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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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You can't seriously be comparing Biden's mental acuity to Trump's. Trump can't speak in complete sentences, has an extremely limited and repetitive vocabulary, is incoherent, has limited comprehension, and reads at a grade school level. I agree Biden is not too sharp, but Biden run's circles around Trump.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to be joking!! Biden struggles to remember where he is half the time and what it is he's even campaigning for! Comparing his current mental acuity to Trump's is like comparing a tee baller to a Major League Baseball player. Biden going up against Trump in debates is going to be worse than the Christians going up against the lions.

If you were actually being serious with that post, that is about as nonsensical and uninformed as anything I've ever read on this board and that is going some.

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Biden can understand and discuss issues coherently. Trump can't begin to grasp an issue, much less discuss it coherently - mainly because he doesn't possess the mental acuity, and he has a psychological disorder that prevents him. Trump's deficiencies are made manifest and amplified in his failure to adequately grasp, comprehend, and address this health crisis.

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You lost all objectivity in regards to the POTUS over a year ago . That's fine...it's the internet ....one can type whatever they want .

However over the last few months your comments have become increasingly repetitive and toxic .

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Calling it as I see it.

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" Calling it as I see it " over and over with the same subjective accusations is not evidence, or data.

Hardly the methodology of a legitimate scientist .

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I'm not aware of any scientific methodology being undertaken anywhere on this board. It is all opinion. Some based upon subjectivity, and a lot based upon fiction mixed with facts. Very little based upon the evidence of objective reality. Would you agree with my subjective opinion that Pence has been a stabilizing influence on and impulsive Trump?

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No

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I think you may be right. No one has a stabilizing influence on Trump.

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Trump has as many 'stabilizing influences' as you or I do.

I said 'No'....because yours was an obviously slanted question .

Again...not the behavior of a legitimate scientist looking to have an honest conversation.

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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You can't seriously be comparing Biden's mental acuity to Trump's. Trump can't speak in complete sentences, has an extremely limited and repetitive vocabulary, is incoherent, has limited comprehension, and reads at a grade school level. I agree Biden is not too sharp, but Biden run's circles around Trump.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to be joking!! Biden struggles to remember where he is half the time and what it is he's even campaigning for! Comparing his current mental acuity to Trump's is like comparing a tee baller to a Major League Baseball player. Biden going up against Trump in debates is going to be worse than the Christians going up against the lions.

If you were actually being serious with that post, that is about as nonsensical and uninformed as anything I've ever read on this board and that is going some.

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Biden can understand and discuss issues coherently. Trump can't begin to grasp an issue, much less discuss it coherently - mainly because he doesn't possess the mental acuity, and he has a psychological disorder that prevents him. Trump's deficiencies are made manifest and amplified in his failure to adequately grasp, comprehend, and address this health crisis.

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You lost all objectivity in regards to the POTUS over a year ago . That's fine...it's the internet ....one can type whatever they want .

However over the last few months your comments have become increasingly repetitive and toxic .

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Calling it as I see it.

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" Calling it as I see it " over and over with the same subjective accusations is not evidence, or data.

Hardly the methodology of a legitimate scientist .

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I'm not aware of any scientific methodology being undertaken anywhere on this board. It is all opinion. Some based upon subjectivity, and a lot based upon fiction mixed with facts. Very little based upon the evidence of objective reality. Would you agree with my subjective opinion that Pence has been a stabilizing influence on and impulsive Trump?

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No

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I think you may be right. No one has a stabilizing influence on Trump.

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Trump has as many 'stabilizing influences' as you or I do.

I said 'No'....because yours was an obviously slanted question .

Again...not the behavior of a legitimate scientist looking to have an honest conversation.

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I've been honest in everything I've posted. Find someone who is willing for an honest conversation without adding ad hominem attacks at the other participants, and I'm on board.

Well...that is your opinion .

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Well...that is your opinion .

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Opinion and intent.

OB :"You see the world through spite-colored glasses, then." Another made up narrative about TS Trump lies and TS responds with facts. That's not spite, that's truth

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TexasScientist said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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You can't seriously be comparing Biden's mental acuity to Trump's. Trump can't speak in complete sentences, has an extremely limited and repetitive vocabulary, is incoherent, has limited comprehension, and reads at a grade school level. I agree Biden is not too sharp, but Biden run's circles around Trump.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to be joking!! Biden struggles to remember where he is half the time and what it is he's even campaigning for! Comparing his current mental acuity to Trump's is like comparing a tee baller to a Major League Baseball player. Biden going up against Trump in debates is going to be worse than the Christians going up against the lions.

If you were actually being serious with that post, that is about as nonsensical and uninformed as anything I've ever read on this board and that is going some.

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Biden can understand and discuss issues coherently. Trump can't begin to grasp an issue, much less discuss it coherently - mainly because he doesn't possess the mental acuity, and he has a psychological disorder that prevents him. Trump's deficiencies are made manifest and amplified in his failure to adequately grasp, comprehend, and address this health crisis.

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You lost all objectivity in regards to the POTUS over a year ago . That's fine...it's the internet ....one can type whatever they want .

However over the last few months your comments have become increasingly repetitive and toxic .

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Calling it as I see it.

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Actually, you're calling it as you believe it. Big difference

TexasScientist said:

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Canada2017 said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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You can't seriously be comparing Biden's mental acuity to Trump's. Trump can't speak in complete sentences, has an extremely limited and repetitive vocabulary, is incoherent, has limited comprehension, and reads at a grade school level. I agree Biden is not too sharp, but Biden run's circles around Trump.

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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have to be joking!! Biden struggles to remember where he is half the time and what it is he's even campaigning for! Comparing his current mental acuity to Trump's is like comparing a tee baller to a Major League Baseball player. Biden going up against Trump in debates is going to be worse than the Christians going up against the lions.

If you were actually being serious with that post, that is about as nonsensical and uninformed as anything I've ever read on this board and that is going some.

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Biden can understand and discuss issues coherently. Trump can't begin to grasp an issue, much less discuss it coherently - mainly because he doesn't possess the mental acuity, and he has a psychological disorder that prevents him. Trump's deficiencies are made manifest and amplified in his failure to adequately grasp, comprehend, and address this health crisis.

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You lost all objectivity in regards to the POTUS over a year ago . That's fine...it's the internet ....one can type whatever they want .

However over the last few months your comments have become increasingly repetitive and toxic .

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Calling it as I see it.

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" Calling it as I see it " over and over with the same subjective accusations is not evidence, or data.

Hardly the methodology of a legitimate scientist .

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I'm not aware of any scientific methodology being undertaken anywhere on this board. It is all opinion. Some based upon subjectivity, and a lot based upon fiction mixed with facts. Very little based upon the evidence of objective reality. Would you agree with my subjective opinion that Pence has been a stabilizing influence on and impulsive Trump?

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No

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I think you may be right. No one has a stabilizing influence on Trump.

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Trump has as many 'stabilizing influences' as you or I do.

I said 'No'....because yours was an obviously slanted question .

Again...not the behavior of a legitimate scientist looking to have an honest conversation.

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I've been honest in everything I've posted. Find someone who is willing for an honest conversation without adding ad hominem attacks at the other participants, and I'm on board.

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Canada only knows ad hominen attacks, name calling, ageism, He only assertions but no support or facts

Stay safe, Waco and TS

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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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Trump had a chance to really lead. Instead he's been dragged kicking and screaming into reality, and we're not sure he's all the way there yet. He's saying and doing things daily that will come back to haunt him in November.

Well said Sam.

Jesus Christ, this guy is a psychopath, bragging about ratings during a Pandemic? people are scared, of course they are watching you you Moron!

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Johnny Bear said:

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Porteroso said:

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Johnny Bear said:

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Just like virtually everything else, my first question for the TDS crowd that would crucify Trump if he personally cured cancer (because of the impact on the oncology industry) is....do you seriously think Hillary would've done a better job?? As far as this particular situation goes, for starters we know good and well she would not have instituted the travel ban from China early on which would've led to who knows how many more cases and how many more deaths to date. And that's just one of many aspects that would've tragically different.

But anyway, you haters keep it up. It's going to be fun to continue to watch your heads explode through at least 2024.

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Through at least 2024? Are you wishing Trump to disband the government, renounce the Constitution, and try for a dictatorship? lol. He will lose in the next election, no matter who runs.

Watching your head explode when a very bad candidate, on the brink of the nursing home, clearly with dementia, beats him soundly, will be quite fun.

To answer your post seriously, my problem with him is not really what he has done. He has done a few terrible things, but generally things were going pretty well, and this virus is just not his fault. He did lie about it a bunch of times, but who even listens to him anymore?

My problem is with what he says. He is divisive, which goes against his oath of office. His only uniting moments are basically the state of the union addresses, and please, someone pay that speech writer. It's the only break we get from us v them. Only for Trump, it's never us. He only cares about himself. We're just lucky that our narcissistic President is a businessman, because business booming is in his best interests. His racism, and anti-American rhetoric leads me to believe he's not a good person, and call me old fashioned, but I think whoever is President should be someone kids could look up to. Biden is 10x the man Trump is, and I don't really like him at all. The bar is truly that low.

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Auditioning to be a "strategist" on either MSNBC or CNN, maybe??

You are proof that TDS can also lead to insanity. So you really believe Trump is going to lose to a dementia stricken old man who can't string together 2 coherent sentences and should be residing in an assisted living facility or a committed Marxist that respects the old Soviet Union more than he respects his own country? Seriously? Even with all of the low information, stupid voters out there (and there are way too many of them) combined with the confirmed haters like you, trust me - ain't happening. I just hope Don Jr. runs in 2024 so I can have fun watching you guys cry all over again at that point.

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Trump had a chance to really lead. Instead he's been dragged kicking and screaming into reality, and we're not sure he's all the way there yet. He's saying and doing things daily that will come back to haunt him in November.

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Exactly what I've been saying. I wish this was not where we finally find some common ground.

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Jesus Christ, this guy is a psychopath, bragging about ratings during a Pandemic? people are scared, of course they are watching you you Moron!

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I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

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Jesus Christ, this guy is a psychopath, bragging about ratings during a Pandemic? people are scared, of course they are watching you you Moron!

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I'm so sorry this is happening to you.

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Of course he's focused on his rise in ratings while deaths rise. He's simply manifesting the symptoms of a malignant narcissist.

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Jesus Christ, this guy is a psychopath, bragging about ratings during a Pandemic? people are scared, of course they are watching you you Moron!

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This moron is completely out of touch. How he thought it made sense to tweet that out, I can't comprehend. Such a petty, insecure little child. Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.

I see a lot of hate from some truly malicious people here.

Deal with your own sins.

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I see a lot of hate from some truly malicious people here.

Deal with your own sins.

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Such a completely hollow remark. Of course, there is no substantive remark one could make to defend him in this instance. Thousands of people are dying around the country, and the president is worried about his TV ratings while engaging in twitter name-calling to insult our state governors.

Trump should be concerned about the death ratings he's going to earn.

It is possible to despise the person yet approve of most of the accomplishments.

You remain in malicious denial.

Common, yet sad.

So easy to hate someone, yet ignore your own evil.

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I see a lot of hate from some truly malicious people here.

Deal with your own sins.

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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
The idea is Trump is a moron. Discuss that notion instead of our supposed "hate."
45 is moron. Discuss

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It is possible to despise the person yet approve of most of the accomplishments.

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I do not approve any of his accomplishments. Name one. Please

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It is possible to despise the person yet approve of most of the accomplishments.

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I do not approve any of his accomplishments. Name one. Please

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Let's discuss cognitive dissonance. It is not that you do not approve of his accomplishments, whatever they may be, it is that you cannot approve of any accomplishments he may have because you have decided to hate him so vociferously that the cognitive dissonance would be too great for you to handle if you were confronted with an accomplishment you did approve.

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You remain in malicious denial.

Common, yet sad.

So easy to hate someone, yet ignore your own evil.

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You're offering up a false dichotomy by talking about things you know nothing about; the fact is that I never ignore my own sin, and work every damn day of my life to better myself. But you, knowing nothing about what you're talking about, like to make pronouncements as if you have a clue, filling the space created by your lack of knowledge with "talking out your ass" misdirection. Common, yet sad.

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

Drove my Home Depot on the way to my locked office this morning, looked like Black Friday at 9:00am this morning. Humans are social beings, all the warnings and shelter in place and cautionary tales are not stopping us from getting out. I drove by the dog park this weekend, it was loaded. This all happening in a shelter in place community. Drove by Krogers, by Tom Thumb, packed. WE are spreading this, not intentionally, but our society is incapable of just staying put, unless by martial law.

Until people stop lauding or blaming a politician about this, nothing will change, they/politicians can't do this. Folks have to shut it down, and they aren't, even when told to. Sure they aren't working, but they are filling the stores that are open. This simply will not stop the spread.

As I have said from the beginning, this virus will advance until 1) it runs through the entire exposed population and those that can get it do get it or 2) It mutates into a much less harmful virus and basically disappears, that's how viruses work, it's how they always work and how it will continue. WE can slow it, we won't stop it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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China has about 5 times the # of people in the U.S. and we've already exceeded their number of deaths. How come?

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bearassnekkid said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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China has about 5 times the # of people in the U.S. and we've already exceeded their number of deaths. How come?

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Probably because they are lying about their numbers, which is scary to consider.

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Oldbear83 said:

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You remain in malicious denial.

Common, yet sad.

So easy to hate someone, yet ignore your own evil.

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You're offering up a false dichotomy by talking about things you know nothing about; the fact is that I never ignore my own sin, and work every damn day of my life to better myself. But you, knowing nothing about what you're talking about, like to make pronouncements as if you have a clue, filling the space created by your lack of knowledge with "talking out your ass" misdirection. Common, yet sad.

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Are you Pelosi's son? wow, you are an incredible idiot! Ridiculous thread.

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LTbear said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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You remain in malicious denial.

Common, yet sad.

So easy to hate someone, yet ignore your own evil.

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You're offering up a false dichotomy by talking about things you know nothing about; the fact is that I never ignore my own sin, and work every damn day of my life to better myself. But you, knowing nothing about what you're talking about, like to make pronouncements as if you have a clue, filling the space created by your lack of knowledge with "talking out your ass" misdirection. Common, yet sad.

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Are you Pelosi's son? wow, you are an incredible idiot! Ridiculous thread.

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PhD from the top program in my field says otherwise. Either refute something I said, or quit wasting space.

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Jesus Christ, this guy is a psychopath, bragging about ratings during a Pandemic? people are scared, of course they are watching you you Moron!

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This moron is completely out of touch. How he thought it made sense to tweet that out, I can't comprehend. Such a petty, insecure little child. Absolutely disgusting and disgraceful.

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This. It's unbelievable.

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Wallace said:

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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China has about 5 times the # of people in the U.S. and we've already exceeded their number of deaths. How come?

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Probably because they are lying about their numbers, which is scary to consider.

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I don't believe China's numbers for a minute, but I doubt we'll ever really know what they were.

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Forest Bueller_bf said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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China has about 5 times the # of people in the U.S. and we've already exceeded their number of deaths. How come?

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Is this a serious question?

Forest Bueller_bf said:

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bearassnekkid said:

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Jinx 2 said:

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We're the first country to "record" 100,000 cases. And that's a gross underestimate, since it's hard to even be testing.

We now have more cases than China.

Trump should be apologizing to the American people for his awful leadership.

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120k, and most experts conservatively estimate that actual cases are 11x the number of positive tests. That means 1.32 million Americans have it (or have had it).

At 2,000 deaths, that puts the mortality rate at 0.1% (identical to the flu). If our covid deaths increase by 20x from here, we'll finally catch up to our normal, seasonal flu fatalities. So why are you freaking out, and blaming the president for something?

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I see on these boards often either an absolute lack of understanding of the science behind this Virus or a hate for Trump which is understandable or both. Trump was NEVER going to stop the spread of this pandemic, Trump was NEVER going to stop people from dying. The high estimates of 2.2 million to 1.7 million deaths are likely too high, but anything less than 200,000 deaths and social spacing has done as much as humanly possible. The medical people know this, I'm sure Trump knows this, and as expected, the rank and file democrats have militarized this virus as something that could be stopped like an advancing army, and it's Trumps fault it's spreading. This is medical bull****, and the top medical folks know this, I can tell the way Cuomo is acting he knows it.

Drove my Home Depot on the way to my locked office this morning, looked like Black Friday at 9:00am this morning. Humans are social beings, all the warnings and shelter in place and cautionary tales are not stopping us from getting out. I drove by the dog park this weekend, it was loaded. This all happening in a shelter in place community. Drove by Krogers, by Tom Thumb, packed. WE are spreading this, not intentionally, but our society is incapable of just staying put, unless by martial law.

Until people stop lauding or blaming a politician about this, nothing will change, they/politicians can't do this. Folks have to shut it down, and they aren't, even when told to. Sure they aren't working, but they are filling the stores that are open. This simply will not stop the spread.

As I have said from the beginning, this virus will advance until 1) it runs through the entire exposed population and those that can get it do get it or 2) It mutates into a much less harmful virus and basically disappears, that's how viruses work, it's how they always work and how it will continue. WE can slow it, we won't stop it.

So far with our much larger population than other large Western Cultures the US has been fortunate with the death rate, much better than some other large Western societies.

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I agree with some of what you are saying. However, it took Trump six weeks to reach yesterday's epiphany and comprehend what he was told early. That is six weeks we could have been further down the road to having more ventilators, and PPE's available. The lost six weeks translates into lost lives.

The sad part is that it seems that Trump's image and political future is more important than stopping this virus, not only to him but to some of his supporters on this board. For the sake of everybody, he will hopefully realize the real battle that must be won, and it is not the one in November. Perhaps shifting his focus to the real battle could be the best path he has to November. The time for childish petty bickering was passed a long time ago.

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Oldbear83 said:

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I see a lot of hate from some truly malicious people here.

Deal with your own sins.

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Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt
The idea is Trump is a moron. Discuss that notion instead of our supposed "hate."
45 is moron. Discuss

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"Trump" makes it people.

Get a better mind, Waco.