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Once you decide the ends justify the means the moral barrier is gone.

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That, in a nutshell, explains the Obama Administration.

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Unlike in the current administration, many policies were explained on moral grounds. The biggest failures were on follow through meaning even the few times the ends were justified the means were insufficient. Thinking mainly of a foreign policy based on American values, as promised in his First Inaugural.

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Yet again, quash proves he is a Progressive, despite his many protests.

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My bad, I thought you were looking for a substantive discussion. Shoulda known better.

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I'm always looking for a substantive discussion. I'm not looking to read posts from Progressives about how much they hate Trump.

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quash said:

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Once you decide the ends justify the means the moral barrier is gone.

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That, in a nutshell, explains the Obama Administration.

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Unlike in the current administration, many policies were explained on moral grounds. The biggest failures were on follow through meaning even the few times the ends were justified the means were insufficient. Thinking mainly of a foreign policy based on American values, as promised in his First Inaugural.

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Yet again, quash proves he is a Progressive, despite his many protests.

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My bad, I thought you were looking for a substantive discussion. Shoulda known better.

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I'm always looking for a substantive discussion. I'm not looking to read posts from Progressives about how much they hate Trump.

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Gonna be tough, you see those posts everywhere.

Even where they are not.

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Once you decide the ends justify the means the moral barrier is gone.

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That, in a nutshell, explains the Obama Administration.

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Unlike in the current administration, many policies were explained on moral grounds. The biggest failures were on follow through meaning even the few times the ends were justified the means were insufficient. Thinking mainly of a foreign policy based on American values, as promised in his First Inaugural.

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Yet again, quash proves he is a Progressive, despite his many protests.

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My bad, I thought you were looking for a substantive discussion. Shoulda known better.

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I'm always looking for a substantive discussion. I'm not looking to read posts from Progressives about how much they hate Trump.

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Gonna be tough, you see those posts everywhere.

Even where they are not.

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Ahhhh, quash, like all hardened Progressives you claim anything which serves your politics, even if untrue, and deny anything which does not help your politics, even when true.

Vanity Fair article provides details on a plan hatched by Jared which would have established a nationwide testing policy. It appears the plan was abandoned in favor of a political calculation that saw blue states as big virus hotspots that would make Democratic governors look bad.

Look for it often and pass on to my wife who then shares it with co-workers to calm their fears. Thank you!

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Vanity Fair article provides details on a plan hatched by Jared which would have established a nationwide testing policy. It appears the plan was abandoned in favor of a political calculation that saw blue states as big virus hotspots that would make Democratic governors look bad.

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You actually read Vanity Fair? Isn't that sweet!

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Vanity Fair article provides details on a plan hatched by Jared which would have established a nationwide testing policy. It appears the plan was abandoned in favor of a political calculation that saw blue states as big virus hotspots that would make Democratic governors look bad.

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You actually read Vanity Fair? Isn't that sweet!

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Yeah, I read. Sue me.

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What have Dems done since taking over in 2018 besides encouraging Americans to destroy their inner cities & wasting taxpayer money on Orange Man bad?

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Well to be fair, the dems....

- Got $25 million dollars for the kenndy center
- They made christine blasey-ford rich and gave her some cool info for a novel. The fictional piece of work still has some plot holes, but I have confidence she'll be able to fill those in
- They helped stormy daniels revive her dying career as a stripper
- They all bought matching Kente cloth
- They killed Epstein

cinque said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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cinque said:

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Vanity Fair article provides details on a plan hatched by Jared which would have established a nationwide testing policy. It appears the plan was abandoned in favor of a political calculation that saw blue states as big virus hotspots that would make Democratic governors look bad.

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You actually read Vanity Fair? Isn't that sweet!

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Yeah, I read. Sue me.

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Just admit it; you only look at the pictures.

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What have Dems done since taking over in 2018 besides encouraging Americans to destroy their inner cities & wasting taxpayer money on Orange Man bad?

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Well to be fair, the dems....

- Got $25 million dollars for the kenndy center
- They made christine blasey-ford rich and gave her some cool info for a novel. The fictional piece of work still has some plot holes, but I have confidence she'll be able to fill those in
- They helped stormy daniels revive her dying career as a stripper
- They all bought matching Kente cloth
- They killed Epstein

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I thought Trump resurrected Stormy's career.

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Why won't people follow mitigation protocols? I just don't understand it.

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on this we can agree

Gruvin said:

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cinque said:

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Why won't people follow mitigation protocols? I just don't understand it.

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on this we can agree

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Yes, we do agree on this

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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quash said:

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Once you decide the ends justify the means the moral barrier is gone.

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That, in a nutshell, explains the Obama Administration.

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Unlike in the current administration, many policies were explained on moral grounds. The biggest failures were on follow through meaning even the few times the ends were justified the means were insufficient. Thinking mainly of a foreign policy based on American values, as promised in his First Inaugural.

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Yet again, quash proves he is a Progressive, despite his many protests.

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My bad, I thought you were looking for a substantive discussion. Shoulda known better.

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I'm always looking for a substantive discussion. I'm not looking to read posts from Progressives about how much they hate Trump.

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Gonna be tough, you see those posts everywhere.

Even where they are not.

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Ahhhh, quash, like all hardened Progressives you claim anything which serves your politics, even if untrue, and deny anything which does not help your politics, even when true.

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Based on this criteria there are a few Trumpsters that post in this forum that probably should be classified as a "hardened Progressive". Who would have known. I guess those are the ones I have on ignore. Now I know why.

Seriously, a lot of politicians from both sides of the aisle (perhaps even most) and their lemmings would fall into your definition above.

RIP.

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%
July 28 Total 1,387 | COVID 650 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 29 Total 1,426 | COVID 625 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.4% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 30 Total 1,435 | COVID 639 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.5%
July 31 Total 1,388 | COVID 632 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.3% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.5%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
-- 07 31 2020 --
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 31
CA 23
TX 22

Daily confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths, United States
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-25..&country=~USA

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102807/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-state/

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Why won't people follow mitigation protocols? I just don't understand it.

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on this we can agree

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Visited with an ICU Emergency Room Nurse from dallas on vacation here yesterday

She said COVID is nothing but a political weapon of the left

Thanks but I don't need anyone to tell me what to wear. Don't need you to take care of me

You can do what you want with you

She said medical community is doing what they've always done

2000 mg vitamin C/day and lots of water! Many on HCQ and zinc and add Z pack IF get COVID

COVID = political weapon of Marxist leftists

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Why won't people follow mitigation protocols? I just don't understand it.

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on this we can agree

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Visited with an ICU Emergency Room Nurse from dallas on vacation here yesterday

She said COVID is nothing but a political weapon of the left

Thanks but I don't need anyone to tell me what to wear. Don't need you to take care of me

You can do what you want with you

She said medical community is doing what they've always done

2000 mg vitamin C/day and lots of water! Many on HCQ and zinc and add Z pack IF get COVID

COVID = political weapon of Marxist leftists

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It is amazing how you know or meet every doctor in the country who believes this is overblown. Perhaps they helped you predict the 450 deaths that would result from the virus.

Keep up the Marxist narrative and collect nickels per post Cinque

Keep leading your worthless life!

Florda_mike said:

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Keep up the Marxist narrative and collect nickels per post Cinque

Keep leading your worthless life!

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450

July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%
July 28 Total 1,387 | COVID 650 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 29 Total 1,426 | COVID 625 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.4% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 30 Total 1,435 | COVID 639 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.5%
July 31 Total 1,388 | COVID 632 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.3% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.9%
AUG. 1 Total 1,330 | COVID 617 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.3% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -5.0%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
-- 07 31 2020 --
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 31
CA 23
TX 22

Daily confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths, United States
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-25..&country=~USA

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102807/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-state/

Martin Kulldorff
Professor Harvard Medical School. Disease surveillance methods. Infectious disease outbreaks.

He nailed it in APRIL.

It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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This would explain a negative I've had on masks

The areas on each side of nose are open allowing for a jet stream wind tunnel of what you call "aerosol droplets" to be inhaled

I think masks will eventually be seen to have done more harm than good as they seem germ/bacteria traps too

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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This would explain a negative I've had on masks

The areas on each side of nose are open allowing for a jet stream wind tunnel of what you call "aerosol droplets" to be inhaled

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Yes, and exhaled as well. Infected people still send droplets into the air.

Yeah I added that above

ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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Yes, but were any hospitalized?

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ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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Yes, but were any hospitalized?

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Did they infect older adult family members when they got home from school, and were any of them hospitalized?

Russell Gym said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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Yes, but were any hospitalized?

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Did they infect older adult family members when they got home from school, and were any of them hospitalized?

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The now-familiar sound of goal posts being moved shows up yet again.

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ATL Bear said:

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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Yes, but were any hospitalized?

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Did they infect older adult family members when they got home from school, and were any of them hospitalized?

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Look, there will be a surge of new cases when kids go back to school. It will happen.
There will be a surge of cases among the parents and grandparents of kids who go back to school.
There will be a surge of cases among teachers.
Consequently, there will be an increased number of hospitalizations.

We flattened the curve to preserve some capacity in hospitals. At this point, they're not being overwhelmed (except maybe the Rio Grande Valley).

Kids need to be in school. If you don't feel safe sending your child to school, don't do it.

As of Aug. 2 TMC's Phase 1 (non-pandemic configurations) is at 100%, and TMC is not into Phase 2 plans for ICU.


July 4 Total 1,308 | COVID 568 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 5 Total 1,307 | COVID 589 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.3%
July 6 Total 1,362 | COVID 600 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 4.0%
July 7 Total 1,364 | COVID 615 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.7%
July 8 Total 1,394 | COVID 626 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.3%
July 9 Total 1,394 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.2%
July 10 Total 1,420 | COVID 651 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 3.0%
July 11 Total 1,368 | COVID 646 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.3%
July 12 Total 1,365 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 2.0%
July 13 Total 1,352 | COVID 674 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.9%
July 14 Total 1.359 | COVID 676 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.5%
July 15 Total 1.400 | COVID 678 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.3%
July 16 Total 1.400 | COVID 689 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 17 Total 1.381 | COVID 700 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 1.0%
July 18 Total 1.345 | COVID 667 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.8%
July 19 Total 1.361 | COVID 664 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 20 Total 1.347 | COVID 686 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.0%
July 21 Total 1.386 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.3%
July 22 Total 1.431 | COVID 716 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.6%
July 23 Total 1.456 | COVID 714 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -0.4%
July 24 Total 1.422 | COVID 681 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 25 Total 1.416 | COVID 691 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -1.5%
July 26 Total 1.408 | COVID 682 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.5%
July 27 Total 1,373 | COVID 677 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU 0.1% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -2.8%
July 28 Total 1,387 | COVID 650 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -0.5% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 29 Total 1,426 | COVID 625 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.4% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.0%
July 30 Total 1,435 | COVID 639 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.7% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.5%
July 31 Total 1,388 | COVID 632 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.3% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.9%
AUG. 1 Total 1,330 | COVID 617 | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -1.3% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -5.0%
AUG. 2 Total 1,324 | COVID 569| 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate for ICU -2.0% | 7 Day Avg. Growth Rate COVID hosp admits -3.8%

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-updates/

Houston Methodist "COVID-19 Cases by Day". Click scroll to 2nd chart.
https://www.houstonmethodist.org/-/media/pdf/for-patients/Coronavirus/covid-19-stats.ashx

Death rates from coronavirus (COVID-19) in the United States (per 100,000 people)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
-- 08 02 2020 --
NJ 178
NY 168
FL 33
CA 24
TX 24

Daily confirmed COVID-19 cases and deaths, United States
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-cases-deaths?time=2020-01-25..&country=~USA

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1102807/coronavirus-covid19-cases-number-us-americans-by-state/

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It's early, but it looks like Japan is in an early stage of a spike. Interesting to watch as they are avid maskers. I posted in the premium group about how I'm seeing doctors and scientists theorize that the virus is possibly becoming aerosolized. Instead of heavier saliva and mucus drops that we socially distance for with a 3-6 foot range, aerosol droplets are much smaller and lighter, stay in the air longer, get circulated wider and can penetrate masks. The positive is that they carry much smaller amounts of virus, and thus might reflect why case volume and case severity are decoupling (one going up rapidly but the other not following suit).

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Mainland S. Korea schools reopened live classes. One middle school in Seoul had 138 cases.

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Hospitalization numbers from the middle school?

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Students with coronavirus.

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Yes, but were any hospitalized?

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Did they infect older adult family members when they got home from school, and were any of them hospitalized?

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The now-familiar sound of goal posts being moved shows up yet again.

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It's a much longer field goal attempt for higher risk groups.