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Gameday Thread: #3 Seed Baylor (23-10) vs #6 Seed Creighton (22-12)

March 19, 2023
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#3 Seed Baylor (23-10) takes on #6 Seed Creighton (22-12) Sunday March 19th in Denver at 6:10 pm CST.  The game will be televised on TBS.  

KenPom Prediction:  Creighton 75 Baylor 74

Torvik Prediction:  Creighton 75 Baylor 74

Evan Miyakawa Prediction:  Creighton 76 Baylor 75

Coaches

Creighton:   Greg McDermott (58) 578-344 (298-149 at Creighton); 11 NCAAs; Sweet 16

Baylor:  Scott Drew (52); 442-243 overall (422-232 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  4-2 Drew

Creighton Starters

Guard:  Ryan Nembhard (SO) 6-0 170 lbs; 12 ppg; 4 reb; 5 asst; 43% FG; 36% 3pt; 86% FT

Guard: Trey Alexander (SO) 6-4 190 lbs; 14 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 45% FG; 43% 3pt; 81% FT

Guard:  Baylor Scheierman (SR) 6-7 205 lbs; 13 ppg; 8 reb; 3 asst; 42% FG; 36% 3pt; 82% FT

Forward:  Arthur Kaluma (SR) 6-7 225 lbs; 12 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 42% FG; 32% 3pt; 73% FT

Forward:  Ryan Kalkbrenner (JR) 7-1 260 lbs; 16 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blks; 72% FG; 33% 3pt; 78% FT

Creighton Bench

Guard:  Franciso Farabello (SR) 6-3 185 lbs; 3 ppg; 31% FG; 28% 3pt; 50% FT

Forward:  Mason Miller (FR) 6-7 190 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 37% FG; 38% 3pt; 56% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  Adam Flagler (SR) 6-3 185 lbs; 16 ppg; 3 reb; 5 asst; 43% FG; 41% 3pt; 80% FT

Guard:  LJ Cryer (JR) 6-1 190 lbs; 15 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 44% FG; 42% 3pt; 91% FT

Guard:  Keyonte George (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 16 ppg; 4 reb; 3 asst; 38% FG; 34% 3pt; 79% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-7 225 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 50% FG; 32% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Flo Thamba (SR) 6-10 250 lbs; 5 ppg; 5 reb; 57% FG; 64% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Dale Bonner (SR) 6-2 170 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 asst; 44% FG; 37% 3pt; 77% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 3 ppg; 4 reb; 55% FG; 25% 3pt; 64% FT

Guard:  Langston Love (FR) 6-5 210 lbs; 6 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 36% 3pt; 69% FT

Forward:  Jonthan Tchama Tchatuouia (SR) 6-10 235 lbs; 6 ppg; 5 reb; 51% FG; 50% 3pt; 85% FT

Forward:  Joshua Ojianwuna (FR) 6-10 230 lbs; 4 ppg; 4 reb; 60% FG; 66% FT

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Gameday Thread: #3 Seed Baylor (23-10) vs #6 Seed Creighton (22-12)

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bear2be2
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In reply to wgeralds • 8:14p, 3/19/23
wgeralds said:
IvanBear said:
BearTruth13 said:
IowaBear said:
He has been all year! Dudes a grade a loafer. Won't miss him a bit! He's been Mia like a month straight. Need to get back to recruiting chip on the shoulder guys. 5 stars are shiny. They don't win national titles


The 5 star guys we've had before were

Perry Jones
Isaiah Austin
Quincy Miller
Kendall Brown
Keynote George

I wouldn't put any of those guys on Baylor's top 10 players.



Drew absolutely needs to stop recruiting them, the only guy on the list that didn't actively hurt his team was Jones. And he was he a disappointment
we need players with that dog in them. lace dunn. pierre jackson. terry teagle. quincy acy. taurean prince. davion. tweety. macio. shoot even mark vital. size didn't matter - it was the fight.
The only dogs on this team are Dale Bonner and Jalen Bridges.

JTT has a willing spirit, but his body's not there unfortunately.
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Quinton
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In reply to wgeralds • 8:14p, 3/19/23
Exactly. Recruit for fire. The guys coming in over the next two years fit that more closely. Still good to have some calming presence players but can't have every player on the roster deferring
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8:14p, 3/19/23
Our D was atrocious but getting that 2nd foul on a ba call on Flo and that offensive foul wiling the 3 were huge
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SIC EM 94
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8:14p, 3/19/23
20-20 free throws
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In reply to BellCountyBear • 8:14p, 3/19/23
We're 2-1 in conference play. Go Mitch.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
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8:14p, 3/19/23
You can keep the freshmen. I don't give a chit what they do in the NBA 5 years from now. Gimme an experienced PG out of the portal who knows how to control tempo on the offensive end and play tough D on the other. I'll take that over any kid who is gonna be here for 1 year and his rating is based upon projected performance 5 years from now.
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:15p, 3/19/23
IowaBear said:
Dudes crazy inefficient
Yep. Has been all year.

I thought he was going to be a really good pro, but I'm not so sure anymore.

If he can't score efficiently against college talent, how is he going to do so in the NBA?

And both his decision-making and defense, as has been detailed by others, are consistently suspect.
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In reply to cleverbearname • 8:16p, 3/19/23
cleverbearname said:
George looking for highlight every time and not smart play. Gets old


It never felt like we were winning this....but had possession down 9 with 2 minutes to go....and KG just launches himself in the air for a circus shot. Suboptimal.
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8:16p, 3/19/23
Creighton won it on being hot shooting but refs gave them all the advantages. Bunch of bs calls on us when Creighton was doing same thing.
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8:16p, 3/19/23
Keynote never recovered from his sprained ankle I guess

Drew should have limited his touches more

Most flop no foul call layups in a season I've ever seen.
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8:16p, 3/19/23
With a 15 seed waiting in the next round, you come out flat, no energy, and proceed to play a game in which you are never competitive. Thought we might lose, but hard to be proud of this effort
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In reply to DanaDane • 8:17p, 3/19/23
DanaDane said:
You can keep the freshmen. I don't give a chit what they do in the NBA 5 years from now. Gimme an experienced PG out of the portal who knows how to control tempo on the offensive end and play tough D on the other. I'll take that over any kid who is gonna be here for 1 year and his rating is based upon projected performance 5 years from now.


Give me 5 leaders from the portal and shove this roster out the hole.
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In reply to DanaDane • 8:17p, 3/19/23
DanaDane said:
You can keep the freshmen. I don't give a chit what they do in the NBA 5 years from now. Gimme an experienced PG out of the portal who knows how to control tempo on the offensive end and play tough D on the other. I'll take that over any kid who is gonna be here for 1 year and his rating is based upon projected performance 5 years from now.
I said this last year.

I don't even want the one-and-dones. They're frustrating for the one year you have them and don't help you win in March.
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In reply to DanaDane • 8:17p, 3/19/23
Bingo, so many good PGs in the portal last off season. I truly hope Grimes is ready to go. This team HAS to improve immensely at the wing and center position. And for the love of god get guards who can actually defend. I don't give a crap if they can score 14 a game if they're giving up 20 burgers that does no good
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8:18p, 3/19/23
If Creighton had shot 70% from the line this would be a 2 point game
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:18p, 3/19/23
IowaBear said:
Dudes crazy inefficient

At what point does consistently being not even an average player start impacting all of the sure fire one and done possible lottery pick stuff??
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8:19p, 3/19/23
I could blame the refs tonight, but refs wouldn't have fixed us going 5-22 from three while allowing 11-24. This team wasn't nearly the defensive power it was the last three seasons, and it unfortunately showed today.
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In reply to whitetrash • 8:19p, 3/19/23
whitetrash said:
If Creighton had shot 70% from the line this would be a 2 point game


Yes but they had a Higgins like amount of opportunity
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8:20p, 3/19/23
Thanks for the memories Flag. I enjoyed watching you play.

Thanks Flo -- you were part of a National Title team I will never forget.
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In reply to edible_waffles • 8:21p, 3/19/23
edible_waffles said:
I could blame the refs tonight, but refs wouldn't have fixed us going 5-22 from three while allowing 11-24. This team wasn't nearly the defensive power it was the last three seasons, and it unfortunately showed today.
Nope. We were thoroughly outplayed on both ends. That's not on the refs.
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In reply to DanaDane • 8:21p, 3/19/23
Has Flag officially declared he's not coming back?
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8:21p, 3/19/23
God forbid if I have to suffer through another athletic campaign where TCU is more successful than us.
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8:21p, 3/19/23
Onto next year
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In reply to BearFan33 • 8:21p, 3/19/23
BearFan33 said:
whitetrash said:
If Creighton had shot 70% from the line this would be a 2 point game


Yes but they had a Higgins like amount of opportunity


Normalize that too and we might be ahead.
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In reply to DanaDane • 8:22p, 3/19/23
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Thanks for the memories Flag. I enjoyed watching you play.

Thanks Flo -- you were part of a National Title team I will never forget.
Contrary to the *****ing today, Flo played really hard and fairly well tonight.

He had a disappointing season, but he was a contributor to our program during its greatest stretch in school history.

And I'll always love Adam Flagler. That dude was a great player for us for a long time. It's a shame he didn't finish the way he wanted to.
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In reply to BearTruth13 • 8:22p, 3/19/23
I was agreeing with you. We haven't mixed in the right guys and the freshman we got were on the softer side. Just saying mixing in a few is possible. Alabama has a few this year working well. Others don't.

But in general 18 yo v 23 yo is tough. I agree with that. I'm saying you can sprinkle them in if you can handle it. So far we haven't been able to
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In reply to bear2be2 • 8:23p, 3/19/23
bear2be2 said:
edible_waffles said:
I could blame the refs tonight, but refs wouldn't have fixed us going 5-22 from three while allowing 11-24. This team wasn't nearly the defensive power it was the last three seasons, and it unfortunately showed today.
Nope. We were thoroughly outplayed on both ends. That's not on the refs.
Yeah, but I know there will be people putting a lot of this on officiating
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8:23p, 3/19/23
Maybe not a one and done point guard... that's a real tough position.
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8:23p, 3/19/23
We can only pray that George goes pro. What an overrated disappointment.
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In reply to SIC EM 94 • 8:23p, 3/19/23
SIC EM 94 said:
20-20 free throws

actually, 22-22
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 8:24p, 3/19/23
Johnny Bear said:
IowaBear said:
Dudes crazy inefficient

At what point does consistently being not even an average player start impacting all of the sure fire one and done possible lottery pick stuff??


How's keynote gonna be drafted higher than KB?
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:24p, 3/19/23
No. Just assuming he's not back. Certainly hasn't announced anything.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 8:24p, 3/19/23
It probably started to a few weeks ago. Mid conference was still safe now it's way more up in the air. Potential is huge and front offices believe in their ability to develop but intangibles do factor in if egregious. Will be interesting
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In reply to Stefano DiMera • 8:24p, 3/19/23
Stefano DiMera said:
God forbid if I have to suffer through another athletic campaign where TCU is more successful than us.


Agree....but I can't pull for Timme and the Zags
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8:26p, 3/19/23
Bears scored enough to win. Just could not stop Creighton's attack.

Disappointed we did not win, but no shame here.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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