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Gameday Thread: #14 Baylor (18-6; 7-4) at #17 TCU (17-7; 6-5)

February 9, 2023
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#14 Baylor (18-6; 7-4) takes on #17 TCU (17-7; 6-5) Saturday February 11th at 3pm CST in Fort Worth.  The game will be televised on ESPN2.

KenPom Prediction:  TCU 76 Baylor 75

Torvik Prediction:  TCU 77 Baylor 75

Evan Miyakawa Prediction:  TCU 75 Baylor 73

Coaches

TCU:   Jamie Dixon (57) 462-214 (134-91 at TCU); 13 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8

Baylor:  Scott Drew (52); 437-239 overall (417-228 at Baylor); 10 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  7-5 Drew

TCU Starters

Guard:  Shada Wells (JR) 6-0 185 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 44% FG; 26% 3pt; 74% FT

Guard:  Damion Baugh (SR) 6-4 195 lbs; 13 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 44% FG; 26% 3pt; 74% FT

Forward: Charles O’Bannon (SR) 6-6 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 37% FG; 30% 3pt; 71% FT

Forward:  Emmanuel Miller (SR) 6-7 220 lbs; 13 ppg; 7 reb; 2 asst; 55% FG; 48% 3pt; 69% FT

Forward: Eddie Lampkin (SO) 6-11 265 lbs; 7 ppg; 6 reb; 55% FG; 61% FT

TCU Bench

Forward:  Xavier Cork (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 59% FG; 61% FT

Forward:  Micah Peavy (JR) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 3 reb; 36% FG; 18% 3pt; 69% FT

Forward:  JaKobe Coles (SO) 6-7 215 lbs; 8 ppg; 4 reb; 47% FG; 31% 3pt; 86% FT

*Guard:  Mike Miles  (JR) 6-2 195 lbs; 19 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 52% FG; 30% 3pt; 68% FT

*injury status uncertain

Baylor Starters

Guard:  Adam Flagler (SR) 6-3 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 2 reb; 5 asst; 42% FG; 41% 3pt; 80% FT

Guard:  LJ Cryer (JR) 6-1 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 44% FG; 38% 3pt; 86% FT

Guard:  Keyonte George (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 18 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 39% FG; 34% 3pt; 80% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-7 225 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 51% FG; 28% 3pt; 76% FT

Forward:  Flo Thamba (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 5 ppg; 5 reb; 1 blk; 59% FG; 64% FT

Baylor Bench

Forward:  Jonathan Tchamwa Tchatchoua (SR) 6-8 245 lbs; 7 ppg; 4 reb; 56% FG; 57% 3pt

Guard:  Dale Bonner (SR) 6-2 170 lbs; 4 ppg; 3 asst; 2 st; 39% FG; 29% 3pt; 77% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 4 ppg; 4 reb; 52% FG; 25% 3pt; 62% FT

Guard:  Langston Love (FR) 6-5 210 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 35% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Joshua Ojianwuna (FR) 6-10 235 lbs; 5 ppg; 4 reb; 62% FG; 69% FT

 

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Gameday Thread: #14 Baylor (18-6; 7-4) at #17 TCU (17-7; 6-5)

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5:42p, 2/11/23
W




SUCK IT TOADS !!!
Well I ain't no greenhorn!!
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:44p, 2/11/23
Agreed, it really did look off flag live. Just not sure there was enough there to overturn it. The call on Chuck was bad… dodged a bullet there. Like I said I really think all things considered this is the most impressive win of the year. Have we came back to win a game this year down by 9 that late ?
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5:44p, 2/11/23
Missed the game on TV. From reading, it sounds like our D is so awful that we gave up 68 points and won on the road (against a good team).
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In reply to DanaDane • 5:45p, 2/11/23
DanaDane said:
I'm sure LJ couldn't see anyone else open but it wasn't a great idea to inbound it into a trap by the TCU bench with Dickson standing there as well, basically trapping Flag in all directions and essentially creating the effect of a 6th defender. As I said, I'm sure he only threw it there because no one else was breaking open away from that area.


We've always been pretty bad at inbounding against a press under Drew. It's kinda amazing actually
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In reply to Reverend • 5:46p, 2/11/23
Reverend said:
Missed the game on TV. From reading, it sounds like our D is so awful that we gave up 68 points and won on the road (against a good team).


30 layups. Our d was atrocious

Only because tcu is horrific on offense did we win the game

Throw in a missed Love front end that would have basically ended it and we had to Survive a last second I'll advised mid range jumper from a terrible shooter
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5:46p, 2/11/23
Gotta love the sofa spuds who don't contribute in game threads but then can't wait until they know what happened to come and post.
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5:51p, 2/11/23
i'm still stuck on how a ref could overturn a call with no view of the ball, asking the arena for additional camera angles and there being none, and the original call was by a ref 6 feet away with no obscured vision...
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In reply to DanaDane • 5:54p, 2/11/23
Just looking at the score, records, and venue of the game. Is there some obligation to participate in moronic game threads?
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In reply to Hotsauce • 5:55p, 2/11/23
Hotsauce said:
Surely there has to be some rule against a TV broadcast being asked to provide additional views of a replay by officials? Very bizarre. Fran bending over backwards to get that call overturned...lol wth.

Since the call on the floor was Baylor ball, I really didn't see indisputable evidence to overturn it in spite of what Fran kept raving about.
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In reply to Reverend • 5:56p, 2/11/23
You and I both know you would have never appeared in this thread if we had lost. Don't kid yourself. Or us.
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In reply to wgeralds • 5:56p, 2/11/23
wgeralds said:
i'm still stuck on how a ref could overturn a call with no view of the ball, asking the arena for additional camera angles and there being none, and the original call was by a ref 6 feet away with no obscured vision...


Was just a makeup for the clearly missed call to tie it up. It gave them the chance to say "hey we gave y'all a chance"
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In reply to Fre3dombear • 5:57p, 2/11/23
You called it before it happened. Nailed it.
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5:57p, 2/11/23
Good to get out of there with the W. Some really clutch shots by Flagler and hustle by Bridges down the stretch to carry the day. Really had to have this one, coming in with only 1 win against the top half of the conference. We've given away too many games we should have won (pretty much all of the losses outside of Marquette, maybe one other), so great to see things beside sphincters tighten up in the 2nd half today
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In reply to bear2be2 • 5:58p, 2/11/23
bear2be2 said:
Fre3dombear said:
Omg what a choke by tcu
They were never up by more than nine. And that was with like nine minutes left. This was just a standard basketball game. Teams make runs.
They had a 10 point lead at one point. It did not last long.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to DanaDane • 5:59p, 2/11/23
DanaDane said:
Gotta love the sofa spuds who don't contribute in game threads but then can't wait until they know what happened to come and post.

Happens every time. I love the hindsight 20-20 group that shows up to flame everyone only after the final result is known - as if they knew all along what the outcome was going to be.
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5:59p, 2/11/23
We split with tcu and only lost by 1 when they HAD their best offensive weapon and we lacked our best defensive weapon.

I love the grit to come back down 10.

Both teams will be dangerous in the tourney.

Sic em!!!
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In reply to tomiathon • 5:59p, 2/11/23
Flag's finally 8 minutes offensively, in particular, were a thing of beauty.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 6:04p, 2/11/23
Guaranteed, like clockwork.
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6:04p, 2/11/23
We are now #2 in the conference!!!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to tomiathon • 6:04p, 2/11/23
tomiathon said:
Good to get out of there with the W. Some really clutch shots by Flagler and hustle by Bridges down the stretch to carry the day. Really had to have this one, coming in with only 1 win against the top half of the conference. We've given away too many games we should have won (pretty much all of the losses outside of Marquette, maybe one other), so great to see things beside sphincters tighten up in the 2nd half today


Iowa State destroyed us. We'll return the favor in Waco.
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In reply to DanaDane • 6:05p, 2/11/23
Maybe so. We'll never know.
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In reply to Reverend • 6:06p, 2/11/23
Hey, see there. You and I can agree on something!
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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In reply to Fre3dombear • 6:17p, 2/11/23
Fre3dombear said:
bear2be2 said:
IowaBear said:
Saw that in a game last year, can't remember who. It sure seemed like it was off fkag but idk how you overturn that call. And Fran 100% was advocating for that to be TCUs ball. Maybe he saw something we couldn't on TV
I didn't have a problem with it. We got really lucky on the O'Bannon foul call, and that ball did look like it was off Flagler.


They owed us 3 or 4 at that point so I feel zero sympathy
I'm glad they got it and still lost.
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6:28p, 2/11/23
I'll say, tcu made 30 layups. Benefited 3-4 times from some super questionable calls, played us basically without keynote, And lost. At home. In the game they care more about than any other.

Says more about them than us.

Always a bridesmaid
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In reply to DanaDane • 6:29p, 2/11/23
DanaDane said:
You called it before it happened. Nailed it.


So weird to see tcu get a call like that against a national title blue blood team like Baylor but I just expected it
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In reply to BUmoneymaker • 6:34p, 2/11/23
BUmoneymaker said:
We split with tcu and only lost by 1 when they HAD their best offensive weapon and we lacked our best defensive weapon.

I love the grit to come back down 10.

Both teams will be dangerous in the tourney.

Sic em!!!


This

Wish football cared to beat them now
And then
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In reply to BearlySpeaking • 6:36p, 2/11/23
BearlySpeaking said:
Fre3dombear said:
bear2be2 said:
IowaBear said:
Saw that in a game last year, can't remember who. It sure seemed like it was off fkag but idk how you overturn that call. And Fran 100% was advocating for that to be TCUs ball. Maybe he saw something we couldn't on TV
I didn't have a problem with it. We got really lucky on the O'Bannon foul call, and that ball did look like it was off Flagler.


They owed us 3 or 4 at that point so I feel zero sympathy
I'm glad they got it and still lost.


Was even better
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In reply to bear2be2 • 6:51p, 2/11/23
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
Jon has NOT had a good game today
He's not quick enough for this TCU team. None of our bigs are.

This really is a tough matchup for us. TCU was built with long, quick, athletic slashers. Those guys give us fits.
Agreed, horrible matchup for us but we still found a way to steal a road win. Incredible.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 7:20p, 2/11/23
Crawfoso1973 said:
bear2be2 said:
Mitch Henessey said:
Jon has NOT had a good game today
He's not quick enough for this TCU team. None of our bigs are.

This really is a tough matchup for us. TCU was built with long, quick, athletic slashers. Those guys give us fits.
Agreed, horrible matchup for us but we still found a way to steal a road win. Incredible.
Yep. Heck of a win.

Flagler willed us on offense and we found some defense out of nowhere in the final eight minutes.

Despite what was said in this thread when we were down, this is a gritty team. We're just not as good defensively as we've been in past years.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:29p, 2/11/23
Davion Mitchell, Mark Vital, etc had us spoiled.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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9:28p, 2/11/23
We are not going to be as good defensively as we were two years ago. Probably.

I found it fascinating that we had JTT on the floor defensively at the end. To my old but unprofessional observation, Drew trusts JTT's confidence and conditioning.

We have a month for our excellent coaches to figure this out. jTT's presence adds depth and experience but also complexity and challenges. He's not yet, maybe ever, the high flying JTT, but he adds a lot, or he would not have been on the floor in the end.
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