Gameday Thread: Baylor MBB Closes Regular Season against No. 3 Houston

Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Bearwhiz said:

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Team just isn't any good. Only 3 starters contribute. You get nothing from the bench. Team can't shoot

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I agree. Wright and Nunn missed a few really good looks from 3. Roach couldn't hit a shot and had a few nice midrange looks. Team just straight up can't shoot.

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Just started watching basketball, did you?

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Explain. Always light on any specifics I see. Again Nunn, Roach, and Wright were terrible shooting the basketball.

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Your comments are very "light" on evidence to support your screed.

I simply observe the condition.

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That's what I figured, you have nothing. If you don't know the game say so. Combined shooting of 18% for those three is pretty damn specific

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I know enough of the game to recognize someone who posts only to show his spite.

Your venom is not a good look, son.

Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Bearwhiz said:

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Team just isn't any good. Only 3 starters contribute. You get nothing from the bench. Team can't shoot

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I agree. Wright and Nunn missed a few really good looks from 3. Roach couldn't hit a shot and had a few nice midrange looks. Team just straight up can't shoot.

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Just started watching basketball, did you?

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Explain. Always light on any specifics I see. Again Nunn, Roach, and Wright were terrible shooting the basketball.

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Your comments are very "light" on evidence to support your screed.

I simply observe the condition.

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That's what I figured, you have nothing. If you don't know the game say so. Combined shooting of 18% for those three is pretty damn specific

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I know enough of the game to recognize someone who posts only to show his spite.

Your venom is not a good look, son.

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Same tired vague nonsense

Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Oldbear83 said:

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Quinton said:

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Bearwhiz said:

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Team just isn't any good. Only 3 starters contribute. You get nothing from the bench. Team can't shoot

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I agree. Wright and Nunn missed a few really good looks from 3. Roach couldn't hit a shot and had a few nice midrange looks. Team just straight up can't shoot.

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Just started watching basketball, did you?

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Explain. Always light on any specifics I see. Again Nunn, Roach, and Wright were terrible shooting the basketball.

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Your comments are very "light" on evidence to support your screed.

I simply observe the condition.

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That's what I figured, you have nothing. If you don't know the game say so. Combined shooting of 18% for those three is pretty damn specific

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I know enough of the game to recognize someone who posts only to show his spite.

Your venom is not a good look, son.

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Same tired vague nonsense

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Yes, you do post a lot of that.

Not sure about this metric. Is it saying based on the quality of our looks we got we should have had 74 points?

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Have seen this sporadically throughout the season. I don't know enough about the metric and how it determines quality of shot vs the players' ability to make that particular shot.

But last I saw, this had Bu at top 4 overall based on expected value on shot quality. Interesting idea but not familiar enough with their model.

Quinton said:

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Have seen this sporadically throughout the season. I don't know enough about the metric and how it determines quality of shot vs the players' ability to make that particular shot.

But last I saw, this had Bu at top 4 overall based on expected value on shot quality. Interesting idea but not familiar enough with their model.

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We miss a lot of really good looks every game, so it wouldn't surprise me if this is accurate.

TXBEAR_bf said:

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I don't think that is totally fair. He has been a little up and down, but worlds better than Roach. He is the only player other than VJ that can get into the paint. He is a Freshman playing starting Pg, not sure what you expected, but I'll take what he gave below.

Against
@ UCONN - 22
@Tech - 15,
@ ISU - 10
@ Arizona - 16
@ BYU - 22 - he was the only reason we were in that game.

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Agreed, Wright is a stud and deserves whatever Brinks truck backs up to pay him, which will hopefully be us. He is not perfect and absolutely has things to work on specifically his terrible defense and his habit of over-penetrating which leads to mindless turnovers. But he is more than holding his own while starting at PG as a true freshman which is the most mentally and physically challenging position in college basketball. The talent is there for him to take off next year after an offseason of development. We really need to prioritize getting him to stick around another year or two.

MRPorter7635 said:

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I would layoff CSD. He did not forget how to coach. I think this team probably very frustrating for him.

The players make some dumb plays.

The mistake were made with roster construction. Can only reset and make better personnel decisions next year.

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Look I love Scott Drew but this constant don't touch the Lord's anointed with him is typic sunshine pumper baylor fan crap.

It's no secret he's never been an elite x's and o's coach and he's never been the guy to bring the team discipline. He's an elite motivator, he's historically been an elite evaluator at both the coaching and player level. He's a "players coach." But he's not effective at being the tough guy you sometimes have to be as a coach, in the past he had guys like Tang for that etc and it was fine, the current staff clearly can't do that. Look at all our former assistant coaches with head coaching jobs, Drew has done an elite job identifying and bringing in really smart x's and o's guys, and other areas that make our assistants so good.

Yes the roster construction sucks, it was clearly in the offseason on we weren't doing it right when we decided to roll the dice with Love's health, projecting Nunn as a starter, and never being seriously in play for someone who can play the 3/4 position with Bridges leaving.

Having said that this team has major issues with fundamentals for long stretches of games, that's coaching and team discipline not a roster construction issue. Drew's had a bad year at roster construction and STAFF construction, he needs to go back to the drawing board and figure both out. If he's a stick in the mud on it like he has been for 3 years in a row now we'll keep playing like this or worse. His greatest strength used to be adjustment but he seems to keep doubling down recently instead of adjusting. In no way am I calling for his head, but the idea we can't call him out for a really bad year of coaching is totally crazy to me, we've been bad in almost all phases this year, we've just been able to out talent our lesser opponents.

I appreciate your well thought out and expressed opinion. I agree that improvements need to me made with roster construction and some of the other areas you mentioned.

I also agree with you and my point was that CSD should not be fired.

People even thinking of firing Scott Drew are just crazy. (Which you are not thinking of firing him.)

Very few programs have had the same or greater success than Baylor over the last 10 years

We went to the Elite 8 15 years ago. His record of success exceeds 10 years.

Scott can recruit elite talent and keep them committed to Baylor. It doesn't matter how great a teacher and strategist you are if you don't have talented players. His best skill is the most important skill.

BUCANDOIT82 said:

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We went to the Elite 8 15 years ago. His record of success exceeds 10 years.

Scott can recruit elite talent and keep them committed to Baylor. It doesn't matter how great a teacher and strategist you are if you don't have talented players. His best skill is the most important skill.

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It's not the most important skill, honestly the team that won the Natty spits in the face of that being the most important skill. Managing the right players with good coaching is always more important than talent acquisition.

Drews best star rating players and teams have not typically lead to the best success. Perry Jones and Quincy Miller are the only 5* that made it past the sweet 16 and that was the same team and neither was a team leader on that run. Have any of our other five stars made a sweet 16 even? I'd have to check it's not coming top of mind.

They did indeed go to the elite 8 15 years ago. I was not trying to diminish the achievements. Only picked 10 years because that was enough to make the point.