RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Man, that is a frickin' AMAZING stat! I am skeptical that it is true. The mainstream news media would have us believe that 99 percent of blacks are shackled in chains under the duress of their evil white masters!!!!D. C. Bear said:Porteroso said:I agree that communities tend to have different struggles. We'll just see what he says. I really wonder how he knows so much about all black Americans, internally, that he can tell us they won't face their problems. Like I said, an incredible statement.D. C. Bear said:I was answering you question about familial breakup.Porteroso said:I'm not saying all cultures experience all problems equally. I want to understand, before going off on oldbear, why he thinks blacks are "unwilling to address their own internal issues."D. C. Bear said:
While familial breakup is not exclusively an African American issue, it is a much more pronounced issue when it comes to African American children.
https://datacenter.kidscount.org/data/bar/107-children-in-single-parent-families-by-race?loc=1&loct=1#1/any/false/37/10,11,9,12,1,185,13/431
I am going to assume the Annie E. Casey Foundation is providing legitimate data.
That's an incredible statement on several levels, and I'm blown away enough that I want to understand more of why he thinks that, or even finds that to be an acceptable thing to say. I get that it's the internet and all, but still.
The problem with his statement is that it treats an entire ethnic group as monolithic. There are, however, a wide number of problems in the African American community that tend to be more severe than those same problems in the broader population. There are also those who benefit from a poor relationship between law enforcement and the African American community.
Black Americans face 1 major challenge, generational poverty. For the sake of argument, take an educated white person. If that person falls into poverty for more than 3 years, the chances of regaining economic stability are very slim. Many black Americans coming from generational poverty never have a real shot. We can talk (and many on this forum do) about how everyone has the chance to make something of themselves, but it's not really true, if you've ever cared to even read an article about it. Poverty, especially when it's the only condition your entire family, and your friends, have ever known, is incredibly difficult to come out of. And it doesn't just affect blacks, there are Hispanic, white, Native American families that deal with it, and it's hard for any of them to come out of it.
My opinion is that we could combat poverty in a way that doesn't account for race, just bend over backwards at the local, state, and federal level, to give anyone in poverty a real chance at a great education. You could get all of America behind that, but before we can talk about that, we have to recognize that poverty is a problem, and we need to recognize that for many reasons, generational poverty, especially generational poverty that traces its roots back to slavery, is really, really bad for society.
And here we are, back at square one. Oldbear, why does "ignorance" so succinctly describe "generational poverty that traces its roots back to slavery?"
More than 50 percent of African Americans are middle class, upper middle class or upper class.
It is true. Blacks in America are, overall, less well off than their white counterparts, but they are not helplessly and hopelessly mired in miserable poverty, despite what some in media and some politicians would have you think.
Black Americans are among the more resilient groups in history. Many were brought here in slavery, and all subject to legalized discrimination for several generations after slavery ended which has left higher numbers of poor than their population percentage would merit, but theirs is not merely a story of oppression but also of overcoming and prospering greatly.
