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Gameday Thread: #3 Seed Baylor vs #2 Seed Iowa State

March 16, 2024
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3 seed Baylor (23-9) takes on 2 seed Iowa State (25-7) in the semifinals of the Big12 Tournament Friday March 15th at 8:30pm CST.  The game will be televised on ESPN.

KenPom Prediction:  Iowa State 71 Baylor 70

Torvik Prediction:  Iowa State 73 Baylor 70

Evan Miyakawa:  Iowa State 73 Baylor 68

Haslametrics:  Iowa State 69 Baylor 68

Coaches

Iowa State:  TJ Otzleberger (46) 165-96 (66-34 at ISU); 4 NCAAs; Sweet 16

Baylor:  Scott Drew (53); 464-252 overall (434-241 at Baylor); 11 NCAAs; 5 Sweet 16s; 3 Elite 8s; FF; 1 National Championship

Head to Head:  3-3

Iowa State Starters

Guard:  Tamin Lipsey (SO) 6-1 200 lbs; 13 ppg; 5 reb; 5 asst; 3 st; 42% FG; 37% 3pt; 69% FT

Guard:  Keshon Gilbert (JR) 6-4 200 lbs; 14 ppg; 4 reb; 4 asst; 44% FG; 33% 3pt; 73% FT

Forward: Tre King (SR) 6-7 230 lbs; 9 ppg; 5 reb; 50% FG; 28% 3pt; 81% FT

Forward:  Milan Momcilovic (FR) 6-8 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 42% FG; 35% 3pt; 81% FT

Forward:  Robert Jones (SR) 6-10 255 lbs; 8 ppg; 4 reb; 61% FG; 52% FT

Iowa State Bench

Guard:  Curtis Jones (SR) 6-4 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 steals; 40% FG; 33% pt; 79% FT

Forward:  Hason Ward (SR) 6-9 230 lbs; 6 ppg; 4 reb; 59% FG; 53% FT

Forward:  Omaha Biliew (FR) 6-8 225 lbs; 3 ppg; 54% FG; 61% FT

Baylor Starters

Guard:  RayJ Dennis (SR) 6-3 180 lbs; 14 ppg; 4 reb; 7 asst;  49% FG; 36% 3pt; 72% FT

Guard:  Jayden Nunn (JR) 6-3 190 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 47% FG; 45% 3pt; 71% FT 

Guard:  Ja’Kobe Walter (FR) 6-5 185 lbs; 15 ppg; 5 reb; 2 asst; 38% FG; 34% 3pt; 83% FT

Forward:  Jalen Bridges (JR) 6-9 225 lbs; 12 ppg; 6 reb; 46% FG; 40% 3pt; 84% FT

Forward:  Yves Missi (FR) 6-11 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 2 blocks; 62% FG; 61% FT

Baylor Bench

Guard:  Langston Love (SO) 6-5 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 47% FG; 48% 3pt; 78% FT

Forward:  Caleb Lohner (JR) 6-8 235 lbs; 3 ppg; 2 reb; 55% FG; 22% 3pt; 80% FT

Forward:  Josh Ojianwuna (SO) 6-10 240 lbs; 5 ppg; 3 reb; 74% FG; 63% FT

Guard:  Miro Little (FR) 6-4 185 lbs; 2 ppg; 44% FG; 38% 3pt; 72% FT

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Gameday Thread: #3 Seed Baylor vs #2 Seed Iowa State

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9:18a, 3/15/24
I really hope we come out with a little energy, sense of urgency, and execution.
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9:50a, 3/15/24
Just win Bears!
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10:32a, 3/15/24
Dale!

- KKM

Go Bears!!
Are you a man or a mouse!? - F. D.
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11:17a, 3/15/24
This was yesterday

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12:30p, 3/15/24
No way we lose to these clowns
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In reply to ScottS • 1:04p, 3/15/24
ScottS said:
No way we lose to these clowns
Realistically we have a high probability of losing to them. Historically under CSD we really don't value advancing in the big 12 tourney.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:08p, 3/15/24
Crawfoso1973 said:
ScottS said:
No way we lose to these clowns
Realistically we have a high probability of losing to them. Historically under CSD we really don't value advancing in the big 12 tourney.


Plus....ISU is just really damn good.
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In reply to ScottS • 1:14p, 3/15/24
ScottS said:
No way we lose to these clowns


It's a hybrid road game which the team struggles in. Would feel fine in a true neutral game. On the road against decent teams, they struggle. Breaking that cycle today would be great.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:18p, 3/15/24
Any articles to point to or quotes suggesting Drew doesn't value the tournament?
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In reply to IowaBear • 1:33p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
Any articles to point to or quotes suggesting Drew doesn't value the tournament?
Nope. Just results, year after year.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:36p, 3/15/24
So we're excusing poor results in KC as not valuing games?
And for what it's worth I don't expect us to win tonight. But not because we all the sudden don't value big time matchups
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In reply to IowaBear • 1:38p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
So we're excusing poor results in KC as not valuing games?
And for what it's worth I don't expect us to win tonight. But not because we all the sudden don't value big time matchups
If CSD truly valued winning a big 12 tournament our results would show that. I think the last time we made it to a final was like 2012 or 2014. CSD gears his teams for the tournament that matters.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:41p, 3/15/24
Or we just struggle up there. Don't see the point in making baseless excuses.
We just suck in KC nothing more nothing less
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In reply to IowaBear • 1:45p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
Or we just struggle up there. Don't see the point in making baseless excuses.
We just suck in KC nothing more nothing less
Yeah, agree we suck in this. He is not deliberately tanking games but you can sense a lack of urgency. Playing 2 or 3 days in a row can be mentally / physically exhausting and exposes a team to injury risk. Not sure it's really worth expending the energy if it won't even help seeding that much. For a team needing to win or make it to the finals to make the tournament, obviously there is motivation.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:49p, 3/15/24
I'm not saying we need to win the thing yearly or anything crazy like that. But getting a win or 2 ain't the worst thing. And we absolutely have a chance to improve seeding with a win tonight.
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In reply to IowaBear • 1:51p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
I'm not saying we need to win the thing yearly or anything crazy like that. But getting a win or 2 ain't the worst thing. And we absolutely have a chance to improve seeding with a win tonight.
It might help our seeding. Could we improve to a 2 seed with a win over ISU?
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 1:59p, 3/15/24
Very possible. Creighton losing helped us a ton. It's too bad Marquette hung on last night for it would have been a perfect evening.
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In reply to IowaBear • 2:00p, 3/15/24
There are actually interviews in past years. I thought it sounded like nonsense too until I heard him alluding to not minding the extra rest. Some version of this repeated multiple times. And comments like its "so difficult to play so many games and then turnaround and play the next week."

So not outright tanking but it definitely wasn't the most disappointing thing to him to lose in the conference tournament. The team came out like it.

I think this year is different due to the double bye and a real shot to maximize time with a team with "only" one season together.
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2:42p, 3/15/24
Suckered a buddy into some $15 tickets! Headed to KC shortly! Probably gonna pull the old wear ISU gear and root for BU strategy.
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In reply to Crawfoso1973 • 3:03p, 3/15/24
Crawfoso1973 said:
ScottS said:
No way we lose to these clowns
Realistically we have a high probability of losing to them. Historically under CSD we really don't value advancing in the big 12 tourney.
And Iowa State is usually really tough in KC. They take that place over every year.
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In reply to IowaBear • 3:04p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
Suckered a buddy into some $15 tickets! Headed to KC shortly! Probably gonna pull the old wear ISU gear and root for BU strategy.
time for a pre-game nap.

go bears!!

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In reply to Quinton • 3:05p, 3/15/24
Quinton said:
There are actually interviews in past years. I thought it sounded like nonsense too until I heard him alluding to not minding the extra rest. Some version of this repeated multiple times. And comments like its "so difficult to play so many games and then turnaround and play the next week."

So not outright tanking but it definitely wasn't the most disappointing thing to him to lose in the conference tournament. The team came out like it.

I think this year is different due to the double bye and a real shot to maximize time with a team with "only" one season together.
And it shows in the way we've rested healthy-ish players in this event. Langston Love's surprise absence last night was not the first such instance.

Drew never seems to treat the conference tournament with much urgency. I don't think we want to lose these games or try to lose them intentionally. But it's pretty clear we don't take them as seriously as we do games in the conference season or in the NCAA tournament.
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In reply to IowaBear • 3:07p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
Suckered a buddy into some $15 tickets! Headed to KC shortly! Probably gonna pull the old wear ISU gear and root for BU strategy.


What is your connection to Iowa? You grew up there and went to BU?
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In reply to boognish_bear • 3:13p, 3/15/24
Nope didn't go to BU. Graduated from ISU.. shocker I know.
Long story short I went with my old man, uncle, grandpa to a job they did in Waco wayyyy back in the day. Anyways they took me to a BU vs Texas game at Floyd Casey. BU got drilled by 40 something. Fell in love with BU that day and have stuck with them ever since. Guess I shouldn't say way back in the day I'm only 31.
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In reply to IowaBear • 3:43p, 3/15/24
IowaBear said:
Nope didn't go to BU. Graduated from ISU.. shocker I know.
Long story short I went with my old man, uncle, grandpa to a job they did in Waco wayyyy back in the day. Anyways they took me to a BU vs Texas game at Floyd Casey. BU got drilled by 40 something. Fell in love with BU that day and have stuck with them ever since. Guess I shouldn't say way back in the day I'm only 31.


Interesting path to Baylor fandom. Thanks for sharing the backstory IB.
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4:00p, 3/15/24
Maybe we start the game attacking the rim instead of launching 15 3's right off the bat?
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In reply to dstaylor57 • 4:13p, 3/15/24
The 3s will fall tonight.. because of the double bye we couldn't shoot in the arena till gameday
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In reply to boognish_bear • 4:25p, 3/15/24
Np Boog!
Y'all enjoy the game tonight. Headed down to KC. Will be fun win or lose
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In reply to IowaBear • 4:27p, 3/15/24
Hey appreciate you going looks like iowa state might sell out so we need all who can be there to help there!
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In reply to boognish_bear • 4:42p, 3/15/24
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This was yesterday



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5:29p, 3/15/24
Sic 'em Bears!!
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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In reply to IowaBear • 5:36p, 3/15/24
You're just a young whipper-snapper!

It will be more fun with the dub.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
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6:01p, 3/15/24
Quick start Bears. It's got to happen one of these games.
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In reply to Mothballs • 6:37p, 3/15/24
This is what sucks for Baylor fans with the Big 12 tourney. Way harder to drive from anywhere in Texas to KC. Over 7 hours from Dallas, close to 8 from Waco. I would rather save my travel funds to go to NCAA, but it sucks for our team. I wish Dallas would have had better turn outs.
Bear living in the woods of Bend Oregon
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