oh, really...people change? Sure they can, but Trump is the amoral person he has always been. Far from a good , honest man.wuzzybear said:People change. We are not bots. Jesus does not remember your sins of the past if you truly turn to Him. I don't know Trump's heart, but in politics it is "perception" that counts. If you don't give a s-h-i-t about Israel I feel sorry for you. So our discussion stops right here.J.R. said:He's conveniently pro-life. He was a pro-choice Democrat his entire life until he saw an opening to get him somewhere. I couldn't give 2 ****s about Israel. I could care less if mentions God in his Redneck Rallies as I'm fairly sure he isn't a believer. He is on video saying that "he doesn't ask God for forgiveness". Hardly Christian, there Wuzzy!! Hardly Christian.wuzzybear said:It is ludicrous to compare faiths! You are saved or you or not. Anyway, you couldn't be more wrong about TRUMP. He was not meant to be "eloquent." He is pro-life, a partner to Israel, and always mentions God in his rallies. Biden is pro-choice and for a Catholic that is like a cardinal sin. Anyway am not letting you get away with this nonsense. That's like asking your pastors "who is the better Christian." That is ridiculous.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
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Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
If Revelations is to be believed, Israel still has a very crucial role to play in world events in the coming years.J.R. said:Why would I care about Israel? Why would you? They don't believe Jesus is the savior which seems to be your litmus test. I thought Trump says Merca First and eff everyone else?wuzzybear said:People change. We are not bots. Jesus does not remember your sins of the past if you truly turn to Him. I don't know Trump's heart, but in politics it is "perception" that counts. If you don't give a s-h-i-t about Israel I feel sorry for you. So our discussion stops right here.J.R. said:He's conveniently pro-life. He was a pro-choice Democrat his entire life until he saw an opening to get him somewhere. I couldn't give 2 ****s about Israel. I could care less if mentions God in his Redneck Rallies as I'm fairly sure he isn't a believer. He is on video saying that "he doesn't ask God for forgiveness". Hardly Christian, there Wuzzy!! Hardly Christian.wuzzybear said:It is ludicrous to compare faiths! You are saved or you or not. Anyway, you couldn't be more wrong about TRUMP. He was not meant to be "eloquent." He is pro-life, a partner to Israel, and always mentions God in his rallies. Biden is pro-choice and for a Catholic that is like a cardinal sin. Anyway am not letting you get away with this nonsense. That's like asking your pastors "who is the better Christian." That is ridiculous.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Why would Israel not fit into that box? I guess we should care about the Palestinians either..
That said, there are plenty of reasons to support Israel that have zero to do with Christianity. As the sole democracy in the ME, it plays a crucial role in checking Islamic fundamentalism and totalitarianism in the ME. It also acts as a significant deterrent to the nuclear ambitions of countries there. Having it as an ally has been crucial.
My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Stick to things you know about.Canada2017 said:Yeah....your natural brilliance is why she traded you out on her way up .quash said:She does. Not that your opinion matters.Canada2017 said:Don't value your intellectual acumen whatsoever ........neither does your ex.quash said:You don't. You should.Canada2017 said:Oh yes, I highly value your intellectual acumen .SSadler said:I'm a poster here and I don't know (or agree with) this.Canada2017 said:
Trump has many faults...but his policies were overwhelmingly sound.
His legislative failures were completely due to the virulent and united opposition of the Democrats.
And each and every one of the posters here knows this .
Guess that would make you presumptuous, hyperbolic, and w r o n g. (to name at least a few of your traits).
But carryon. (and for the record, on my ballot I wrote in "none of the above.")
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
I'm very familiar with what is said in Revelations. Ok, so they are not Christians, but they get a second chance. They have treated the Palestinians incredibly poorly and continue to do so and they will not negotiate in good faith. We have to keep a close eye on them as they can be slippery and always truthful or trustworthy. I do agree that the reasons for us to be an allies that you detailed is critical. There is also a huge need to keep our allies close, which Trump has absolutely bungled. He pokes our friends in the eye with a sharp stick.Mothra said:If Revelations is to be believed, Israel still has a very crucial role to play in world events in the coming years.J.R. said:Why would I care about Israel? Why would you? They don't believe Jesus is the savior which seems to be your litmus test. I thought Trump says Merca First and eff everyone else?wuzzybear said:People change. We are not bots. Jesus does not remember your sins of the past if you truly turn to Him. I don't know Trump's heart, but in politics it is "perception" that counts. If you don't give a s-h-i-t about Israel I feel sorry for you. So our discussion stops right here.J.R. said:He's conveniently pro-life. He was a pro-choice Democrat his entire life until he saw an opening to get him somewhere. I couldn't give 2 ****s about Israel. I could care less if mentions God in his Redneck Rallies as I'm fairly sure he isn't a believer. He is on video saying that "he doesn't ask God for forgiveness". Hardly Christian, there Wuzzy!! Hardly Christian.wuzzybear said:It is ludicrous to compare faiths! You are saved or you or not. Anyway, you couldn't be more wrong about TRUMP. He was not meant to be "eloquent." He is pro-life, a partner to Israel, and always mentions God in his rallies. Biden is pro-choice and for a Catholic that is like a cardinal sin. Anyway am not letting you get away with this nonsense. That's like asking your pastors "who is the better Christian." That is ridiculous.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Why would Israel not fit into that box? I guess we should care about the Palestinians either..
That said, there are plenty of reasons to support Israel that have zero to do with Christianity. As the sole democracy in the ME, it plays a crucial role in checking Islamic fundamentalism and totalitarianism in the ME. It also acts as a significant deterrent to the nuclear ambitions of countries there. Having it as an ally has been crucial.
Mothra said:Mark it down: LIQR's first critique of a Democrat politician in almost 20 years on these boards.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
I dont see him being any better.
Hope his COVID hasn't returned and he's more delusional than usual???
Don't disagree that there are misguided Christians who hold views antithetical to Christianity (see the small minority of pro-choice Christians you reference). Joe's problem is a number of the views he holds are antithetical to Christianity. He doesn't diverge from scripture simply on abortion. It's hard to know what tenets he actually believes, because he doesn't talk about those, or live his life according to them, as best I can tell.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
As between Trump and Joe, I am not attempting a moral equivalency. But I will say this about Trump - he has come out in strong support of religious rights and the right to life, which is far more than ol' Joe has ever done. In short, while he may not attend mass and say his rosary, Trump has done far more for Christians than ol' Joe has ever done.
Don't disagree on the Palestinians, but there is PLENTY of blame to go around on that one. The Palestinians have been no angels.J.R. said:I'm very familiar with what is said in Revelations. Ok, so they are not Christians, but they get a second chance. They have treated the Palestinians incredibly poorly and continue to do so and they will not negotiate in good faith. We have to keep a close eye on them as they can be slippery and always truthful or trustworthy. I do agree that the reasons for us to be an allies that you detailed is critical. There is also a huge need to keep our allies close, which Trump has absolutely bungled. He pokes our friends in the eye with a sharp stick.Mothra said:If Revelations is to be believed, Israel still has a very crucial role to play in world events in the coming years.J.R. said:Why would I care about Israel? Why would you? They don't believe Jesus is the savior which seems to be your litmus test. I thought Trump says Merca First and eff everyone else?wuzzybear said:People change. We are not bots. Jesus does not remember your sins of the past if you truly turn to Him. I don't know Trump's heart, but in politics it is "perception" that counts. If you don't give a s-h-i-t about Israel I feel sorry for you. So our discussion stops right here.J.R. said:He's conveniently pro-life. He was a pro-choice Democrat his entire life until he saw an opening to get him somewhere. I couldn't give 2 ****s about Israel. I could care less if mentions God in his Redneck Rallies as I'm fairly sure he isn't a believer. He is on video saying that "he doesn't ask God for forgiveness". Hardly Christian, there Wuzzy!! Hardly Christian.wuzzybear said:It is ludicrous to compare faiths! You are saved or you or not. Anyway, you couldn't be more wrong about TRUMP. He was not meant to be "eloquent." He is pro-life, a partner to Israel, and always mentions God in his rallies. Biden is pro-choice and for a Catholic that is like a cardinal sin. Anyway am not letting you get away with this nonsense. That's like asking your pastors "who is the better Christian." That is ridiculous.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Why would Israel not fit into that box? I guess we should care about the Palestinians either..
That said, there are plenty of reasons to support Israel that have zero to do with Christianity. As the sole democracy in the ME, it plays a crucial role in checking Islamic fundamentalism and totalitarianism in the ME. It also acts as a significant deterrent to the nuclear ambitions of countries there. Having it as an ally has been crucial.
And one more thing: if you believe Jill Biden's ex-husband, ol' Joe had an affair with her and broke up their marriage,J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Hold that thought while we see what a 6-3 SCOTUS majority can do.BearTruth13 said:wuzzybear said:
4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.
I think it is pretty clear Trump deceived you. It is really easy to get the evangelical vote nowadays. Pay lip service to pro-life movement (knowing full well you don't have the power to implement any changes) and mention God a few times at rallies.
Very uncalled for.Canada2017 said:Don't value your intellectual acumen whatsoever ........neither does your ex.quash said:You don't. You should.Canada2017 said:Oh yes, I highly value your intellectual acumen .SSadler said:I'm a poster here and I don't know (or agree with) this.Canada2017 said:
Trump has many faults...but his policies were overwhelmingly sound.
His legislative failures were completely due to the virulent and united opposition of the Democrats.
And each and every one of the posters here knows this .
Guess that would make you presumptuous, hyperbolic, and w r o n g. (to name at least a few of your traits).
But carryon. (and for the record, on my ballot I wrote in "none of the above.")
Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
Fair enough and I get your last paragraph. Unfortunately , Trump found a swath of the electorate that buys what he is selling about religion and religious freedom. Where I come from we call people like Trump ....Pimps. He's pimping out the religous right as he believes non of it, which I find just astounding.Mothra said:Don't disagree that there are misguided Christians who hold views antithetical to Christianity (see the small minority of pro-choice Christians you reference). Joe's problem is a number of the views he holds are antithetical to Christianity. He doesn't diverge from scripture simply on abortion. It's hard to know what tenets he actually believes, because he doesn't talk about those, or live his life according to them, as best I can tell.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
As between Trump and Joe, I am not attempting a moral equivalency. But I will say this about Trump - he has come out in strong support of religious rights and the right to life, which is far more than ol' Joe has ever done. In short, while he may not attend mass and say his rosary, Trump has done far more for Christians than ol' Joe has ever done.
Don't disagree....It's very complicated.Mothra said:Don't disagree on the Palestinians, but there is PLENTY of blame to go around on that one. The Palestinians have been no angels.J.R. said:I'm very familiar with what is said in Revelations. Ok, so they are not Christians, but they get a second chance. They have treated the Palestinians incredibly poorly and continue to do so and they will not negotiate in good faith. We have to keep a close eye on them as they can be slippery and always truthful or trustworthy. I do agree that the reasons for us to be an allies that you detailed is critical. There is also a huge need to keep our allies close, which Trump has absolutely bungled. He pokes our friends in the eye with a sharp stick.Mothra said:If Revelations is to be believed, Israel still has a very crucial role to play in world events in the coming years.J.R. said:Why would I care about Israel? Why would you? They don't believe Jesus is the savior which seems to be your litmus test. I thought Trump says Merca First and eff everyone else?wuzzybear said:People change. We are not bots. Jesus does not remember your sins of the past if you truly turn to Him. I don't know Trump's heart, but in politics it is "perception" that counts. If you don't give a s-h-i-t about Israel I feel sorry for you. So our discussion stops right here.J.R. said:He's conveniently pro-life. He was a pro-choice Democrat his entire life until he saw an opening to get him somewhere. I couldn't give 2 ****s about Israel. I could care less if mentions God in his Redneck Rallies as I'm fairly sure he isn't a believer. He is on video saying that "he doesn't ask God for forgiveness". Hardly Christian, there Wuzzy!! Hardly Christian.wuzzybear said:It is ludicrous to compare faiths! You are saved or you or not. Anyway, you couldn't be more wrong about TRUMP. He was not meant to be "eloquent." He is pro-life, a partner to Israel, and always mentions God in his rallies. Biden is pro-choice and for a Catholic that is like a cardinal sin. Anyway am not letting you get away with this nonsense. That's like asking your pastors "who is the better Christian." That is ridiculous.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Why would Israel not fit into that box? I guess we should care about the Palestinians either..
That said, there are plenty of reasons to support Israel that have zero to do with Christianity. As the sole democracy in the ME, it plays a crucial role in checking Islamic fundamentalism and totalitarianism in the ME. It also acts as a significant deterrent to the nuclear ambitions of countries there. Having it as an ally has been crucial.
yeah, Donny jr and Eric are just fabulous! Ivanka is bright and a go getter, but she is obviously her mother's child.Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
You are the one who blathered the story.quash said:Stick to things you know about.Canada2017 said:Yeah....your natural brilliance is why she traded you out on her way up .quash said:She does. Not that your opinion matters.Canada2017 said:Don't value your intellectual acumen whatsoever ........neither does your ex.quash said:You don't. You should.Canada2017 said:Oh yes, I highly value your intellectual acumen .SSadler said:I'm a poster here and I don't know (or agree with) this.Canada2017 said:
Trump has many faults...but his policies were overwhelmingly sound.
His legislative failures were completely due to the virulent and united opposition of the Democrats.
And each and every one of the posters here knows this .
Guess that would make you presumptuous, hyperbolic, and w r o n g. (to name at least a few of your traits).
But carryon. (and for the record, on my ballot I wrote in "none of the above.")
Sam Lowry said:Hold that thought while we see what a 6-3 SCOTUS majority can do.BearTruth13 said:wuzzybear said:
4 Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you.
I think it is pretty clear Trump deceived you. It is really easy to get the evangelical vote nowadays. Pay lip service to pro-life movement (knowing full well you don't have the power to implement any changes) and mention God a few times at rallies.
Roberts is basically a swing vote at this point. And maybe 2 or 3 of the judges on the conservative side would ever touch Roe. Maybe. Roe v Wade is unfortunately not going to change.
Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
I have. They made terrible choices and reaped what the sewed.quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
A lot has to happen before your mouth hits the crack pipe.
Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Harm reduction by creating more addicts. Oh yeah really clever.quash said:There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
There are tens of thousands of graves that are evidence of the addictive power and toxicity of heroin . You bemoan the struggles of addicts...then want to increase heroin's accessibility .
It does not get any more goofus than that .
You keep skipping over the two salient points: harm reduction and drug war.Canada2017 said:There are tens of thousands of graves that are evidence of the addictive power and toxicity of heroin . You bemoan the struggles of addicts...then want to increase heroin's accessibility .quash said:There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
It does not get any more goofus than that .
Get in the game, Skippy.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Get ****ed goofus.quash said:You keep skipping over the two salient points: harm reduction and drug war.Canada2017 said:There are tens of thousands of graves that are evidence of the addictive power and toxicity of heroin . You bemoan the struggles of addicts...then want to increase heroin's accessibility .quash said:There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
It does not get any more goofus than that .
Get in the game, Skippy.
There is no harm reduction is providing more access to heroin .
Actually there is, you've seen the evidence I provided before but you choose to ignore it. Do you really believe prohibition works?Canada2017 said:Get ****ed goofus.quash said:You keep skipping over the two salient points: harm reduction and drug war.Canada2017 said:There are tens of thousands of graves that are evidence of the addictive power and toxicity of heroin . You bemoan the struggles of addicts...then want to increase heroin's accessibility .quash said:There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
It does not get any more goofus than that .
Get in the game, Skippy.
There is no harm reduction is providing more access to heroin .
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
There is no 'evidence'. Merely one study in Portugal that a goofus like you wants to promote as gospel to millions of potential addicts here in the US. Even in Portugal the study remains very controversial as the number of addicts has risen.quash said:Actually there is, you've seen the evidence I provided before but you choose to ignore it. Do you really believe prohibition works?Canada2017 said:Get ****ed goofus.quash said:You keep skipping over the two salient points: harm reduction and drug war.Canada2017 said:There are tens of thousands of graves that are evidence of the addictive power and toxicity of heroin . You bemoan the struggles of addicts...then want to increase heroin's accessibility .quash said:There is abundant evidence of the value of harm reduction. Where is your evidence that we won the war on drugs?Canada2017 said:Bemoans the fate of addicts, then wants to provide more access to addictive narcotics .quash said:Harm reduction would decrease the problem, but keep fighting that war on drugs. You're doing aces and the state loves ya..Canada2017 said:Says the damaged goods who routinely calls for the legalization of heroin .quash said:Doc Holliday said:Weird how Biden's son turned out to be a deadbeat father addicted to crack who takes sexually explicit and inappropriate pictures of himself.J.R. said:My monolithic comment was that all Christians do no have the same views on controversial topics. I give you abortion.....I know many, many fine people and Christians who are pro-choice. My overriding point was that I'm certainly sure the ole Joe is certainly more spiritual and hold many Christian tenants dear. Trump hold nothing Christian sacred. How many abortions do you think Trump has paid for? I haven't seen ole Joe ***** chasing , having multitudes of affairs while he was married to all 3 of his wives. We have porn stars and Playboy Bunnies and god knows what else. Biden is just a much better human that Trumps.Mothra said:Not sure what you mean by "Christian views," but the central tenets of the Christian faith are indeed monolithic, founded on certain core beliefs. Absent belief in those, one is not a Christian.J.R. said:Christian views are not monolithic. I believe Joe is a good practicing Catholic. History shows that.Mothra said:Holds his faith sacred...while holding beliefs and supporting policies that are the antithesis of his Catholic faith? What an odd way to hold one's faith sacred.J.R. said:
Christian School will NOT lose accreditation . That is just non-sense. Biden, is a product of Catholic School and he holds his faith sacred. Trump has not faith, let's be honest. He holds the Bible upside down and refers the a book in the New Testament a Two Corinthians. I'd trust Biden on this score. He won't infringe on that . Trump just doesn't give a chit.
Look, you will get no argument from me on Trump. The guy conveniently used Christians to get elected. I doubt he ever steps foot in another church. But the idea that Joe is some devout Christian is absurd. Scripture says that Christians shall be known by their fruit. If Joe's fruit is any indication, he ain't Christian.
As for Joe's Catholicism, hard to argue he's a good practicing Catholic when he holds so many views contrary to the tenets of Catholicism. If by "good practicing Catholic" you mean he practices Catholic rituals and goes to mass, sure. But that doesn't make one a good practicing Catholic, much less a Christian.
Trump raised better children.
I hope you never have a loved one become a drug addict.
You couldn't be a bigger goofus if you tried .
It does not get any more goofus than that .
Get in the game, Skippy.
There is no harm reduction is providing more access to heroin .
But it makes you feel 'special' to promote such foolishness. Makes you feel 'stylish' .
Gotta luv the internet.
https://drugpolicy.org/resource/prohibition-more-dangerous
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
https://drugpolicy.org/issues/mass-criminalization
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/dec/05/portugals-radical-drugs-policy-is-working-why-hasnt-the-world-copied-it
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat