Giuliani on Ingraham saying 669 tests Hydroxychloroquine .....

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Florda_mike
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NPR article isn't worth my time as that's TDS infested as we all know IF we're being honest, unlike BaylorBJM is capable

"Science" article admitted studies were in Iran and China and there were "too few samples to be definitive!" Did BJM read its own article?

The Fox "science" article admits same but keeps blacking out as I read it! Why is it doing that? We all know Fox is turning left and this from more lib anti Trump science side. Again cites Iran? So we trust Iran? Was BJM alive in 1979? No

I repeat what Rush said other day. If we had grown to not trust the media over time Trump has become President then why shouldn't we at least wonder if coronavirus news is Fake News just like Russia, Kavanaugh, Impeachment, etc?

So why couldn't articles like this be "Fake News?"

Does anyone else at least wonder?

Does BJM have an agenda? Why is it so invested in Americans dying? Hey BJM, would you prefer Americans dying more than Trump getting 2nd term? Of course you would! Hence, Fake News! Plenty of studies show opposite results and you know it

I wish you parents would stop enabling you
BaylorBJM
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contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


Really? That's your takeaway from this? You really think me -or anyone for that matter- doesn't want a cure?

You need to step back and take a deep breath.

The projection here is off the charts.

Edit: I responded before seeing Tommie's post.
Canada2017
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Not reasonable to shoot the messenger . I appreciate the heads up.

Disappointing results, but should not be ignored.

Florda_mike
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Check out Valhalla thread

Fake News is boundless and goes on unpunished

Alotta Debbie Downers around here

Why do you blindly trust the media

Read articles! Clearly says studies aren't "peer reviewed!"

Wake up people
Florda_mike
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Dude you're a loser

Tell us your thoughts of Trump?

Crickets?
Jacques Strap
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This is a really wierd COVID-19 subplot. Multiple MDs in the field treating COVID-19 around the nation reporting it works yet so much pushback. I stopped collecing links but here are a few from my collection

Los Angeles


Florida
coronavirus-briefing-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-helped-patients-trials-needed/

Denver
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/04/06/denver-doctor-coronavirus-hydroxycholoroquine/

Texas
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-elderly-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-texas-city/287-7383185c-940c-4cb2-82ea-c4a5ffad3ffb

Orlando
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/04/10/brevard-doctor-lupus-drug-for-coronavirus





Jacques Strap
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In vitro study from 2005 for anyone who cares

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1743-422X-2-69

Chloroquine is a potent inhibitor of SARS coronavirus infection and spread

Conclusion

Chloroquine is effective in preventing the spread of SARS CoV in cell culture. Favorable inhibition of virus spread was observed when the cells were either treated with chloroquine prior to or after SARS CoV infection. In addition, the indirect immunofluorescence assay described herein represents a simple and rapid method for screening SARS-CoV antiviral compounds.
D. C. Bear
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BaylorBJM said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


Really? That's your takeaway from this? You really think me -or anyone for that matter- doesn't want a cure?

You need to step back and take a deep breath.

The projection here is off the charts.

Edit: I responded before seeing Tommie's post.


It would have been "of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens" if there were a benefit to that medication with COVID-19 given early observations.

Your implication is that a "semi-functioning Homo sapien" would not have even tested the medicine. The take away is that you are most interested in gratuitously calling people less than semi-functioning humans.


Ignore the inadvertent emoticon.
D. C. Bear
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Double post.



Oldbear83
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tommie said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


How did you come to any of these conclusions?

You seem emotionally invested in hydrochloroquine working. Why does it have to be this drug versus a drug? The Gilead study is promising. Isn't that a possible positive outcome?
The point is not one specific drug, it's that BaylorBJm was cheering a report showing a promising drug would not help people. That's damn ghoulish.

We should hope for as many effective drugs as possible to be available and used. Anyone cheering for a drug to fail should be chased out of the room in shame.
Oldbear83
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Jacques Strap said:

This is a really wierd COVID-19 subplot. Multiple MDs in the field treating COVID-19 around the nation reporting it works yet so much pushback. I stopped collecing links but here are a few from my collection

Los Angeles


Florida
coronavirus-briefing-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-helped-patients-trials-needed/

Denver
https://denver.cbslocal.com/2020/04/06/denver-doctor-coronavirus-hydroxycholoroquine/

Texas
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/texas-elderly-hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus-treatment-texas-city/287-7383185c-940c-4cb2-82ea-c4a5ffad3ffb

Orlando
https://www.mynews13.com/fl/orlando/news/2020/04/10/brevard-doctor-lupus-drug-for-coronavirus






One thing which I think gets missed, is that human chemistry is sometimes weird. Ever wonder why there are so many different OTC pain relievers? Part of that is because of what does and does not work. For some reason, Tylenol does not work on me, has no effect other than delaying when I can take something else for pain. But aspirin has always been good for a wide range of aches and pains for, me, even thought I am aware that there are a lot of people who cannot take aspirin.

It's therefore no surprise to me to find that some drugs work well for some people against COVID-19, but not for others. That's got to be maddening for clinicians trying to find a broadly useful drug to fight the virus.
Mitch Blood Green
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Oldbear83 said:

tommie said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


How did you come to any of these conclusions?

You seem emotionally invested in hydrochloroquine working. Why does it have to be this drug versus a drug? The Gilead study is promising. Isn't that a possible positive outcome?
The point is not one specific drug, it's that BaylorBJm was cheering a report showing a promising drug would not help people. That's damn ghoulish.

We should hope for as many effective drugs as possible to be available and used. Anyone cheering for a drug to fail should be chased out of the room in shame.


I didn't see cheering. I agree with you, we want ANY drug to work.

This should not be a partisan pandemic. It has become one.
BaylorBJM
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Oldbear83 said:

tommie said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


How did you come to any of these conclusions?

You seem emotionally invested in hydrochloroquine working. Why does it have to be this drug versus a drug? The Gilead study is promising. Isn't that a possible positive outcome?
The point is not one specific drug, it's that BaylorBJm was cheering a report showing a promising drug would not help people. That's damn ghoulish.

We should hope for as many effective drugs as possible to be available and used. Anyone cheering for a drug to fail should be chased out of the room in shame.


Cheering? What in the world??

Goodness gracious.
Jacques Strap
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Oldbear83 said:

tommie said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


How did you come to any of these conclusions?

You seem emotionally invested in hydrochloroquine working. Why does it have to be this drug versus a drug? The Gilead study is promising. Isn't that a possible positive outcome?
The point is not one specific drug, it's that BaylorBJm was cheering a report showing a promising drug would not help people. That's damn ghoulish.

We should hope for as many effective drugs as possible to be available and used. Anyone cheering for a drug to fail should be chased out of the room in shame.
That is a good point. I'm skeptical by nature and training (auditor) but at this point if I did get COVID-19 I'd want hydrochloroquine + zpack + zing sulfate. In the meantime if something better comes along I'd move to that.

I suppose some these local MDs on You Tube indicating some degree of success with this treatment could be lying but I doubt they all are. There are quite a lot of them.
contrario
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BaylorBJM said:

contrario said:

BaylorBJM said:

Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19

https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study

Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.


Really? That's your takeaway from this? You really think me -or anyone for that matter- doesn't want a cure?

You need to step back and take a deep breath.

The projection here is off the charts.

Edit: I responded before seeing Tommie's post.
Then why the apparent glee that it didn't work out so you could point it out to the very vocal and powerless few that thought it could possibly work?

For the record, I had nothing invested in it working out other than saving lives, which you guys claimed to want to do.
HuMcK
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Florda_mike
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HuMcK said:




Good riddance
Jacques Strap
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Florda_mike said:

HuMcK said:




Good riddance
Some people that get forced out of jobs actually deserved to be forced out of their job.
Florda_mike
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Yep, earned his demotion
HuMcK
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In a just world literal heads would roll for hyping up this silver-bullet dud and turning it into a politicized issue. Giuliani and Trump would be first in line.
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HuMcK said:

In a just world literal heads would roll for hyping up this silver-bullet dud and turning it into a politicized issue. Giuliani and Trump would be first in line.



In a just world, my political opponents would be executed...
Yeah... right...
HuMcK
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Remember how much Trump and Giuliani btched when people said hold up, let's test this stuff out first before we declare if a sliver-bullet? They accused people of wanting it not to work just to hurt Trump. They made a political issue out of a drug that, upon that further testing which apparently only "the liberals" wanted, turned out to actually do more harm than good. We tested this unproven drug that turned out raise mortality on our sick veterans just to satisfy Trump's whim. I wonder how many veterans as test subjects died in that fiasco, just so Trump would have something to pump up in pressers?

So yeah, the ones that knowingly sold false cures and politicized the use of a dangerous drug that turned out to make things worse, just like the experts said it would, you bet your ass there should be consequences.
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FDA removes use of a drug that is already available so we can get a new expensive one...

I will change my mind on this drug when countries like south korea stop using it.
D. C. Bear
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HuMcK said:

Remember how much Trump and Giuliani btched when people said hold up, let's test this stuff out first before we declare if a sliver-bullet? They accused people of wanting it not to work just to hurt Trump. They made a political issue out of a drug that, upon that further testing which apparently only "the liberals" wanted, turned out to actually do more harm than good. We tested this unproven drug that turned out raise mortality on our sick veterans just to satisfy Trump's whim. I wonder how many veterans as test subjects died in that fiasco, just so Trump would have something to pump up in pressers?

So yeah, the ones that knowingly sold false cures and politicized the use of a dangerous drug that turned out to make things worse, just like the experts said it would, you bet your ass there should be consequences.


In a just world, my political opponents would be executed...
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Gruvin said:

FDA removes use of a drug that is already available so we can get a new expensive one...

I will change my mind on this drug when countries like south korea stop using it.
The FDA only does what Congress allow it to do!
fubar
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What?
HuMcK
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Anybody notice now that Trump has COVID he's not talking about or taking Hydroxchloroquine anymore? Weird how that turned out, almost as if hyping the stuff up was always just political bullsht...
HuMcK
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Remember all the hype over this? Remember Trumpers calling people traitors for not falling in line behind this drug?
 
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