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BUMBA1 said:

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You guys do realize that this is the same area where Philando Castille was killed and that officer was acquitted. They've already seen how justice plays out. So the rioting, while troublesome and inexcusable, also takes into account previous incidents where justice definitely wasn't served.

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Perhaps the jury had a bit more information in the Castille incident than you, and thus reached the decision that they did? If there is another police involved shooting in "the same area", does that mean looters get to step up to Nordstrom's next?

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57Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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BUMBA1 said:

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You guys do realize that this is the same area where Philando Castille was killed and that officer was acquitted. They've already seen how justice plays out. So the rioting, while troublesome and inexcusable, also takes into account previous incidents where justice definitely wasn't served.

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Have you ever pulled jury duty ?

It's not easy .

What's clear in one person's mind is reasonable doubt in another's .

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I was "one of two extras" on a jury for a federal prison escapee. When we two were released prior to jury deliberations, we agreed on the way down the stairs: GUILTY. I was stunned the next morning to read in the paper: INNOCENT.

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Canada2017 said:

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57Bear said:

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Canada2017 said:

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BUMBA1 said:

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You guys do realize that this is the same area where Philando Castille was killed and that officer was acquitted. They've already seen how justice plays out. So the rioting, while troublesome and inexcusable, also takes into account previous incidents where justice definitely wasn't served.

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Have you ever pulled jury duty ?

It's not easy .

What's clear in one person's mind is reasonable doubt in another's .

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I was "one of two extras" on a jury for a federal prison escapee. When we two were released prior to jury deliberations, we agreed on the way down the stairs: GUILTY. I was stunned the next morning to read in the paper: INNOCENT.

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Was on the jury of a rape case .

Was 10-1 for almost 2 full days of deliberations .

Secret ballot

Finally the holdout admitted he was voting to acquit only because he didn't believe rape was physically possible .

Me and 2 other guys 'convinced ' him to change his mind .

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Canada2017 said:

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Hispanic fella in his mid 40's .

Also said he had done ' the same kind of things ' as a teenager .

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tommie said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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Remember when our country waited to see if justice would be served before rioting?

Justice has not been denied for George Floyd.

George Floyd has died in vain as people burn cities, communities and small business to the ground.

Sad.

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George Floyd is dead. Killed by the state without due process of law. I don't know if there is a more perfect example of "justice denied."

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His crime (we now know) was using a counterfeit $20 in the store. I don't know if he intentionally passed a fake $20 or it was given to him and he thought it was real.

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notbubbleboy said:

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LOL about "how far we've come". That's a pretty damned low bar. We started out with white landowners torturing/killing/impregnating slaves. Then we went to bands of malicious rednecks, often with law enforcement support lynching/torturing black Americans for "acting uppity" and talking to white women. Now they are being killed for jogging, selling cigarettes and passing fake twenties.

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Thee University said:

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notbubbleboy said:

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LOL about "how far we've come". That's a pretty damned low bar. We started out with white landowners torturing/killing/impregnating slaves. Then we went to bands of malicious rednecks, often with law enforcement support lynching/torturing black Americans for "acting uppity" and talking to white women. Now they are being killed for jogging, selling cigarettes and passing fake twenties.

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BS! What is wrong with abiding by the requests or orders of authorities? With each passing year I see more and more dumb@$$es that blatantly disregard law enforcement. We are becoming a nation of spoiled yet entitled idiots who believe that no laws or rules pertain to them. When a cop tells me to do something I do it immediately no matter if guilty or not.

So what in the hell do you want done now?

America has been the best country on earth for African Americans. 600,000 Africans, brought here primarily by black slave traders, grew into a community of 40 million in this horrible country. Remember, Lincoln wanted to send all freed slaves/blacks to Liberia.

Africans were introduced to Christian salvation here. They reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity black folks have ever known here.

Yes, slavery is horrendous. It still goes on today in some countries. Yes, some Americans owned slaves. Yes, some slaves were mistreated. The overwhelmingly vast majority of Americans never owned a slave nor desired to. It happened. It has taken longer than it should to undo a terrible wrong.

No people anywhere have done more to lift up blacks than those wicked and evil white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We live in an environment where way too many folks (black, white, brown, yellow & red) consistently want more free "stuff" NOW and live beyond their means that they either did or did not prepare for. Whites are NOT out hunting, killing and robbing blacks, browns or yellows.

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D. C. Bear said:

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Thee University said:

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notbubbleboy said:

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LOL about "how far we've come". That's a pretty damned low bar. We started out with white landowners torturing/killing/impregnating slaves. Then we went to bands of malicious rednecks, often with law enforcement support lynching/torturing black Americans for "acting uppity" and talking to white women. Now they are being killed for jogging, selling cigarettes and passing fake twenties.

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BS! What is wrong with abiding by the requests or orders of authorities? With each passing year I see more and more dumb@$$es that blatantly disregard law enforcement. We are becoming a nation of spoiled yet entitled idiots who believe that no laws or rules pertain to them. When a cop tells me to do something I do it immediately no matter if guilty or not.

So what in the hell do you want done now?

America has been the best country on earth for African Americans. 600,000 Africans, brought here primarily by black slave traders, grew into a community of 40 million in this horrible country. Remember, Lincoln wanted to send all freed slaves/blacks to Liberia.

Africans were introduced to Christian salvation here. They reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity black folks have ever known here.

Yes, slavery is horrendous. It still goes on today in some countries. Yes, some Americans owned slaves. Yes, some slaves were mistreated. The overwhelmingly vast majority of Americans never owned a slave nor desired to. It happened. It has taken longer than it should to undo a terrible wrong.

No people anywhere have done more to lift up blacks than those wicked and evil white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We live in an environment where way too many folks (black, white, brown, yellow & red) consistently want more free "stuff" NOW and live beyond their means that they either did or did not prepare for. Whites are NOT out hunting, killing and robbing blacks, browns or yellows.

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Is it your contention that killing Mr. Floyd was justified?

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Thee University said:

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D. C. Bear said:

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Thee University said:

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notbubbleboy said:

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LOL about "how far we've come". That's a pretty damned low bar. We started out with white landowners torturing/killing/impregnating slaves. Then we went to bands of malicious rednecks, often with law enforcement support lynching/torturing black Americans for "acting uppity" and talking to white women. Now they are being killed for jogging, selling cigarettes and passing fake twenties.

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BS! What is wrong with abiding by the requests or orders of authorities? With each passing year I see more and more dumb@$$es that blatantly disregard law enforcement. We are becoming a nation of spoiled yet entitled idiots who believe that no laws or rules pertain to them. When a cop tells me to do something I do it immediately no matter if guilty or not.

So what in the hell do you want done now?

America has been the best country on earth for African Americans. 600,000 Africans, brought here primarily by black slave traders, grew into a community of 40 million in this horrible country. Remember, Lincoln wanted to send all freed slaves/blacks to Liberia.

Africans were introduced to Christian salvation here. They reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity black folks have ever known here.

Yes, slavery is horrendous. It still goes on today in some countries. Yes, some Americans owned slaves. Yes, some slaves were mistreated. The overwhelmingly vast majority of Americans never owned a slave nor desired to. It happened. It has taken longer than it should to undo a terrible wrong.

No people anywhere have done more to lift up blacks than those wicked and evil white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas to advance black applicants over white applicants. Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We live in an environment where way too many folks (black, white, brown, yellow & red) consistently want more free "stuff" NOW and live beyond their means that they either did or did not prepare for. Whites are NOT out hunting, killing and robbing blacks, browns or yellows.

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Is it your contention that killing Mr. Floyd was justified?

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Is that your comprehension?

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Doc Holliday said:

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Remember when our country waited to see if justice would be served before rioting?

Justice has not been denied for George Floyd.

George Floyd has died in vain as people burn cities, communities and small business to the ground.

Sad.

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robby44 said:

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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

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The riots and looting were coming no matter what. The murder of George Floyd was just the excuse to light the fuse.

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Not true.
In the cases of Botham Jean (Dallas) and Atatiana Jefferson (Fort Worth) both of whom were killed in their homes there were zero riots. In fact hugs and bibles were offered to the killer Amber Guyger

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Johnny Bear said:

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BUMBA1 said:

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fubar said:

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riflebear said:

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People killing (and trying to kill) each other have been around since Cain got pissed at Abel. It's not going away.

The difference in the cases you present is not black and white and who did the killing. In one, and only one, of the cases, the person doing the killing was acting under the authority of the government ... while others in authority stood by and did nothing to stop the killing. That's the difference.

If you don't see and understand the difference, you truly are an imbecile.

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I couldn't agree more. In the MN mall incident, the perpetrator was immediately arrested, tried and convicted to the fullest extent of the law.

The George Floyd outrage is not that a white man killed a black man. It's that a police officer acting under authority of the government killed a person and nothing was done about it by those in power at the scene.

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And it is obviously being vigorously and seriously investigated from the federal justice department on down with I'm sure serious prosecution to come - but why do the civilized thing and let the justice system do its job? Let's riot and pillage and plunder people who had absolutely nothing to do with this while the getting is good!

And in the aftermath, be sure to keep scratching your head and wondering why business entrepreneurs are hesitant to open job creating businesses in your neighborhood.

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