Rawhide said:
TexasScientist said:
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bubbadog said:
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Mothra said:
Trump is no longer president. Time to move on.
If this were about, say, emoluments, I would agree with you that it's best to just move on.
This is a much, much, much more serious allegation.
I do not accept this article as proof of anything. And the Russians buried people so deep for so long that I have to consider the possibility that the Russian defector who supplied a lot of information for this story may not have been a defector after all but is still working for Moscow.
But the questions raised in this story need to be examined further. There at least needs to be much more digging by the media.
The story makes no claim that Trump was getting money from Russia. But being an asset for a foreign government doesn't necessarily involve getting paid or even taking orders. Sometimes it just means getting someone to be useful to your agenda -- maybe without even realizing that they're manipulating you. Is that a plausible scenario in Trump's case? Yes.
Again, plausibility isn't proof.
But it's worth recalling here that people in Trump's own adopted party were asking these questions as recently as 5 years ago, when Kevin McCarthy told fellow Republicans that he thought Trump was on Putin's payroll.
Funny... I didn't see the media dig any further into the election fraud allegations. The fact the republican watchers were either denied access to vote counts or stuck so far away from the actual counting, covering up the windows in detroit, the numerous witness affidavits, etc...
That seemed to raise enough questions to call for further digging. Didn't see any of our resident biden supporters call for it.
I saw a lot of reporting about it.
And all the evidence was presented in court.
They didn't investigate it.
The allegations looked into and raised by the Trump campaign and the allegations were conclusively answered by state officials.
They were not investigated. Hell, they weren't even "looked into". They were ignored. From the get go.
The media didn't dig into it. Politicians ignored it. and Liberals dismissed it.
If you only listen to Fox or Newsmax. Broaden your horizons. The Secretary of States for Penn, and Georgia explained and produce evidence that refuted every 'allegation' presented. There was nothing to investigate. They went to great lengths to debunk, and debunked everything that Rudy and Sidney threw out there. In court they produced nothing.
I don't watch or listen to 24 hour cable news.
Like I said, nothing was investigated and the media did no digging.
Let me sum it up for you:
Trump: "The election was stolen"
Various Politicians: "Nuh, uh... was not"
Media: "Okay"
There was no investigation. The media did no digging. The politicians didn't want to talk about and the court didn't want to hear it. Period.
But enough about Trump since he's not in the White House anymore. When are you going to start posting BS articles about Biden? You know, since you're a Republican and everything
The problem, is in most instances, there was nothing found to investigate when it was looked into. The Georgia SOS elections administrators gave an extensive press conference where he went through each of the allegations, one by one, and explained what they found and why they were wrong. They found virtually nothing wrong, and where there was an issue the acknowledged it. For example, the Georgia SOS investigated the alleged claims of two thousand dead people voting. They only found two instances. All of the others were misinformation, based upon misunderstanding of people with the same name (someone's son) or address. Nothing significant panned out.
When Trump gets out of the Republican Party and politics, I'll shut up about him. People of conscience have to speak out against Trump and his radicals. Biden is a whole different matter and subject. So far he has not proven the existential threat to the country that Trump was. It's too early to really grade him and he deserves an opportunity to get his feet on the ground. However, so far in the very early going, I give him an A on Covid response, an incomplete on foreign policy, a B on truthfulness, and a D on domestic policy. In the end, Trump failed at almost everything, F- in truthfulness (not in his wheelhouse), foreign policy, and Covid response, and being generous, a D for domestic policy.