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JXL
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Could you give some examples of the Right going after private non-public-figure citizens like the Utah paramedic?
LIB,MR BEARS
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Buddha Bear said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Facebook, YouTube, Google, Bill Gates, the list goes on....
going by these standards, you should include abortion
Oldbear83
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Jack and DP said:

J.B.Katz said:

Jack and DP said:

J.B.Katz said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

True that sexism, misogyny and homophobia are hallmarks of posts on this board, including the junior high strategy of accusing people of being gay like grade school kids howling that someone has cooties.

Also true that any optimism about the mods cracking down on incivility and crudeness is unwarranted.

That begs the question of why Bubbadog was banned since nothing he ever posted came anywhere close to the Golem level of mean snark.


How'd you know Bubbadog got banned?
It's all over this forum.


Missed it. Why'd he get banned?
No one seems to know. We started a thread to bring him back but that got deleted, so bubba has been 'disappeared'. Even though he's never said a word I know of that would warrant it.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Malbec
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RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:

Why is a seventh grader in an alley in Chicago at 2:30 a.m. in the morning? Where the **ck were his parents?
This 13-year old boy IS the reason parents tell their children not to be on the streets at 2:30AM.
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
LIB,MR BEARS
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Oldbear83 said:

Jack and DP said:

J.B.Katz said:

Jack and DP said:

J.B.Katz said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

True that sexism, misogyny and homophobia are hallmarks of posts on this board, including the junior high strategy of accusing people of being gay like grade school kids howling that someone has cooties.

Also true that any optimism about the mods cracking down on incivility and crudeness is unwarranted.

That begs the question of why Bubbadog was banned since nothing he ever posted came anywhere close to the Golem level of mean snark.


How'd you know Bubbadog got banned?
It's all over this forum.


Missed it. Why'd he get banned?
No one seems to know. We started a thread to bring him back but that got deleted, so bubba has been 'disappeared'. Even though he's never said a word I know of that would warrant it.
he pm'd me that he had dirt on Hillary Clinton and was going to get back to me shortly with the info.
TexasScientist
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
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'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
ShooterTX
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Quote:

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
Exactly.
People who attend Trump rallies have been targeted by leftist cancel culture, and lost their jobs, businesses, been harassed in public, subject to IRS audits, etc.

I'm glad you are starting to see the truth.
ShooterTX
quash
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Canon said:

Buddha Bear said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Facebook, YouTube, Google, Bill Gates, the list goes on....
To 'cancel' someone or something, one must have the ability to do so - to affect actual harm to that person or institution. Simply saying "I don't like that" isn't canceling, as the term is used and understood today. One must have the power, either individually or in a mob, to destroy. The cultural institutions (arts, media, etc), commercial institutions (social media, airlines, automotive, etc) and (pseudo) educational institutions are run monolithically by the left and the politics of personal destruction goes in one direction - from the left toward everyone else.

Trying to couch someone saying "I don't like being targeted so I am not going to watch that movie or that game or buy that product" is not cancel culture. It's patently absurd to claim it is. Cancel culture is when Google and Facebook and Twitter and Amazon team up to shut down a person or a movement or when they form a cartel to shut down new venues that would host the people and movements they already canceled. Cancel culture requires institutional power and/or a mob most often backed by institutional power. No similar institutional power exists for exercise on the right. Where the right has attempted to form a nexus around where it can coalesce, the left has canceled them or tried to, with Democrat politicians going so far as to call for the shutting down of Fox news and telling BLM mobs to physically confront idealogical opposition in the streets. That is cancel culture,

The attempts to usurp explanatory terms defining the left and ridiculously try and turn the around is comically sad. It's also extraordinarily telling that the left feels the need to try and change the definitions of even these newer and very specifically descriptive terms. They understand that one of their best weapons is simply to change definitions to suit their narrative. This is just more of the same.
I'm confused. You define cancel in such a s way as to exclude anything that fails to actually shutdown the target.

And then you turn right around and say that calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture.

First, calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture. To me.

Second, it has not succeeded. Therefore it is not cancel culture. To you.

It appears that you apply your definition differently depending on how it affects your team.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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JXL said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Could you give some examples of the Right going after private non-public-figure citizens like the Utah paramedic?
Sure. My grandfather was blacklisted for assisting in the formation of credit unions aiding Native Americans, Blacks, and Hispanics. He was a non-public figure.

But I think the size of the target matters if we are talking about the size of the shared attempts at cancel culture. We wouldn't be having this discussion if it were about one non-public citizen.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
quash
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Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
Oldbear83
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
I see your reading skills are in decline, quash, so I will post it again even though you included it in your own post:

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
ShooterTX
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quash said:

Canon said:

Buddha Bear said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Facebook, YouTube, Google, Bill Gates, the list goes on....
To 'cancel' someone or something, one must have the ability to do so - to affect actual harm to that person or institution. Simply saying "I don't like that" isn't canceling, as the term is used and understood today. One must have the power, either individually or in a mob, to destroy. The cultural institutions (arts, media, etc), commercial institutions (social media, airlines, automotive, etc) and (pseudo) educational institutions are run monolithically by the left and the politics of personal destruction goes in one direction - from the left toward everyone else.

Trying to couch someone saying "I don't like being targeted so I am not going to watch that movie or that game or buy that product" is not cancel culture. It's patently absurd to claim it is. Cancel culture is when Google and Facebook and Twitter and Amazon team up to shut down a person or a movement or when they form a cartel to shut down new venues that would host the people and movements they already canceled. Cancel culture requires institutional power and/or a mob most often backed by institutional power. No similar institutional power exists for exercise on the right. Where the right has attempted to form a nexus around where it can coalesce, the left has canceled them or tried to, with Democrat politicians going so far as to call for the shutting down of Fox news and telling BLM mobs to physically confront idealogical opposition in the streets. That is cancel culture,

The attempts to usurp explanatory terms defining the left and ridiculously try and turn the around is comically sad. It's also extraordinarily telling that the left feels the need to try and change the definitions of even these newer and very specifically descriptive terms. They understand that one of their best weapons is simply to change definitions to suit their narrative. This is just more of the same.
I'm confused. You define cancel in such a s way as to exclude anything that fails to actually shutdown the target.

And then you turn right around and say that calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture.

First, calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture. To me.

Second, it has not succeeded. Therefore it is not cancel culture. To you.

It appears that you apply your definition differently depending on how it affects your team.

The examples of right wing attacks on FB, YouTube, Google, etc are very different than what is being attempted with Fox News.

The right wanted to take away the protections which allow the tech giants to use their power to silence & cancel political speech. Those protections are intended for platforms which will encourage & support free speech, not for publishers which will edit or screen content based upon ideology. It is the difference between being a platform and a publisher. Example: Twitter wouldn't allow anyone to post information about Hunter Biden's laptop, because they claimed it was stolen data and unverified information. Yet Twitter had no problem at all with the thousands of posts about Trump\Russia, even though there was no evidence that the info was accurate, and plenty of evidence that the info was often fabricated. Even Twitter had to finally admit that the Hunter Biden laptop stories were true... but only months after the story broke, and months after the election.

The attacks on Fox News are not designed to protect free speech, but (again) to silence political speech which is opposed to a certain ideology. The left is not attempting to open Fox News up to opposing viewpoints, but instead is calling for the FCC to shutdown the network entirely. That is very, very different than what was attempted with the tech giants.

Similarly, there have been calls by the right to boycott corporations. A boycott is not the same as a "cancellation". A boycott is attempting to use the free market, to dry up the revenues & profits of a business. Boycotts almost never work. Example: the leftists called for a boycott of Chik-fil-a, and the result was an overwhelming support for the business, which propelled it into record sales, expansion & profits.
Now the left has abandoned boycotts in favor of cancellations... which usually involve some form of government power, and ALWAYS involve leveraging the power of traditional & social media... both of which are wholly owned & controlled by the left.

The right has not called for the government to shutdown FB, YouTube, Google... but has instead called for the government to open-up those businesses to allow for more free speech. The funny thing is that allowing for more free speech would actually generate more traffic and higher profits, especially for YouTube.

Cancel culture is about destroying lives, business, organizations, churches... for the purpose of silencing opposition to a leftist ideology. The right does not engage in silencing. The right engages in debate and challenges opposing ideologies in this manner.

The left OWNS cancel culture. They want to silence voices of opposition on the right, and they will destroy as many lives as necessary to accomplish that goal.
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quash said:

Canon said:

Buddha Bear said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Facebook, YouTube, Google, Bill Gates, the list goes on....
To 'cancel' someone or something, one must have the ability to do so - to affect actual harm to that person or institution. Simply saying "I don't like that" isn't canceling, as the term is used and understood today. One must have the power, either individually or in a mob, to destroy. The cultural institutions (arts, media, etc), commercial institutions (social media, airlines, automotive, etc) and (pseudo) educational institutions are run monolithically by the left and the politics of personal destruction goes in one direction - from the left toward everyone else.

Trying to couch someone saying "I don't like being targeted so I am not going to watch that movie or that game or buy that product" is not cancel culture. It's patently absurd to claim it is. Cancel culture is when Google and Facebook and Twitter and Amazon team up to shut down a person or a movement or when they form a cartel to shut down new venues that would host the people and movements they already canceled. Cancel culture requires institutional power and/or a mob most often backed by institutional power. No similar institutional power exists for exercise on the right. Where the right has attempted to form a nexus around where it can coalesce, the left has canceled them or tried to, with Democrat politicians going so far as to call for the shutting down of Fox news and telling BLM mobs to physically confront idealogical opposition in the streets. That is cancel culture,

The attempts to usurp explanatory terms defining the left and ridiculously try and turn the around is comically sad. It's also extraordinarily telling that the left feels the need to try and change the definitions of even these newer and very specifically descriptive terms. They understand that one of their best weapons is simply to change definitions to suit their narrative. This is just more of the same.
I'm confused. You define cancel in such a s way as to exclude anything that fails to actually shutdown the target.

And then you turn right around and say that calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture.

First, calling for the shutdown of Fox news is cancel culture. To me.

Second, it has not succeeded. Therefore it is not cancel culture. To you.

It appears that you apply your definition differently depending on how it affects your team.


You redefine having power to always exercising that power. It's a good try.
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
Boycott v. cancel
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quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
To me there are two main differences between canceling and traditional boycotts.

1. Canceling targets people rather than policies or products. For example, Brendan Eich was forced to resign from Firefox because of his political opinions, which had nothing to do with Firefox. Contrast this with Colin Kaepernick, whose controversial behavior occurred on the job.

2. Canceling is punitive rather than redemptive. If Coca-Cola supports Planned Parenthood, I can stop drinking Coke. When they stop donating, I start drinking it again. Problem solved. In contrast, Roseanne Barr posts one controversial tweet and she's gone forever. Nothing can fix it, no matter how much she apologizes.

You may say this is just the market at work. I'd like to see the market research on these decisions, because I don't think it exists. But more important, the fact that it may be market-based doesn't mean it isn't harmful. A culture that doesn't value free speech won't see it protected for long.
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Cops playing judge and jury again.

Traffic camera footage shared by KARE11 showed the suspect leaping out of the still-moving stolen car, then running into the road and seemingly pointing his gun at an approaching SUV before he was shot by "multiple" pursuing officers, police said.

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Sam Lowry said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
To me there are two mains differences between canceling and traditional boycotts.

1. Canceling targets people rather than policies or products. For example, Brendan Eich was forced to resign from Firefox because of his political opinions, which had nothing to do with Firefox. Contrast this with Colin Kaepernick, whose controversial behavior occurred on the job.

2. Canceling is punitive rather than redemptive. If Coca-Cola supports Planned Parenthood, I can stop drinking Coke. When they stop donating, I start drinking it again. Problem solved. In contrast, Roseanne Barr posts one controversial tweet and she's gone forever. Nothing can fix it, no matter how much she apologizes.

You may say this is just the market at work. I'd like to see the market research on these decisions, because I don't think it exists. But more important, the fact that it may be market-based doesn't mean it isn't harmful. A culture that doesn't value free speech won't see it protected for long.
1. So you'd agree that the McCarthy-era blacklisting was cancel culture. And thanks for bringing up Kaep, as he never did get another job.

What are your thoughts on Con. Greene? She claims that her free speech rights are being cancelled even as she holds a press conference covered by all the major news outlets. And then there's her appearances on podcasts, and TV shows, and her following on Twitter (where the marketplace of ideas has proclaimed hers as less valuable since her election: down from 735,000 to 396,00). My news updates for the last two days are all about her Anglo Saxon Caucus.

The theme of this year's CPAC convention was "Uncanceling America". They cancelled Young Pharoah three days before their convention. Literally. Or, as he put it "Basically I'm being censored."

But let's talk about why targeting policies is not canceling. If the Right targets Black votes, is taking away that privilege OK because it has no effect on their job? Is that hill you want to die on?

And about that lawsuit by the My Pillow guy against (checks notes) Fox.

2. You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken.

Boycotts make me feel good. That's it. If I want to make a real difference I buycott; just yesterday I went to Michaels when Booty Looty was closer.

I don't have any market research but The Dixie Chicks lost their spot on hundreds of radio stations. They have jobs now. As The Chicks. I don't know anything about their current airplay and you couldn't compare anyway because some groups lose their audience and never get it back. I understand Air Supply is out on tour but I don't think they're still the world's most successful group. (I never thought they were but that's how their press went.)

I do know that we no longer have ads for a weepy wife in the kitchen with smoke coming from the skillet being comforted by a husband with "At least you didn't burn the beer." Or ads for a food processor that says it does everything but the cooking, "That's what wives are for." Markets do respond to consumers.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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Sam Lowry said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
To me there are two mains differences between canceling and traditional boycotts.

1. Canceling targets people rather than policies or products. For example, Brendan Eich was forced to resign from Firefox because of his political opinions, which had nothing to do with Firefox. Contrast this with Colin Kaepernick, whose controversial behavior occurred on the job.

2. Canceling is punitive rather than redemptive. If Coca-Cola supports Planned Parenthood, I can stop drinking Coke. When they stop donating, I start drinking it again. Problem solved. In contrast, Roseanne Barr posts one controversial tweet and she's gone forever. Nothing can fix it, no matter how much she apologizes.

You may say this is just the market at work. I'd like to see the market research on these decisions, because I don't think it exists. But more important, the fact that it may be market-based doesn't mean it isn't harmful. A culture that doesn't value free speech won't see it protected for long.
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" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.
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Oldbear83 said:

" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.


At this point quash is just throwing s*** against the wall desperate for something to stick...he does that quite a bit.
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SIC EM 94 said:

Oldbear83 said:

" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.


At this point quash is just throwing s*** against the wall desperate for something to stick...he does that quite a bit.


Quash is actually one of the more thoughtful posters on this board, so unless you want the queen of the "liberal" word salad back (me), I'd suggest engaging with him/her with a little more respect - comes from a neutral POV from what I have seen.

I don't agree with all if it, but that's what makes it healthy & the discussion more productive, versus waving off anything you don't like with disrespect.
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saykay said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Oldbear83 said:

" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.


At this point quash is just throwing s*** against the wall desperate for something to stick...he does that quite a bit.

... so unless you want the queen of the "liberal" word salad back (me), I'd suggest engaging with him/her with a little more respect - comes from a neutral POV from what I have seen.


Ladies and gentlemen, they/them is/are threatening a first degree, non-consensual Textual Assault, while suffering from grammatical dysentery. I'd recommend placing they/them on a Text Offender Registry and keeping your distance.
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Canon said:

saykay said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Oldbear83 said:

" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.


At this point quash is just throwing s*** against the wall desperate for something to stick...he does that quite a bit.

... so unless you want the queen of the "liberal" word salad back (me), I'd suggest engaging with him/her with a little more respect - comes from a neutral POV from what I have seen.


Ladies and gentlemen, they/them is/are threatening a first degree, non-consensual Textual Assault, while suffering from grammatical dysentery. I'd recommend placing they/them on a Text Offender Registry and keeping your distance.


Aww, sweetie, have you been saving that one up for my return all weekend? I'm sorry to have kept you waiting for so long.
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saykay said:

SIC EM 94 said:

Oldbear83 said:

" You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken."

Both were cancelled by the Left, as I recall. Franken was 'got' by the #MeToo movement, not the GOP.

The GOP was glad to benefit from Franken's fall, but they did not push him to his removal.


At this point quash is just throwing s*** against the wall desperate for something to stick...he does that quite a bit.


Quash is actually one of the more thoughtful posters on this board, so unless you want the queen of the "liberal" word salad back (me), I'd suggest engaging with him/her with a little more respect - comes from a neutral POV from what I have seen.

I don't agree with all if it, but that's what makes it healthy & the discussion more productive, versus waving off anything you don't like with disrespect.
Quash is sometimes thoughtful, but he also sometimes gets butthurt and resorts to emotional posts with zero content.

That is, quash is human.
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ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
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'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
Exactly.
People who attend Trump rallies have been targeted by leftist cancel culture, and lost their jobs, businesses, been harassed in public, subject to IRS audits, etc.

I'm glad you are starting to see the truth.

I'm glad you recognize it goes both ways. Although, I don't know of anyone who the IRS went after for attending a Trump rally. Maybe you were audited for other reasons.
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TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
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'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
Exactly.
People who attend Trump rallies have been targeted by leftist cancel culture, and lost their jobs, businesses, been harassed in public, subject to IRS audits, etc.

I'm glad you are starting to see the truth.

I'm glad you recognize it goes both ways. Although, I don't know of anyone who the IRS went after for attending a Trump rally. Maybe you were audited for other reasons.
Speaking of the IRS, maybe you forgot this ?

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups



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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Quote:

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
Exactly.
People who attend Trump rallies have been targeted by leftist cancel culture, and lost their jobs, businesses, been harassed in public, subject to IRS audits, etc.

I'm glad you are starting to see the truth.

I'm glad you recognize it goes both ways. Although, I don't know of anyone who the IRS went after for attending a Trump rally. Maybe you were audited for other reasons.
Speaking of the IRS, maybe you forgot this ?

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups




Was that a for attending a Trump rally?
Oldbear83
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TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

TexasScientist said:

ShooterTX said:

TexasScientist said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Quote:

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
Like a Trump rally!
Exactly.
People who attend Trump rallies have been targeted by leftist cancel culture, and lost their jobs, businesses, been harassed in public, subject to IRS audits, etc.

I'm glad you are starting to see the truth.

I'm glad you recognize it goes both ways. Although, I don't know of anyone who the IRS went after for attending a Trump rally. Maybe you were audited for other reasons.
Speaking of the IRS, maybe you forgot this ?

https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/560308997/irs-apologizes-for-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups




Was that a for attending a Trump rally?
Same spirit. Nice try to divert, but same spirit, so relevant.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Sam Lowry
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quash said:

Sam Lowry said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
To me there are two mains differences between canceling and traditional boycotts.

1. Canceling targets people rather than policies or products. For example, Brendan Eich was forced to resign from Firefox because of his political opinions, which had nothing to do with Firefox. Contrast this with Colin Kaepernick, whose controversial behavior occurred on the job.

2. Canceling is punitive rather than redemptive. If Coca-Cola supports Planned Parenthood, I can stop drinking Coke. When they stop donating, I start drinking it again. Problem solved. In contrast, Roseanne Barr posts one controversial tweet and she's gone forever. Nothing can fix it, no matter how much she apologizes.

You may say this is just the market at work. I'd like to see the market research on these decisions, because I don't think it exists. But more important, the fact that it may be market-based doesn't mean it isn't harmful. A culture that doesn't value free speech won't see it protected for long.
1. So you'd agree that the McCarthy-era blacklisting was cancel culture. And thanks for bringing up Kaep, as he never did get another job.

What are your thoughts on Con. Greene? She claims that her free speech rights are being cancelled even as she holds a press conference covered by all the major news outlets. And then there's her appearances on podcasts, and TV shows, and her following on Twitter (where the marketplace of ideas has proclaimed hers as less valuable since her election: down from 735,000 to 396,00). My news updates for the last two days are all about her Anglo Saxon Caucus.

The theme of this year's CPAC convention was "Uncanceling America". They cancelled Young Pharoah three days before their convention. Literally. Or, as he put it "Basically I'm being censored."

But let's talk about why targeting policies is not canceling. If the Right targets Black votes, is taking away that privilege OK because it has no effect on their job? Is that hill you want to die on?

And about that lawsuit by the My Pillow guy against (checks notes) Fox.

2. You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken.

Boycotts make me feel good. That's it. If I want to make a real difference I buycott; just yesterday I went to Michaels when Booty Looty was closer.

I don't have any market research but The Dixie Chicks lost their spot on hundreds of radio stations. They have jobs now. As The Chicks. I don't know anything about their current airplay and you couldn't compare anyway because some groups lose their audience and never get it back. I understand Air Supply is out on tour but I don't think they're still the world's most successful group. (I never thought they were but that's how their press went.)

I do know that we no longer have ads for a weepy wife in the kitchen with smoke coming from the skillet being comforted by a husband with "At least you didn't burn the beer." Or ads for a food processor that says it does everything but the cooking, "That's what wives are for." Markets do respond to consumers.
Some of those are complicated. As a beneficiary of Section 230, Twitter in my opinion should have viewpoint-neutral moderation. Greene is rightly subject to scrutiny because she's a lunatic who could potentially incite violence. On the other hand, she is an elected representative, and people have a right to hear what she says. In any case I don't think she's been banned, so it's not really an issue. She was censored a couple of times by mistake, and she seems to be playing it up for attention.

Congress has no business censoring Hollywood, but they do have a legitimate interest in investigating Russian propaganda efforts. Without doing a lot of research, I suspect HUAC was started for good reasons but turned into something unjust.

I don't think anyone would have a real problem with Kaep tweeting support for BLM or whatever else he's into. The problem is what he does at game time. His conduct during the anthem is part of his performance and of the whole package the league is selling to the viewer. One of the things that's valuable about sports is that it gives different people the chance to enjoy something together regardless of politics. He got a reaction because he didn't respect that.

From what I know about Young Pharaoh and MyPillow, I don't see any legit grievance on their part. CPAC and Fox aren't open forums. They decide what they want to present.

Franken's issue was one of character and fitness for office. There are no such requirements for entertainers, nor should there be.

I'm really not sure what to think about the Dixie Chicks controversy. It qualifies as a traditional boycott under my definition, but it's also disturbing because art inherently has a political dimension that football doesn't have. At least the reaction seems to have been driven by the fans and not some corporate authority deciding what's acceptable and not.
quash
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Sam Lowry said:

quash said:

Sam Lowry said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.

Seriously?

First off, none of the corporations listed suffered a whit. The Dixie Chicks insulted their own fan base.

You really don't understand what 'cancelling' is, if you think any public displeasure is 'cancelling'.

'Cancelling' is the effort to attack specific individuals and deprive them of their employment, drive them out of business, and harass them into silence. None of your 'examples' is in the same county as real cancel efforts.
I see you've chosen the canon definition: if it didn't work it ain't cancel culture.
To me there are two mains differences between canceling and traditional boycotts.

1. Canceling targets people rather than policies or products. For example, Brendan Eich was forced to resign from Firefox because of his political opinions, which had nothing to do with Firefox. Contrast this with Colin Kaepernick, whose controversial behavior occurred on the job.

2. Canceling is punitive rather than redemptive. If Coca-Cola supports Planned Parenthood, I can stop drinking Coke. When they stop donating, I start drinking it again. Problem solved. In contrast, Roseanne Barr posts one controversial tweet and she's gone forever. Nothing can fix it, no matter how much she apologizes.

You may say this is just the market at work. I'd like to see the market research on these decisions, because I don't think it exists. But more important, the fact that it may be market-based doesn't mean it isn't harmful. A culture that doesn't value free speech won't see it protected for long.
1. So you'd agree that the McCarthy-era blacklisting was cancel culture. And thanks for bringing up Kaep, as he never did get another job.

What are your thoughts on Con. Greene? She claims that her free speech rights are being cancelled even as she holds a press conference covered by all the major news outlets. And then there's her appearances on podcasts, and TV shows, and her following on Twitter (where the marketplace of ideas has proclaimed hers as less valuable since her election: down from 735,000 to 396,00). My news updates for the last two days are all about her Anglo Saxon Caucus.

The theme of this year's CPAC convention was "Uncanceling America". They cancelled Young Pharoah three days before their convention. Literally. Or, as he put it "Basically I'm being censored."

But let's talk about why targeting policies is not canceling. If the Right targets Black votes, is taking away that privilege OK because it has no effect on their job? Is that hill you want to die on?

And about that lawsuit by the My Pillow guy against (checks notes) Fox.

2. You say Roseanne Barr I say Sen. Franken.

Boycotts make me feel good. That's it. If I want to make a real difference I buycott; just yesterday I went to Michaels when Booty Looty was closer.

I don't have any market research but The Dixie Chicks lost their spot on hundreds of radio stations. They have jobs now. As The Chicks. I don't know anything about their current airplay and you couldn't compare anyway because some groups lose their audience and never get it back. I understand Air Supply is out on tour but I don't think they're still the world's most successful group. (I never thought they were but that's how their press went.)

I do know that we no longer have ads for a weepy wife in the kitchen with smoke coming from the skillet being comforted by a husband with "At least you didn't burn the beer." Or ads for a food processor that says it does everything but the cooking, "That's what wives are for." Markets do respond to consumers.
Some of those are complicated. As a beneficiary of Section 230, Twitter in my opinion should have viewpoint-neutral moderation. Greene is rightly subject to scrutiny because she's a lunatic who could potentially incite violence. On the other hand, she is an elected representative, and people have a right to hear what she says. In any case I don't think she's been banned, so it's not really an issue. She was censored a couple of times by mistake, and she seems to be playing it up for attention.

Congress has no business censoring Hollywood, but they do have a legitimate interest in investigating Russian propaganda efforts. Without doing a lot of research, I suspect HUAC was started for good reasons but turned into something unjust.

I don't think anyone would have a real problem with Kaep tweeting support for BLM or whatever else he's into. The problem is what he does at game time. His conduct during the anthem is part of his performance and of the whole package the league is selling to the viewer. One of the things that's valuable about sports is that it gives different people the chance to enjoy something together regardless of politics. He got a reaction because he didn't respect that.

From what I know about Young Pharaoh and MyPillow, I don't see any legit grievance on their part. CPAC and Fox aren't open forums. They decide what they want to present.

Franken's issue was one of character and fitness for office. There are no such requirements for entertainers, nor should there be.

I'm really not sure what to think about the Dixie Chicks controversy. It qualifies as a traditional boycott under my definition, but it's also disturbing because art inherently has a political dimension that football doesn't have. At least the reaction seems to have been driven by the fans and not some corporate authority deciding what's acceptable and not.


Thanks for your response
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JXL said:

quash said:

Oldbear83 said:

quash said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

quash said:

saykay said:

Canon said:

GShack said:

BearN said:

And once again, this person is making up quotes, taking screenshots off this message board, and based on the comments, doing her best to make sure some Baylor fans will never be members on this site.






Jinx in the comments


Skimmed the thread and it makes one wonder: At which drag queen story hour did that group of people first meet one another? Were they all wearing their custom knitted pink p***y hats at the time? Do the men in the thread accuse themselves of mansplaining or do they ask the (identify as) women to do it for them? When only on line, do they still snap their approval and yell out 'SLAY QUEEN!!!' at the appropriate screen name? So many questions.


This one will be a post-sober delete for sure. Only a question of how long it takes you, or if the mods get there first.

But if not, pretty cool to know the P word is now fair game on the free boards. I think it's safe to say we're finally as fast & loose as the public schools... you guys can go to Sunday School tomorrow with a little extra swag in your step.


Why in the world would the mods take that down?

You're in the sandbox, a lot of things are fair ****ing game.

Not in the eyes of the cancel culture. If they don't agree, it should come down.


Cancel culture is bipartisan, always has been.

Keep telling yourself it's the same on each side, if it helps you sleep at night.


Let's see what the right has cancelled: Ford, GM, Dixie Chicks, Hollywood, NFL, NBA, and now baseball. That's a short list, btw.



Could you give some examples of the Right going after private non-public-figure citizens like the Utah paramedic?
The Trump right tried to cancel an entire election.
Mothra
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Amy Pagitt said:

WHY DOES IT MATTER?! He turned around with his hands up, and THEN he was shot. Good grief, will none of you ever just say "THIS WAS WRONG. POLICE ARE NOT JUDGES AND JURIES. THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND WE SHOULD *ALL* WANT TO FIX IT." I promise it won't turn you into a lib just to admit that there are some really terrible police officers and the first sensible thing would be for their bad behavior to stop being covered up and explained away. SHEESH.
It is worth noting that even liberal stalwarts like Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo believe the shooting was justified:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/don-lemon-defends-officer-adam-toledo-shooting-not-all-police-shootings-are-same-082648436.html

In short, these things aren't nearly as black and white as you suggest. Prejudging this officer as a murderer before all of the facts and evidence come out and due process takes its course, and then running to twitter and suggesting those who disagree with your rush to judgment are racist or un-Christian seems antithetical to your purported Christian beliefs.

The bottom line is there are judges and juries who look at these issues and decide accountability. An example of the system working took place yesterday. We agree that police officers are not judges and juries, but neither are you. I suggest we let real judges and juries decide this officer's guilt instead of rushing to judgment on a limited set of facts.
 
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