Abbott now accepting donations to help build the Texas border wall

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boognish_bear
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
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boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
Such as the grid for starters. Abbott is clearly not interested in actual governing.
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PartyBear said:

boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
Such as the grid for starters. Abbott is clearly not interested in actual governing.
I gave him some benefit of the doubt early in the pandemic, but he's become a full-on Trump sycophant in the last year. He's been far more interested in playing and appealing to that base than leading, and it has shown.
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boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
There's also the eminent domain issue.

Trumplicans did not come off as the part of individual rights when they started commandeerig ppls property along the border to build this wall.
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J.B.Katz said:

boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
There's also the eminent domain issue.

Trumplicans did not come off as the part of individual rights when they started commandeerig ppls property along the border to build this wall.
You mean taking of private land for just compensation to build a public work when building the wall? That would be opposed to allowing thousands of people to enter illegally, trespass on farms, homes, and private businesses, and destroy crops and private property without actually paying the people for the loss incurred?

It all comes down to values. Your values say let people enter unabated and allow them to violate the personal and property rights of others after their illegal entry. The other set of values, which you reject, say pay the people for a portion of the land to protect the personal and property rights of the many. We all have choices to make and you made yours. it just costs other people their money and use of their property, but at least you feel good about yourself.
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.
Don't worry, they'll print more.
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J.B.Katz said:

boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
There's also the eminent domain issue.

Trumplicans did not come off as the part of individual rights when they started commandeerig ppls property along the border to build this wall.
eminent domain used to build a mall, not so good...

eminent domain used to provide better security for our border, no so bad...
LIB,MR BEARS
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BaylorOkie said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.
Don't worry, they'll print more.
very true
tombeaux
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Our grandchildren will go to museums and see pieces of this stupid wall on display, then look up at their parents and ask, "Were grandma and grandpa stupid?"
Amal Shuq-Up
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tombeaux said:

Our grandchildren will go to museums and see pieces of this stupid wall on display, then look up at their parents and ask, "Were grandma and grandpa stupid?"


Will they call you stupid in English or Spanish?
tombeaux
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Carlos Cruz said:

tombeaux said:

Our grandchildren will go to museums and see pieces of this stupid wall on display, then look up at their parents and ask, "Were grandma and grandpa stupid?"


Will they call you stupid in English or Spanish?


Neither. The wall fetish won't fare well over time.
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tombeaux said:

Carlos Cruz said:

tombeaux said:

Our grandchildren will go to museums and see pieces of this stupid wall on display, then look up at their parents and ask, "Were grandma and grandpa stupid?"


Will they call you stupid in English or Spanish?


Neither. The wall fetish won't fare well over time.
The Chinese and their wall say otherwise.
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tombeaux said:

Our grandchildren will go to museums and see pieces of this stupid wall on display, then look up at their parents and ask, "Were grandma and grandpa stupid?"
In reality the USA global empire might not even exist by the time any of your fictitious grandchildren show up.
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ScruffyD said:

What do we do right?



Property taxes are out of control.


You can fund a state government two ways: either have high income taxes or high property taxes.

The other way is cut government spending....but that will never happen.

I prefer high taxes on property. It insures that even people with a low valued homes ($100,000) still pay something. Those who move to larger and larger home pay even more.

Income taxes are always gamed/rigged. The super rich never pay and the lower income end up being exempted in most cases.

https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2017/06/01/the-super-rich-are-different-they-pay-less-tax

https://www.moneytips.com/how-the-mega-rich-avoid-paying-taxes



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J.B.Katz said:

boognish_bear said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

That price tells me it is a colossal waste of money. I'm all for a wall and increased border security with controlled immigration but, this price is anything but a good use of money.


Agree.feels like that amount of money could better serve Texans in other areas.

That's a hell of a lot to spend on a physical structure that may not even do much to slow border crossing any way.
There's also the eminent domain issue.

Trumplicans did not come off as the part of individual rights when they started commandeerig ppls property along the border to build this wall.
Trump's popularity soared in basically all the border counties

This was an important issue for those people.

My cousin offered to give the govt his border land for a wall to be built on
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