Rawhide said:
BearTruth13 said:
Not shocked at all Trump lost. I have 10 people in my extended family. All but 1 live in Texas. My wife and I were the only Trump voters (reluctantly). 2 are staunch Dems. The rest are lifelong Republicans. Trump is the first Republican they didn't vote for. Biden is the first Dem they voted for.
Anecdotal I know but that did not inspire confidence that Trump even had a shot. His personality turned off too many people. The Dems could have run anybody other than Bernie and probably beat him.
I find amusing that our resident libbies keep trying to convince us that so many "lifelong republicans" turned away from Trump and instead voted for biden when all the data show the exact opposite. In reality, Trump grew his support - bigly.
A typical true conservative Republican doesn't vote on personality, they vote on policy. For the atypical Republican that might be influenced by personality, they wouldn't cast a vote for the person whose policies are in direct conflict with their own beliefs; instead they would just not vote for president or most likely vote for the libertarian that at least shares some of the same basic ideals.
Besides, Trump's personality didn't turn of people like you claim or he wouldn't have increased his support over 2016, received the most votes every for any incumbent president or republican - ever.
If his personality was so disgusting or a turn off and all these "lifelong republicans" cast their vote for biden, Trump would've lost millions of votes the second time.... kind of like obama/biden.
This is spot on! It is highly unlikely that voters who voted for Trump in 2016 flipped for Biden in 2020. If you voted for Trump in 2016 you also did so in 2020 given that Biden/Obama were/are one and the same. They also voted for their district reps which is why the House margin is now razor thin. The Senate simply held serve and now on to GA which is going to be a freak show given Warnock and Ossoff (two of the strangest names I have ever heard of but I digress).
I can remember in previous elections and I have voted since 1976 (Ford vs. Carter) and always voted for the more conservative, especially on economic policy, candidate. My one stupid vote was for Ross Perot bc I failed to realize all that did was push Clinton over the finish line.
You are so correct about true conservatism. My take is that once conservative you do not flip to liberal, but I have seen many people who once liberal become conservative evidenced by the "WALK AWAY" movement started by Brandon Straka....just another in a long list of reasons this election was a total fraud.
I really think most people and the polls are starting to show people KNOW this was rigged simply bc the statistical probabilities of huge wins down ballot did not translate into a Trump win which is the crux of the liberal and also to some extent the R Rhino/s argument aka anti-Trump. There is no way except for the fringes of society are in any way, shape or form going to vote for even the remote possibility of packing the courts, unfettered abortion, adding DC and Puerto Rico as states thereby increasing D reps, centralized govt, killing the oil/gas industry, and the possibility of Kamala Harris becoming pres (just in case). That is not going to happen no matter what anybody says. Furthermore, you have these crazy left loons who want to destroy people on the right by locking them out of any semblance of sustenance in their future. How unAmerican can you possibly be?
I have no doubt the Trump WH has a plan they will act on at the right moment. When you have big tech, MSM, and covert radicals working against you it forces you to seek other means to victory. Dominion employees suddenly are nowhere on the planet so this is not coincidence or correlation, but rather cause and effect. Again, if they have nothing to hide why not go on prime time TV to show us all your defense of your systems. It just leaves everyone in doubt and if this country is going to move forward all of this must be disinfected with sunlight. Otherwise we will just remain 100% divided country. Nobody freaked out when Obama beat Romney bc we all had confidence that democratic elections were straightforward. Now nobody believes that no matter what they tell you. They know in their heart of hearts this was NOT a straightforward election. In the end the truth will come out but as to whether it changes anything is an entirely different question.
