Interesting that the name of the cop that shot and killed unarmed Babbitt has never been released yet the name of the cop that shot and killed the knife wielding sixteen year-old in Ohio was released immediately. Things that make you go Hmmmmmm.Redbrickbear said:
https://tv.gab.com/channel/daxxone/view/ashli-babbitts-husband-from-this-mornings-608b1de7a156af7d979dcbcd
Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just send me a PM when you get closer to finalizing your travel plans.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
See you later this month and we can protest to try to balance it out.
Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
"Mostly peaceful" protesters. Babbitt was attempting to crawl through an open window. She lost her life. Had George Floyd complied and and gotten in the squad car without resisting, he probably could have been home in time for a late dinner. YOU PEOPLE never cease to amaze me.C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
Complete and utter BS.C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
What makes civilian legislators so valuable? How are they to be so urgently protected that a law enforcement official shoots her in the left shoulder when he could nearly reach out and push her back through the broken window?Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
No it isn't. Forcible entry into a restricted area by violence, nobody knew what was in her backpack because she didn't submit it to X-ray examination.ATL Bear said:Complete and utter BS.C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
Congress was fulfilling a Constitutional duty. The insurrection tried to stop it by violent means.Sam Lowry said:I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
I'm speaking to the insurrection comment. I'm okay that they shot someone during violent forcible entry. I'd feel the same way if it was security at home or a business.Osodecentx said:No it isn't. Forcible entry into a restricted area by violence, nobody knew what was in her backpack because she didn't submit it to X-ray examination.ATL Bear said:Complete and utter BS.C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
I'm sorry she died. I wish she had survived
It was a violent riot.Osodecentx said:Congress was fulfilling a Constitutional duty. The insurrection tried to stop it by violent means.Sam Lowry said:I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
How could anyone know the woman was unarmed?
That was not violent. That was Tiny Tim, Pee Wee Herman violence.ATL Bear said:
It was a violent riot.
There was no money to be made nor was there an opportunity to guilt America. Only race baiting gets noticed now.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Apparently the shooting of the women climbing through a window didnt inspire people to protest.
Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
Did you protest?
Osodecentx said:Congress was fulfilling a Constitutional duty. The insurrection tried to stop it by violent means.Sam Lowry said:I don't think the politicians are more important, but the Capitol police have taken on a duty to protect them. The risk to their own lives isn't their only immediate concern like it is for an LEO defending an empty courthouse. That's part of what this officer had to consider when he saw the likelihood of that door being breached and all those men getting through.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Agree with your first two sentences. Blue star. But I do not agree that elected officials lives are more important than the lives of those in law enforcement. All lives matter.Sam Lowry said:I wouldn't have shed any tears over it. IMO they've been very lenient with both sides. The Capitol riot was probably a little more urgent situation since civilian legislators were at risk.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Seems to me some federal buildings and law enforcement buildings were "breached" in the past year. Why were none of those unarmed protesters gunned down?Sam Lowry said:They were not able to enter without the doorway being breached. That's what the officer prevented.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So this unarmed woman of small stature was more of a threat than the couple of dozen much larger men that were trying to enter? Try again.Sam Lowry said:It's not okay to fire indiscriminately, but if a person presents an immediate threat, sure.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:So it is okay to open fire on unarmed, dangerous mobs? Ummm....okay. Is that your final answer?Sam Lowry said:It doesn't matter that she was unarmed. She was breaching an area that was the last line of defense between the legislature and a dangerous mob. The officer acted properly.RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Dude. Ashley Babbitt had no weapon. She was unarmed. What happened at the Capitol was a far cry from "Domestic Terrorism". Her crime apparently was trying to crawl through a broken window. To take a play from the Democrats, it was a " mostly peaceful" protest. There has been no insurrection in the United States since the Civil War. Not yet anyway.cms186 said:Neither deserved to die, but George Floyd was engaged in passing a fake $20 bill and killed whilst in custody whilst posing no threat, Ashli Babbitt was engaged in Domestic Terrorism and was killed in an act of Self DefenceRD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Once again, I am not justifying her conduct. Just pointing out another huge double-standard in our U.S. justice system.
How could anyone know the woman was unarmed?
They didn't need guns for the insurrection they had planned. And no, it's not unusual at all. The Turkish government suspended thousands of police on suspicion of aiding the failed coup a few years ago.Canon said:C. Jordan said:Don't you see here was a huge difference in these situations?RD2WINAGNBEAR86 said:Just wondering why there were no protests and riots when the unarmed white woman was shot to death by the black policemen? Although Babbitt appeared to not be a nice person, doesn't her life matter? George Floyd was a career criminal and yet the country almost burned down when he was murdered.Limited IQ Redneck in PU said:
One is a federal officer and one works for a local police department. Different local departments handle the release of info differently.. No reason to hhhhmmmmm unless you just like to hhhmmmmm.
Just questioning the disparity in the treatment and reactions of the deaths of two people where neither deserved to die.
Babbit was a participant in an insurrection to overthrow the government and was a short distance from attacking our congressional leaders. She pushed through a window though which she could see guns drawn on the other side.
Floyd wasn't attacking anyone and was completely subdued.
How can you not see the disparity between these situations? They're in no way comparable.
Hogwash. How many guns did the 'insurrectionists' of this supposed "insurrection" bring into the building with which to undertake said insurrection? How man police did these 'insurrectionists' kill in this "insurrection?" Is it a tactic of insurrectionists to take smiling selfies with their police opposition in the hallways of the battlefield? Is it unusual for insurrectionists to be ushered into/onto the battlefield by police officers?