I gave him a C on the handling of the virus...not sure what else he could of done, BUT, he gets an F from me on the handling of George Floyd and the riots. He could have easily done more to calm people's feelings. He could have invited the Floyd family to the white house...there are a number of things he could have done. Instead, he tweets like a 12 year old. So freaking frustrating.

Having said that and knowing all that I know now, I'd still vote for him over Hillary. For 2020, he'll get my vote again (begrudgingly) because he still harms us less than Biden, IMO.

Agreed.

100% agree.

I would vote for someone else if they weren't a dementia patient.

Jack and DP said:

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What if Nikki ran as an Independent?

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Then Biden wins because it splits the R party and takes very few of the D party. See H. Ross Perot.

Maybe a new law....each party must nominate TWO candidates....Trump (R) Haley (R) Biden (D) and Sanders (D) now wouldn't THAT be interesting...

100 percent agree. A lot of people seem worried about Biden's dementia, but Trump worries me even more.

I can't believe the choice we have this November. I am going to have to vote my conscience.

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Maybe a new law....each party must nominate TWO candidates....Trump (R) Haley (R) Biden (D) and Sanders (D) now wouldn't THAT be interesting...

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I like the idea of a national primary then we don't get stuck with who falls out. Have it in May. Runoff July. Convention. Election.

Iowa, NH and SC shouldn't leave me with one or two options. While the have multiple.

Glad y'all aren't running the country.

We'd have lockdowns until next year and absolutely no response to rioting in which you'd give into the demands of the mob.

You wonder how we got here...because y'all are peacetime conservatives. Be a wartime conservative.

F - for his twitter game and petty fights w/ others
B/B+ - For his policies and what he does behind the scenes and trying to protect ALL Americans along w/ what he's done for the inner cities & Black communities. Unfortunately the press will never talk about that. He's not a good speaker but lets be honest even when Obama was in the White House he couldn't stop rioting etc and even encouraged it so I'd rather have a crazy twitter posting President who wants to protect all Americans and bring us together vs someone who wants to divide and race bait.

Disclosure....I don't want either Biden or Trump as president. But that said, one of them (if they make it to November) is going to be elected.

I've seen plenty of the dementia comments here concerning Biden. I'm not a doctor. I don't know if that is true or not. But I find it hard to believe that either political party would run someone who has been diagnosed as such. If they thought so, they would find a way to replace them on the ticket. Watching him speak is sometimes confusing, but so is listening to Trump. So if you guys want to diagnose him as such, that is your prerogative. But whether that is true or not is not documented as fact by competent authorities.

I think we are in danger with either one of these people. First, both are in risk of not being able to finish their term because of their age. I am 71. I feel that I have aged 10 years in the last two. It seems the older you get the more things pop up out of the blue. And these guys are both older than me. They can be fine one day and on their way to being seriously NOT in short order. That said it is very important to having a VP that can step in. We don't know who the Dem will be at this time. I would be OK with Pence. I think he would surround himself with good people that know what they are doing.

This is my opinion on these two dinosaurs.

Biden may or may not have dementia, but I can see the Dems moving quickly to invoke the 25th amendment if it comes to that. They are not scared of Joe Biden. Biden will also listen to his advisers that know what they are talking about. I don't think those same high-level advisers would allow him to make decisions that are clearly not in the interest of the country, especially security.

Trump, what can one say....he lives in his own world. He pays no heed to advisers, thinks he knows more than anyone else on the planet and acts on his "gut" feelings. He is all about himself, first and foremost. He thinks he can do whatever he wants. To me this is scary for a President to view himself as such and make decisions based on his feelings alone. I just don't think the guy is stable, at least not at a Presidential level stable. The 25th amendment in his case would never be invoked unless the guy loses consciousness because those who would need to do it shake in their boots in fear of bucking him, even when they know they should.

If Biden has dementia, that is indeed a dire problem. But I don't know that Trump's mental state (ego and feeling of I can do what I want) is any more safe. I do feel that if the President needed to be removed,with the 25th that action would be more likely be taken with a Biden president versus a Trump president.

I think Trump will lose, and my concern is that he takes the Senate with him because they are tying themselves so close to him. Then you have one party controlling the country. At this point, I don't think that is a good idea right now.

The Biden campaign bailing out Antifa should give anyone serious pause.

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I gave him a C on the handling of the virus...not sure what else he could of done, BUT, he gets an F from me on the handling of George Floyd and the riots. He could have easily done more to calm people's feelings. He could have invited the Floyd family to the white house...there are a number of things he could have done. Instead, he tweets like a 12 year old. So freaking frustrating.

Having said that and knowing all that I know now, I'd still vote for him over Hillary. For 2020, he'll get my vote again (begrudgingly) because he still harms us less than Biden, IMO.

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Seriously. If he invited the Floyd family to the White House he would be savagely attacked by the MSM/dimcrats for "using" the grieving Floyd family to gain personal political points while attempting to hide his "racism", yada, yada, blah, blah. Furthermore, Trump will never be a symbolism over substance type POTUS which is what you're suggesting here. If that's what you really want, then by all means vote for dementia Joe.

Given he's not a dictator or a king and given that the way it works is mayors and state governors are the mandated first line of defense in protecting their local citizenry against criminal activity, exactly what of SUBSTANCE could he have done that he hasn't done or is doing? Is it his fault that POS blue city/state mayors and governors clearly care far more about not appearing "politically incorrect" than they care about protecting the property and lives of law abiding citizens and business owners? THEY have to be the ones to request National Guard troops, which Trump has repeatedly recommended and offered full support in deploying, but again the worthless blue city/state mayors/governors are apparently just fine with major parts of their cities being destroyed in the name of "wokeness" and in the name of hurting Trump. He's also looking into taking the drastic step of invoking the insurrection act as well if the aforementioned POS dimcrat mayors/governors continue to just wring their hands and watch their cities burn.

So, again, specifically what of substance should he have done and/or be doing that he's not done and/or is doing?

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fadskier said:

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I gave him a C on the handling of the virus...not sure what else he could of done, BUT, he gets an F from me on the handling of George Floyd and the riots. He could have easily done more to calm people's feelings. He could have invited the Floyd family to the white house...there are a number of things he could have done. Instead, he tweets like a 12 year old. So freaking frustrating.

Having said that and knowing all that I know now, I'd still vote for him over Hillary. For 2020, he'll get my vote again (begrudgingly) because he still harms us less than Biden, IMO.

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Seriously. If he invited the Floyd family to the White House he would be savagely attacked by the MSM/dimcrats for "using" the grieving Floyd family to gain personal political points while attempting to hide his "racism", yada, yada, blah, blah. Furthermore, Trump will never be a symbolism over substance type POTUS which is what you're suggesting here. If that's what you really want, then by all means vote for dementia Joe.

Given he's not a dictator or a king and given that the way it works is mayors and state governors are the mandated first line of defense in protecting their local citizenry against criminal activity, exactly what of SUBSTANCE could he have done that he hasn't done or is doing? Is it his fault that POS blue city/state mayors and governors clearly care far more about not appearing "politically incorrect" than they care about protecting the property and lives of law abiding citizens and business owners? THEY have to be the ones to request National Guard troops, which Trump has repeatedly recommended and offered full support in deploying, but again the worthless blue city/state mayors/governors are apparently just fine with major parts of their cities being destroyed in the name of "wokeness" and in the name of hurting Trump. He's also looking into taking the drastic step of invoking the insurrection act as well if the aforementioned POS dimcrat mayors/governors continue to just wring their hands and watch their cities burn.

So, again, specifically what of substance should he have done and/or be doing that he's not done and/or is doing?

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I gave my ideas. He needs to be more empathetic. Maybe start a racial task force and put some of his naysayers on it as well....sometimes including the gripers in the early part helps get buy-in. Put some black police officers...maybe the Dallas PD chief on there...there has to be more done.

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Don't mean to feel like attacking your thoughts, but it feels a little like the normal tokenism. I would like him to actually attempt to have a meaty conversation. Things have been really good for African Americans during the Trump presidency economically, and his criminal justice reform is very positive. I wish he would attempt - as hard as it is for him to do - to be a statesmen. I think it is possible both to recognize injustice and call out the bull***** For example, I would say something like:
- We recognize people feel they suffer injustice or are disadvantaged
- We acknowledge the past but also that we cannot change it - our focus should be on the future
- Toward that end, I've worked to improve your communities in these ways
- I will not tolerate divisive, hateful groups of all stripes
- I will continue to work with local leader to make our communities better

But JB is right: TDSers will criticize no matter what he does. He could literally call for $100T in reparations and the response would be "Orange Man Bad."

These protest never have been about George Floyd - just an easy excuse to bully people to accepting extremist views as mainstream.

Trump is a horrible leader.
He's a self promoter.
He's not a fiscal conservative.
He's pompous.
He's a narcissist.
He's not an economic thinker.
He would step on anyone to get his way.

I didn't vote for him '16 and will not vote for him this year.

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Trump condemned the killing of George within 48 hours of the incident going viral. He hasn't done any worse with this situation than he has with other viral stuff... he just isn't a good PR guy.
The reality is that his policies and accomplishments are pretty dang amazing. If the markets & economy continue to rebound at this current rate, he will end up with an B+ to mid A on the economy.. which is all that really matters.

I hate to break it to you guys, but this round of BLM action will not last through the summer, much less to November. It won't be a top 5 topic for the election. The top 5 are always Economy/Taxes, Immigration/Border, Crime, International Policy/War, Healthcare. Racism usually lags somewhere behind Gun Policy, Climate Policy, Income Disparity and Women's Rights. This is probably a reflection of the fact that Black Americans are only about 12.5% of the population, and this topic is only a top 5 for that 12.5%... maybe not even top 5 for all of them either.

Please don't misunderstand. I'm not saying it is a good thing that Racism isn't a top 5 concern. I'm just saying that it is a reality of Presidential elections. If the election is between two old white guys, then Racism will not break the Top 5 issues. It may have been a top issue in 2008, but it won't be in 2020.

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If anything this is a huge plus for Trump. I've heard comparisons to 1968 - between someone who is mean on Twitter and their homes burning, who do you think Soccer Moms will vote for? I would put myself in this category. I was strongly considering Biden, but his rhetoric is so extreme ... and the creepy personal stuff.

Don't be a *****. Vote for the Democrat this time around. Even the RWNJs know in their hearts that Trump is destroying us.