Gameday Thread: #18 Baylor (14-5; 3-3) at UCF (12-7; 3-4)

DanaDane said:

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I'm tracking that one Mitch. We've said that 6 times this year at the half and in all 6 cases the opponent fell in the 2nd half but still ended up shooting 15% or more higher than their season average per game.

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We saw it in the Texas game. They were unconscious in the first half and then didn't hit another three pointer the rest of the game. If we can get something resembling a defensive plan executed in the second half, I like our chances.

Mitch Henessey said:

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On the one hand, we're lost defensively.

On the other, UCF is a 27% 3pt shooting team. They're shooting 61.5%. There's absolutely no way they keep that up in the second half.

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We are at 56% ourselves...probably will see some regression on both sides

IowaBear said:

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You're going to offend Crawfoso. I'm sure Walter is giving us high energy and effort.

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I'm hoping he comes out hot in the 2nd half. Just as UCF is not a 61% 3 point shooting team, we're not a 56% 3 point shooting team either.

IowaBear said:

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Start Love over Walter. Don't care if he's a 5 star. Loves the better player by a mile

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Where have you been the past several years. Doesn't really matter who starts for CSD. 6th man is like another starter for us and Love is thriving in that role.

This team really has a knack to make our opponents look like the best versions of themselves. UT and UCF come out on absolute fire from 3, both terrible 3 point shooting teams, coincidence….nope. Our perimeter D just sucks. Oh and interior too.

UCF is unlikely to cool off much. Our D is Swiss cheese. They'll continue to scorching the nets

Oh, look at that. The same handful of posters are *****ing about one and dones. That wasn't completely predictable at all.

Yep. Good sign is that we could have let get completely out of hand a couple of times and didn't. So if we can come out and nail a couple, get some momentum and have even an inkling of a defensive surge, we can make our run.

Oh I know. How dare we bring your golden boy who's giving us Jack off the bench. And start a guy who can score at will

boognish_bear said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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On the one hand, we're lost defensively.

On the other, UCF is a 27% 3pt shooting team. They're shooting 61.5%. There's absolutely no way they keep that up in the second half.

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We are at 56% ourselves...probably will see some regression on both sides

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Yeah, but we're a 40% team from deep. We're actually good at it. They're not.

DanaDane said:

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Yep. Good sign is that we could have let get completely out of hand a couple of times and didn't. So if we can come out and nail a couple, get some momentum and have even an inkling of a defensive surge, we can make our run.

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Problem is that every time we start to close, we slack off on defense and fall behind. 4 minutes to go we were down 3 and had the ball. Inside 2 minutes we were down by 9 because - again - we went to sleep on defense.

But we on ignore than Mitchell. If you can't handle the golden boy getting criticized for his no show… again

IowaBear said:

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But we on ignore than Mitchell. If you can't handle the golden boy getting criticized for his no show… again

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Care to translate this to English?

Sure thing boss. If you can't handle me criticizing the golden boys no show. Kindly put me on ignore

IowaBear said:

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Start Love over Walter. Don't care if he's a 5 star. Loves the better player by a mile

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I'd start him over Nunn, but I agree that he's one of our two best players. It's Dennis, Love and a wide gap between everybody else.

UCF had their best shooting half of their season.

This teams best version is with Love on the court playing huge minutes. And either one of Nunn or Walter playing significantly less

I can't believe how bad our defense is. Their three guards are 11-15 including 8-10 from three. They are shooting 64% from three. That is incredibly bad defense. Oh, also our Top 5 NBA guard has 0 points and Top 10 NBA center has 0 rebounds.

Crawfoso1973 said:

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IowaBear said:

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Start Love over Walter. Don't care if he's a 5 star. Loves the better player by a mile

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Where have you been the past several years. Doesn't really matter who starts for CSD. 6th man is like another starter for us and Love is thriving in that role.

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He's thrived in that role. We haven't thrived with him in that role.

Mitch Henessey said:

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Oh, look at that. The same handful of posters are *****ing about one and dones. That wasn't completely predictable at all.

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Did our team all of the sudden become more consistent and less soft?

It's not a coincidence that every game a guy has a 8/10 or 7/9 type game. We let teams get so comfortable out there. So we get less open misses.

All college teams give up good looks but teams miss them all the time bc they're already shook. The defense is terrible

IowaBear said:

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Sure thing boss. If you can't handle me criticizing the golden boys no show. Kindly put me on ignore

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I can handle any criticism you want to dish out, my man. But when you're not even writing in coherent sentences, it's tough to tell what you're complaining about.

I assume it's the same thing you complain about in every single game thread. You are a drama queen in game threads, but pretty reasonable outside of them. Deep breaths are your friend, bud.

Ok. there we go. Dennis is finally taking it to the hoop.

bear2be2 said:

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Mitch Henessey said:

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Oh, look at that. The same handful of posters are *****ing about one and dones. That wasn't completely predictable at all.

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Did our team all of the sudden become more consistent and less soft?

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Not particularly. But the difference is, I think there's a chance our team gels under a national championship-winning coach. You've apparently thrown in the towel on this season already. To each his own.

I mean I won't deny that. Im just sick and tired of the lack of defense. And sone point I'd like to think pride would kick in a bit. It's every game now where teams are just going scorched earth on us

Was that not goal tending?????????

At the game there's been several uncalled

Getting pwned by a commuter school in another sport…we are baylor!

IowaBear said:

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I mean I won't deny that. Im just sick and tired of the lack of defense. And sone point I'd like to think pride would kick in a bit. It's every game now where teams are just going scorched earth on us

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I 1,000% agree with that assessment.

BU's offense has been fine, but we just HAVE to get stops.

Looking at our losing streak, I see this:

At Kansas State: Bears start strong and jump out to an 11 to 5 lead, KSU closes to 1 with 27 seconds to go, Bears finish the half strong and lead by 5 at the half. But the Bears start the second half flat and with 11:47 to go KSU takes the lead. back and forth from there until the Bears grab a late 6 point lead with 3:06 to go, then the Bears again go flat and KSU goes on a run to force OT. In OT the Bears work up a 5 point lead then collapse late to lose by 4.

At Texas: Start is back and forth and is tied at 9:36 in the first half, Bears go flat for a while and Texas builds a 38-31 lead with 4:01 to go. Bears come back strong and close to 1 at the half. Tight game to start the second half, tied at 50 with 15:38 to go. Bears then grab a 6 point lead at 12:25, but slow down on offense and let Texas back in; the game is tied 65-65 with 4:57 to go. You know the rest - Texas stays tight and wins with a last-second shot.

Vs TCU: After time to rest and regroup, Bears have a home game against TCU, but play like they were unprepared. Tight game through the first half, TCU leads by 1 with 4 minutes in the first half, Bears finish reasonably well and lead at the half by 5. But over the second half the Bears continue to lead TCU hang around, and by the 0:51 mark we are tied at 76. We got to OT, where the Bears start weak and have to struggle to force a second OT, but they do. In 2OT the game stays tight and ends tied. In the first 2 minutes of 3OT the Bears work up a 4 point lead, but go back to sleep and let TCU tie it at 53 seconds. After that TCU simply pulls away.

What I see is a team that works, but sporadically, and just doesn't turn a small lead into control of the game. I seriously cannot remember a conference game this year where the Bears controlled the game. Even the wins were a matter of hanging on.

I hope the Bears will pull out the win tonight and this may prove the start of a comeback in the season. But we have to show up tonight, or we will be in deep, deep trouble going into the teeth of the season.

IowaBear said:

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I mean I won't deny that. Im just sick and tired of the lack of defense. And sone point I'd like to think pride would kick in a bit. It's every game now where teams are just going scorched earth on us

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The lack of Defense is very apparent, as it's been all year and will likely continue. The lazy effort on the boards is a bad combination as well.

rileyroo said:

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BU's offense has been fine, but we just HAVE to get stops.

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When you don't even TRY to rebound a missed 3 point shot, you should not be surprised when they get the 3 pointer on their second try

Can we please stop playing Lohner??

This D is beyond awful.