Grayson Grundhoefer: I Think Dave Aranda Will be Brought Back But With High Expectations

PartyBear said:

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Again you are pretending NIL doesn't exist in the landscape now.

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No one is pretending that it's not a problem exactly. You're the one pretending that CDA deserves more time because of NIL.

Fwiw, me and a couple others predicted what would happen once NIL was legal while others downplayed it. I wasn't one of the downplayers. I was spot on as to what has come to this point, one of the few, so I definitely get it. But CDA is a terrible coach and NIL isn't going to change that. Still can't see why you're covering for him and won't admit how bad he is despite everyone else seeing it. He doesn't deserve any more chances. He's just not leadership material.

Grayson is a Pollyannic Moron of non-fathomable degrees.

Do people actually pay $ for that bull$?

Only if he puts it on the members board.

BUGWBBear said:

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Grayson is a Pollyannic Moron of non-fathomable degrees.

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He's the biggest sunshine pumper, but I like him. As others have surmised, him and Colt and the other writers must agree to give a positive spin in order to keep inside access to people in the athletic department. That's the only logical explanation.

Odds of Aranda getting fired are 65% or better ?

Lose your integrity for a meaningless cause? No thank you. Truth isn't always pretty, but wins every time.

You can just go sit by I35 to watch people get ran over, why do I want to sit in McLane stadium and watch the Bears get ran over game after game and year after year? This has trended down year after year since the championship year. A 4 or 5 game win season is that acceptable next year? What about 6? Alumni expectations are much higher. Oklahoma State proves a lot of players can leave their program and they still bring in elite players that can play at a high level the very next year. I think any acceptance of status quo does not work for the alumni base just because CDA is a great individual.

Jimbo getting gone. Heck of a buy out.

https://fbschedules.com/2024-baylor-football-schedule/

Looking at our 2024 schedule… I see 2-3 wins based on the current team's output. So what are high expectations? Bowl eligibility? That's not high to me.

Recruiting is going to suck, when we know the majority of players commit to a coach NOT a school.

Every recruiter out there is going to be using that negative recruiting tactic, so it's going to hurt us potentially for years.

Time to fire Aranda is NOW.

We can debate if the admin is all in, BUT if he's not fired this season the evidence indicates the admin isn't all in.

Waste of time to bring back Dace..massive mistake. Time t right the ship with new leadership lo

I'm hearing Aranda will hire Jimbo.

He took over a Big 12 Championship caliber team and has regressed each year.

He's not the guy......it's not going to change in a year.

He's got to go.

Jimbo getting canned is bad for Baylor. Going to result in more high end jobs coming open and will make it tougher to get a suitable replacement for Aranda, not to mention assistants and coordinators.

Although by the time Dave is canned in 2024 or 2025 we'll present a tremendous opportunity for a talented young coach because they'll have an opportunity to shape a system over a long haul.

Title really sounds like a BU derived press release.
Nobody seriously thinks CDA is a good headcoach at this point. Title should just read "yes we know he's not good, we're too weak to get rid of him, but trust us we're looking out for the program and have set high expectations".

I'm torn. I really like Dave, and recently coordinators have seemed to be a better cause of success than HC's, so if he brings in the right guys then there's a small chance he could turn this around for a couple years. But he's now hired Fedora and Grimes and fired his mentor and hired a young up and comer and have himself more control, only for our defense to get way worse. Plus He's continued to retain Bell, who's clearly not good, and our recruiting sucks. Not sure he's able to turn it around at this point.

The ATM job vs the Baylor jobs like comparing Turks and Caicos to South Padre.

Aggie making a change does nothing to us.

There's candidates they'll attract that would never take our call.

Space Cutter said:

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In the same way the democrats are fixing the border crisis,

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wrong forum

So what you're saying is we're getting a new AD and a new HC next year.

EuropeBear said:

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100 Tech players are getting $25000 base pay. What's the average for our team?

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Supposedly $35k for scholarship players only, plus whatever the players land on their own. So I've been told.

Their private fund pays that to 100 and their stated goal is 125 players next season. That's public knowledge.
This is independent of any individual NIL deals.

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-tech-red-raiders/2023/07/19/texas-tech-athletes-reported-nearly-8-million-in-nil-money-through-first-two-years/?outputType=amp

Killing Floor said:

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Their private fund pays that to 100 and their stated goal is 125 players next season. That's public knowledge.
This is independent of any individual NIL deals.

https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/texas-tech-red-raiders/2023/07/19/texas-tech-athletes-reported-nearly-8-million-in-nil-money-through-first-two-years/?outputType=amp

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I was talking about us.

Golden Helmet said:

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He took over a Big 12 Championship caliber team and has regressed each year.

He's not the guy......it's not going to change in a year.

He's got to go.

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The loss to Texas State was telling, as they are only 3-3 in THEIR conference.

Being ahead of Long Island by 9 at halftime was even more telling, those guys lost
to 5-5 Merrimack 39-0.

I always like to look behind the numbers when BU plays substandard/inferior competition.

If those teams are their conference champs to national champion contender teams in their lower division, a close
game might be expected, if Baylor is having an average year.

If Baylor struggles with or loses to them and they are bad to average in their lower level conference, you know Baylor is playing at near Steelish levels.

Next year could be a Beall/Steele type situation, I hope not but you have to have an honest take on it and that looks like where the Bears are headed.

Maybe there is a miracle out there I'm not seeing, but I think Baylor used up their miracle against UCF and they
are simply a bad team, probably getting worse next year.

Man. I don't see how a coordinator takes the fall here. Sure, you could fire Grimes. Or you could fire our new DC who is posting up the worst defense we've had since ... Steele? But we just hired this new DC and fired Roberts who is kicking butt at Auburn. So you going to replace Powledge after 1 year?

Or do we go hire our third OC? Who is going to want to take that job?

At some point, the failure to attract and manage a staff and create an identity for this football team just falls on the HFC. We can't keep pretending to fix all his problems with new staff.

Re-arranging chairs on a ship that's going down...

Man, I'd love that job. Easy money and no real accountability.

TinFoilHatPreacherBear said:

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PartyBear said:

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Again you are pretending NIL doesn't exist in the landscape now.

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No one is pretending that it's not a problem exactly. You're the one pretending that CDA deserves more time because of NIL.

Fwiw, me and a couple others predicted what would happen once NIL was legal while others downplayed it. I wasn't one of the downplayers. I was spot on as to what has come to this point, one of the few, so I definitely get it. But CDA is a terrible coach and NIL isn't going to change that. Still can't see why you're covering for him and won't admit how bad he is despite everyone else seeing it. He doesn't deserve any more chances. He's just not leadership material.

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First of all saying we have systemic problems again isnt saying Aranda deserves more time. The pragmatic decision however might be to keep him until we fix the problems. For example if you dont fix the issues it really wont matter who you plug into the HC position. Furthermore who you think we might plug into the position will not be who we plug in. There is great risk of the pickens being really slim if the HC here not only doesnt have good NIL but on top of that isnt allowed to sign who and what he needs anyway. Not many people y'all have heard of are going to be interested in that and anyone who is fine with that will not succeed, then off the cliff we go (it may feel like it but we really havent gone off the cliff yet). Just a warning. I lived through something like this before here.

That is my point about the issue.

I have no idea what the guy wrote because I am not a premium member, but if I just read that he says Aranda will be brought back. I can't disagree. Doesn't say I want that, but do you guys really think he won't be here next year (unless he resigns)?

You can line up all the arguments why keeping him is a real bad idea, but I am just going to be really surprised if he is fired. I guess primarily because of the money situation. And on that you can say that is the ADs job to get it, and it is, but if people are not going to provide the money, the AD can do anything and everything but if those people that have the money are not providing it, they are not providing it....it is not there and nothing of significance can change.

blackie said:

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I have no idea what the guy wrote because I am not a premium member, but if I just read that he says Aranda will be brought back. I can't disagree. Doesn't say I want that, but do you guys really think he won't be here next year (unless he resigns)?

You can line up all the arguments why keeping him is a real bad idea, but I am just going to be really surprised if he is fired. I guess primarily because of the money situation. And on that you can say that is the ADs job to get it, and it is, but if people are not going to provide the money, the AD can do anything and everything but if those people that have the money are not providing it, they are not providing it....it is not there and nothing of significance can change.

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If this is true, and it might be, Rhoades will be fired halfway through next Fall and Aranda will be fired a year from now.

If we can't afford to fire him, Rhoads made a huge mistake in negotiating that contract. Leaving us in such an untenable position is enough reason for him to go.

Krieg said:

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blackie said:

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I have no idea what the guy wrote because I am not a premium member, but if I just read that he says Aranda will be brought back. I can't disagree. Doesn't say I want that, but do you guys really think he won't be here next year (unless he resigns)?

You can line up all the arguments why keeping him is a real bad idea, but I am just going to be really surprised if he is fired. I guess primarily because of the money situation. And on that you can say that is the ADs job to get it, and it is, but if people are not going to provide the money, the AD can do anything and everything but if those people that have the money are not providing it, they are not providing it....it is not there and nothing of significance can change.

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If this is true, and it might be, Rhoades will be fired halfway through next Fall and Aranda will be fired a year from now.

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Wouldnt we fire the AD this school year so a new one can evaluate the football situation? It makes no sense to fire the AD a couple of weeks prior to firing the HC.

If Aranda is back next year, it will only be worse than this year. How do I know? Because the trajectory of the program is not up, not stable, but downward. Last year was bad, but this year was worse. Next year will be even worse with our talent level declining and our best will be hitting the portal. Go ahead and fire Grimes, but what quality coordinator going to join this dumpster fire. Heck, if it's true the admin has handcuffed the football program in their recruiting, then just keep Aranda, because the next guy ain't going to do any better. Next year's gonna be Steele level suck. The only way it changes is by keeping your money.

75% chance he's gone.