Giuliani on Ingraham saying 669 tests Hydroxychloroquine .....
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May I recommend a boomerang?ABC BEAR said:If my Slinky would have worked I wouldn't have thrown it out.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I hope it works. I am skeptical.
If diet pills worked there would be few fat people.
If hair pills work there would be few bald people.
It's all in the wrist.LIB,MR BEARS said:May I recommend a boomerang?ABC BEAR said:If my Slinky would have worked I wouldn't have thrown it out.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I hope it works. I am skeptical.
If diet pills worked there would be few fat people.
If hair pills work there would be few bald people.
Big Pharma is putting a lot of money into new solutions not generic solutions.
Big Pharma will want to recover that money.
A generic solution is adverse to their goal.
Big Pharma spends a lot of money on ads.
Companies that get ad revenue don't want to hurt their own ad revenue.
Articles written negatively towards hydroxy chloroquine are mostly short, shallow pieces.
Their will be eventually be documentaries sorting out what happened some day. I'm not sure anyone will be able to make sense of it in the short term.
Big Pharma will want to recover that money.
A generic solution is adverse to their goal.
Big Pharma spends a lot of money on ads.
Companies that get ad revenue don't want to hurt their own ad revenue.
Articles written negatively towards hydroxy chloroquine are mostly short, shallow pieces.
Their will be eventually be documentaries sorting out what happened some day. I'm not sure anyone will be able to make sense of it in the short term.
Ski8103 said:
Big Pharma is putting a lot of money into new solutions not generic solutions.
Big Pharma will want to recover that money.
A generic solution is adverse to their goal.
Big Pharma spends a lot of money on ads.
Companies that get ad revenue don't want to hurt their own ad revenue.
Articles written negatively towards hydroxy chloroquine are mostly short, shallow pieces.
Their will be eventually be documentaries sorting out what happened some day. I'm not sure anyone will be able to make sense of it in the short term.
It'll be interesting to see if Big Pharma has power to quelch Democrat Cuomo 1100 person study that should have results soon now!?
I've heard rumor Big Pharma is threatening to ruin any doctor career coming out in favor of Hydroxychloroquine
If the cure was as simple as taking a readily available pill and at least two nations (France and Australia) knew this last week dont you think by now everyone would know and the numbers would be coming down?
Are the numbers coming down?
"In general if hydroxychloroquine really, really worked, and it was a magic drug for COVID-19, we would know it by now," says Dr. David Sullivan, professor of microbiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and an infectious disease physician at the university's malaria research institute. "Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works."
https://time.com/5808894/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/
Are the numbers coming down?
"In general if hydroxychloroquine really, really worked, and it was a magic drug for COVID-19, we would know it by now," says Dr. David Sullivan, professor of microbiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and an infectious disease physician at the university's malaria research institute. "Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works."
https://time.com/5808894/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/
My thoughts as well .
Perhaps you could share a link of where you hear such rumors? Is it a secret web site you dont want to share?Florda_mike said:Ski8103 said:
Big Pharma is putting a lot of money into new solutions not generic solutions.
Big Pharma will want to recover that money.
A generic solution is adverse to their goal.
Big Pharma spends a lot of money on ads.
Companies that get ad revenue don't want to hurt their own ad revenue.
Articles written negatively towards hydroxy chloroquine are mostly short, shallow pieces.
Their will be eventually be documentaries sorting out what happened some day. I'm not sure anyone will be able to make sense of it in the short term.
It'll be interesting to see if Big Pharma has power to quelch Democrat Cuomo 1100 person study that should have results soon now!?
I've heard rumor Big Pharma is threatening to ruin any doctor career coming out in favor of Hydroxychloroquine
now Big Pharma is part of the Deep State. who knew
what about investors in Big Pharma, aren't they the real villains if above is true?
what about investors in Big Pharma, aren't they the real villains if above is true?
In your mind. is "deep state" limited to America, or does it control the world?
Ski8103 said:
Big Pharma is putting a lot of money into new solutions not generic solutions.
Big Pharma will want to recover that money.
A generic solution is adverse to their goal.
Big Pharma spends a lot of money on ads.
Companies that get ad revenue don't want to hurt their own ad revenue.
Articles written negatively towards hydroxy chloroquine are mostly short, shallow pieces.
Their will be eventually be documentaries sorting out what happened some day. I'm not sure anyone will be able to make sense of it in the short term.
If I'm big pharma, I'd want two things.
1. I'd want the vaccine. I can sell it over and over again.
2. I'd want the living customer.
Fighting to let people die so I can sell the drug cure , while possible, isn't probable. I know there are crappy businessmen out there but your argument is that they all are and they are globally. I don't believe it.
What is more probable is if you don't get to market, someone else will.
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Careful Tommy. Big Pharma will hear you and you will lose you job. They are everywhere.
I was really asking Florda for the source of the rumors about doctors losing job for saying anything positive about Hydroxychloroquin but thanks.Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This was started in early March on 20 patients. Its good news if such a high success rate can be duplicated in much larger groups giddy up
Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
I think the size of this group was small on purpose so results could be produced more quickly. A larger group is almost certainly being tested now.D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Im not sure any news coming out of China is worth much. A teacher friend that does online classes for China students said one of her student was excited to be able to move about again, but then the student said things got really bad again quickly.
D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
I'm surprised they're not talking about zinc in these studies. I think some of the effectiveness of HC is that it helps cells absorb zinc which in turn the zinc protects the RNA which is what the virus is trying to hijack.
They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
.
whiterock said:They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
Thanks a ton
Maybe I won't be "Pooh-poohed" upon, for pumping chloroquine on here for a couple weeks?
Nah
We don't even have a cure for the flu or common cold.
Didn't NY announce an 1100 person trial for HC? Hope we get good results.
If I come down with the CV I'll request HC and Z Pack. Doesn't look like anything else is touching it.
Didn't NY announce an 1100 person trial for HC? Hope we get good results.
If I come down with the CV I'll request HC and Z Pack. Doesn't look like anything else is touching it.
FKA tri it
I had read something similar about zero lupus patients among those with virus. My mother in law has lupus (age 87) so it has been a potential source of encouragement for her; not getting Covid19, not sure about her lupus meds supply.
I've said the same thing but last i checked last week hydroxychoriquine was on back order. I talked to a doctor today that said he already had his just in case. All i have is a quinine supplement.Iron Claw said:
We don't even have a cure for the flu or common cold.
Didn't NY announce an 1100 person trial for HC? Hope we get good results.
If I come down with the CV I'll request HC and Z Pack. Doesn't look like anything else is touching it.
whiterock said:They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
.
Any thoughts on how long it will take to produce enough of the drug for all Americans ?
Canada2017 said:whiterock said:They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
.
Any thoughts on how long it will take to produce enough of the drug for all Americans ?
If it is effective, the vast majority of people will not require it, even though infected.
Here is your point and counterpoint articles of the day:
https://spectator.org/the-20-solution-to-coronavirus-anecdotal-evidence-is-a-life-saver/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-versus-covid-19/
I think one reality with Covid 19 is that doctors want a way to heal really ill patients and antivirals may be too late for that. To the extent hydroxycholoroquine is effective, it's probably as a preventative/early symptom way to prevent patients from becoming those really ill patients that need ventilators and other difficult interventions. In that sense, it solves a big problem which is letting people heal at home so hospitals stay under capacity.
https://spectator.org/the-20-solution-to-coronavirus-anecdotal-evidence-is-a-life-saver/
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-versus-covid-19/
I think one reality with Covid 19 is that doctors want a way to heal really ill patients and antivirals may be too late for that. To the extent hydroxycholoroquine is effective, it's probably as a preventative/early symptom way to prevent patients from becoming those really ill patients that need ventilators and other difficult interventions. In that sense, it solves a big problem which is letting people heal at home so hospitals stay under capacity.
D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:whiterock said:They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
.
Any thoughts on how long it will take to produce enough of the drug for all Americans ?
If it is effective, the vast majority of people will not require it, even though infected.
I've seen some news reports that Sandoz and Bauer have donated 31m doses.
I don't think it will take a ton of time. Just need CDC and FDA to issue the notices and the supply chain will flow in a matter of days.
FDA issued authorization for emergency use on Sunday, so the gears are starting to turn.
yes, but on the other hand.......D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:whiterock said:They didn't. Doctor friend got an email from a Chinese doctor friend (same speciality practice) who said Chinese doctors are not even bothering to administer tests. Patients showing up with dry cough & fever are given prescription for 600mg TID for 14 days and sent home to recuperate.Canada2017 said:Yes it would.... as at this point I am still dubious .D. C. Bear said:Canada2017 said:Oldbear83 said:
Well, there's this from the National Institute of Health (NIH):
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32205204?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral
The key quote:
"CONCLUSION: Despite its small sample size our survey shows that hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with viral load reduction/disappearance in COVID-19 patients and its effect is reinforced by azithromycin."
This is encouraging.
Particularly since there is a sort of control group. If it is replicated with larger studies, would be tremendously helpful.
Find it difficult to believe the Chinese medical/research communities would miss such an obvious drug experimentation .
Took chloroquine for three years as malaria prophyllaxis. And if you get malaria, they just increase the dosage to cure you of malaria. It works by preventing the pathogen from reproducing, so symptoms improve as existing parasite load dies out naturally. Chinese doctors this go-around discovered in data analysis that there were zero Lupus patients showing up with coronaviruses. That triggered the realization that Lupus patients take chloroquine to manage their symptoms, and then they remembered Chloroquine was proven to have a similar effect on SARS & MERS (both coronaviruses). So they tried it. It worked. It's now the go-to treatment in China and Korea.
Clinical trials are hard to do in the onset of a pandemic. CDC is not going to send out an advisory recommending use without clinical trials, several of which are ongoing now here in the USA. Meanwhile, it's being widely used here. It's in short supply already. Lupus patients are having difficulty getting prescriptions refilled, which means US doctors have gotten the word (as did my friend) that Chloroquine works....and they've ordered in stocks to prepare to treat themselves and staff. Know a couple of doctors who've done exactly that.
As soon as the manufacturing and distribution gets ramped up, chloroquine will be the go-to drug. Unless something else turns out better. Remdesivir looks pretty interesting.
People who pooh-pooh chloroquine are going to look rather foolish here pretty quickly.
.
Any thoughts on how long it will take to produce enough of the drug for all Americans ?
If it is effective, the vast majority of people will not require it, even though infected.
It will probably be used as prophyllaxis by medical professionals, possibly even in households where confirmed cases are convalescing in place. It is being used as prophyllaxis abroad, now. You can catch the virus, but it cannot reproduce effectively, so you don't suffer the worst symptoms, don't shed as much virus, and get over it quickly.
Here's the FDA announcement:
https://www.hhs.gov/about/news/2020/03/29/hhs-accepts-donations-of-medicine-to-strategic-national-stockpile-as-possible-treatments-for-covid-19-patients.html
Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.BaylorBJM said:
Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
contrario said:You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.BaylorBJM said:
Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
To be fair, the study was done at the VA. It's probably wrong.
contrario said:You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.BaylorBJM said:
Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
How did you come to any of these conclusions?
You seem emotionally invested in hydrochloroquine working. Why does it have to be this drug versus a drug? The Gilead study is promising. Isn't that a possible positive outcome?
contrario said:You are a sick motherfcker celebrating this. Like seriously, how do you sleep at night you fcking sicko? Some people would rather be right than hope for a positive outcome. Fcking savages.BaylorBJM said:
Welp. In what is likely of very little surprise to most semi-functioning Homo sapiens:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/21/840341224/nih-panel-recommends-against-drug-combination-trump-has-promoted-for-covid-19
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-evidence-hydroxychloroquine-does-not-help-treat-covid-19
https://www.foxnews.com/science/covid-19-hydroxychloroquine-showed-no-benefit-more-deaths-va-virus-study
Although sadly, I'm sure there are still 1-2 on here who will cling to its supposed effectiveness despite any evidence proof whatsoever simply because the president and his lawyer hyped it ad naseum.
You're exactly correct about him I'd suspect too
Dwells in parents basement most likely
Makes everyone's life he touches worse
That's BaylorBJM