarantining for 2 weeks prior ....knowing damn well they could potentially infect half the people on board .

We are a stupid, selfish , self destructive species .

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Spot on......and with some of the comments I have seen on various threads some of them frequent this board.

We had a local restaurant open in our town just recently. Management made masks optional for their employees (ignoring Abbott) and only one waiter was wearing a mask. No social distancing. Tables were as close together as they have been in the past. It is really stupid for management to take this line. What they are doing only prolongs this nightmare and pushes a situation that could cause them to be shutdown in the coming weeks. They are really going against their own long-term self interest.

I hate for anyone to get this terrible disease, but it is almost like some people deserve to get it.

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right there with ya on this, Mr. Canada! Well said

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Politics aside.....suspect you and I have a lot in common .

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agreed