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10 Things: Baylor Still Searching for Consistency, Despite Win over Oklahoma State

A strong second half pushed Baylor past Oklahoma State, yet sloppy stretches and missed assignments left real questions about how far this team can go.
September 27, 2025
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Will Boles gives his 10 top things from Baylor’s 45-27 victory over Oklahoma State.


1. Let Bryson Washington run!

Bryson Washington showed once again why Baylor rides him. He carried the ball 10 times for 77 yards (7.7 ypc) and a touchdown, highlighted by a 19-yard scoring run in the second quarter. His burst and physicality gave Baylor consistent momentum on the ground, forcing OSU defenders to respect the run and opening up play-action opportunities. When Washington stays active, Baylor’s offense hums.

2. Trick plays???

Oklahoma State was rolling out surprises all game. They ran a double pass for a score, used a wide receiver throw and leaned hard into misdirection after the firing of Mike Gundy to shake Baylor’s defense. Those wrinkles kept Baylor honest. The Bears had to stay disciplined and guard against overpursuing. Though the offense answered big, those trick plays made parts of the first half feel precarious.

3. Defensive success did NOT continue.

After flashes of improvement, Baylor’s defense slipped back into inconsistent form. In the first half, especially, fundamentals faltered — including missed tackles, blown coverages and alignment issues — and OSU stayed in the game. Though the unit tightened up later, the early lapses allowed OSU to hang around longer than Baylor would’ve hoped. That’s a problem when you expect to win big.

4. Both lines are still struggling, big time.

Even with Baylor favored, the trenches didn’t reflect domination. The Bears’ offensive line gave Sawyer Robertson just enough space, but occasional pressures and stalled run sets showed vulnerability. On the other side, Oklahoma State’s run defense gave up 219 rushing yards total, and their offensive line had trouble sustaining drives in pass protection. When both lines wobble, advantage goes to the more balanced team — and Baylor has that edge.

5. Baylor has a lot of talented running backs.

Washington is the headliner, but Baylor’s depth backs up that assertion. Caden Knighten contributed 81 yards on 5 carries (16.2 ypc), showing explosion. Michael Turner chipped in 38 yards. That kind of depth means Baylor can rotate backs and keep fresh legs in the game — a luxury many teams don’t have.

6. The receiving core is so good.

Baylor’s receivers made plays all over the field. Josh Cameron, Kole Wilson, Kobe Prentice and Michael Trigg — when they all get touches, it’s a nightmare for defensive coordinators. Their variety and chemistry let Baylor attack multiple levels every series.

7. Sawyer Robertson is awesome.

He threw 24 of 35 for 393 yards and four touchdowns, with no interceptions. That kind of efficiency under pressure is rare. Robertson kept his composure, hit throws late, and spread the ball around. This wasn’t a flash game. It was the kind of day you show as evidence when arguing that Baylor has a top-tier signal caller.

8. Good to see Sawyer take one in himself.

He didn’t just air it out — he ran it in late. On Baylor’s final touchdown drive, Robertson carried a two-yard rush into the end zone for his fifth score of the day. That kind of timely QB run makes you more dangerous, especially in goal-line or short-yardage situations. It tells defenses he’s a threat when the pocket closes — and that changes how they rush him.

9. Kyland Reed had some promising flashes.

Though the stat sheet didn’t jump out, Reed made his presence known on defense. He read plays quickly, filled gaps against the run, and showed the kind of speed that lets him cover ground sideline to sideline. His instincts put him in a position to affect plays even when he wasn’t the one making the tackle. Performances like this suggest Reed can develop into a steady contributor in Baylor’s linebacker rotation moving forward.

10. Second-half adjustments were great.

At halftime, Baylor led just 28-20, but what we saw in the third and fourth quarters was dominance. Baylor struck quickly with a 73-yard strike to Prentice, then methodically extended the advantage. The defense cleaned up coverage mistakes, the run game pushed forward and the offense maintained a balanced tempo. That kind of turnaround — when things weren’t smooth early — shows coaching, grit, and belief.

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10 Things: Baylor Still Searching for Consistency, Despite Win over Oklahoma State

18,741 Views | 55 Replies | Last: 2 mo ago by FLBear5630
FLBear5630
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Oldbear83 said:

<chuckles>

I didn't even have to answer FLBear, his post was destroyed by the posters after me.

And yeah, I AM consistent. I will praise Aranda if and when he shows some of the 'great coach' talent you keep pretending is under all those sub-par games he's had the last forty or so tries

I like the guy, I just won't pretend Steele-level coaching = Briles/Rhule-level coaching.



Know who you are... And more importantly, who you are not.


Destroyed? Yeah...
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Oldbear83 said:

<chuckles>

I didn't even have to answer FLBear, his post was destroyed by the posters after me.

And yeah, I AM consistent. I will praise Aranda if and when he shows some of the 'great coach' talent you keep pretending is under all those sub-par games he's had the last forty or so tries

I like the guy, I just won't pretend Steele-level coaching = Briles/Rhule-level coaching.

When you compare Aranda to Steele, you are so dramatically overstating your case that you render anything said around that comparison moot.

That's the type of unnecessary hyperbole I wish this board could get away from.

There are plenty of valid criticisms of Dave Aranda's coaching style and record. Make those arguments instead of resorting to silly and not remotely valid comparisons to one of the worst power conference coaches in the history of college football.
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bear2be2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

<chuckles>

I didn't even have to answer FLBear, his post was destroyed by the posters after me.

And yeah, I AM consistent. I will praise Aranda if and when he shows some of the 'great coach' talent you keep pretending is under all those sub-par games he's had the last forty or so tries

I like the guy, I just won't pretend Steele-level coaching = Briles/Rhule-level coaching.

When you compare Aranda to Steele, you are so dramatically overstating your case that you render anything said around that comparison moot.

That's the type of unnecessary hyperbole I wish this board could get away from.

There are plenty of valid criticisms of Dave Aranda's coaching style and record. Make those arguments instead of resorting to silly and not remotely valid comparisons to one of the worst power conference coaches in the history of college football.


Granted I exaggerated, but only in riposte to FLBear 's hilarious idea that Aranda brought the same excitement and swag to Baylor that Briles did.

Far too many people go to extremes when judging coaches. It's reasonable to accept someone just isn't up to the job without hating him, and it's reasonable to appreciate the good someone did without expecting perfection.

I respect Aranda's class and blame Briles for the harm he allowed, but even so it should be remembered that Briles made Baylor nationally relevant for years, while Aranda has put concrete shoes on our brand.
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IowaBear said:

A few defensive lapses? You must be joking. The defense is straight ass by every metric. Quit sugarcoating. You keep telling everyone else they don't know football while outing yourself as someone who doesn't know football. Quite ironic.


Let him have his lonely Aranda greatest Coach ever lunacy. Not worth your time. Did you catch the good image for the university? Aka DEI. That's all you need to know.
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Oldbear83 said:

bear2be2 said:

Oldbear83 said:

<chuckles>

I didn't even have to answer FLBear, his post was destroyed by the posters after me.

And yeah, I AM consistent. I will praise Aranda if and when he shows some of the 'great coach' talent you keep pretending is under all those sub-par games he's had the last forty or so tries

I like the guy, I just won't pretend Steele-level coaching = Briles/Rhule-level coaching.

When you compare Aranda to Steele, you are so dramatically overstating your case that you render anything said around that comparison moot.

That's the type of unnecessary hyperbole I wish this board could get away from.

There are plenty of valid criticisms of Dave Aranda's coaching style and record. Make those arguments instead of resorting to silly and not remotely valid comparisons to one of the worst power conference coaches in the history of college football.


Granted I exaggerated, but only in riposte to FLBear 's hilarious idea that Aranda brought the same excitement and swag to Baylor that Briles did.

Far too many people go to extremes when judging coaches. It's reasonable to accept someone just isn't up to the job without hating him, and it's reasonable to appreciate the good someone did without expecting perfection.

I respect Aranda's class and blame Briles for the harm he allowed, but even so it should be remembered that Briles made Baylor nationally relevant for years, while Aranda has put concrete shoes on our brand.


I didn't say that. I said he had horrible defenses and do you want to recruit that way again. The OSU game was a typical Briles game, score 45 with 600 yards and give up 28 and 400 yards. Check the box scores to refresh your memory, I know your old

You want to play with Bama and UGA you are going to have to take risks on players, big risks. Either that or someone is writing BIG NIL checks. So far taking risks has not done well for Baylor.


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WestUBears88 said:

IowaBear said:

A few defensive lapses? You must be joking. The defense is straight ass by every metric. Quit sugarcoating. You keep telling everyone else they don't know football while outing yourself as someone who doesn't know football. Quite ironic.


Let him have his lonely Aranda greatest Coach ever lunacy. Not worth your time. Did you catch the good image for the university? Aka DEI. That's all you need to know.


Greatest coach? What world do you guys live? There is a huge gap between greatest coach and not getting fired over a 3-2 start. Geez, you guys are ridiculous you make SEC fans look reasonable.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

<chuckles>

I didn't even have to answer FLBear, his post was destroyed by the posters after me.

And yeah, I AM consistent. I will praise Aranda if and when he shows some of the 'great coach' talent you keep pretending is under all those sub-par games he's had the last forty or so tries

I like the guy, I just won't pretend Steele-level coaching = Briles/Rhule-level coaching.



Know who you are... And more importantly, who you are not.


Destroyed? Yeah...

Destroyed is putting it mildly, my friend.
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FLBear: "I know your old"

Yes I am old.

But not stupid.

And at least I use proper punctuation.
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Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

We are still waiting to see Baylor clearly perform up to expectations

That happened in 2021, not sure how you missed it because it was the best season in BU football history.

You mean the time Rhule's guys won a title and Aranda managed not to mess it up

Nope, Rhule's guys went 2-7 in 2020, in 2021 Dave's guys went 12-2 and Big12 Champs and Sugar Bowl Champs. The fact that you don't recognize or celebrate that season is seriously bizarre.


Baylor fans certainly celebrate that season, but most fans acknowledge that it was Rhule's NFL caliber defensive players that won it. Rhule's players, not Dave's. This has been mentioned ad nauseum and you should certainly understand this by now.
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Delmar 2.0 said:

Johnny Bear said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

We are still waiting to see Baylor clearly perform up to expectations

That happened in 2021, not sure how you missed it because it was the best season in BU football history.

You mean the time Rhule's guys won a title and Aranda managed not to mess it up

Nope, Rhule's guys went 2-7 in 2020, in 2021 Dave's guys went 12-2 and Big12 Champs and Sugar Bowl Champs. The fact that you don't recognize or celebrate that season is seriously bizarre.

Rhule recruited the champions, not Aranda

Not all of them, and Dave was coaching them. You must be miserable having so much hate for your school.

Bottom line is Dave shoulda been fired years ago, and keeps proving so.

Years ago? You mean after he put up the best season in school history (12-2)? That was years ago.

....we aren't paying for a 6-6 to 7-5 HC and staff...

They did for Grant Teaff for 20 years, when did it change? Like I said Aranda is right on par for historical Baylor football.


Are you actually a real fan? You say this as if "historical Baylor football," which has mostly been average with a few spurts of success, is something to which we should aspire.
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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

We are still waiting to see Baylor clearly perform up to expectations

That happened in 2021, not sure how you missed it because it was the best season in BU football history.

You mean the time Rhule's guys won a title and Aranda managed not to mess it up?

No one seriously believes that was Aranda, not on the evidence of Aranda's actual results.


You do come up with some stuff...

I guess BU flew Rhule in for the wins? Aranda only coached the losses.

By the way, what is Joey's record against Aranda? Before you go there.





I never mentioned Joey, but it's telling how you bristle when St. Aranda's coaching prowess is challenged by his actual results.

Since 2021, when Aranda was able to use Rhule's guys, he has claimed one bowl and lost in pretty harsh fashion. Aranda's poop performances are so well known that with one loss ESPN already says we don't have a shot at the conference title.

No one not on drugs thinks Dave is up to the task but his family.



Same old Oldbear... At least you are consistent. Everything is personal. You did not answer my question.

What indicates to you that Baylor football is some powerhouse underperforming? Briles had to recruit "bad dudes" in his own words to compete and had a putrid defense. Rhule had one season in which he lost to EVERY ranked team he played and bolted to the NFL.

The rest of Baylor football history is a bunch of one-offs, like most schools like Baylor. For some reason you guys think this is USC and we are playing like BYU. BYU has had more historic success.

Aranda is doing fine. He recruits, he is competitive and is a good ambassador for BU. MOST of all he does not cause embarrassment or shame, which is a low bar at most schools. But here with the history??? It is worth a few defensive lapses. If you think this team is better than ASU or Auburn but played down, you do not know football. With the talent we get, BU is doing fine.






From what I"m reading here, it looks like you are ok with .500 football. I'm not ok with average. Most aren't.
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Guitarbiscuit said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

Oldbear83 said:

We are still waiting to see Baylor clearly perform up to expectations

That happened in 2021, not sure how you missed it because it was the best season in BU football history.

You mean the time Rhule's guys won a title and Aranda managed not to mess it up?

No one seriously believes that was Aranda, not on the evidence of Aranda's actual results.


You do come up with some stuff...

I guess BU flew Rhule in for the wins? Aranda only coached the losses.

By the way, what is Joey's record against Aranda? Before you go there.





I never mentioned Joey, but it's telling how you bristle when St. Aranda's coaching prowess is challenged by his actual results.

Since 2021, when Aranda was able to use Rhule's guys, he has claimed one bowl and lost in pretty harsh fashion. Aranda's poop performances are so well known that with one loss ESPN already says we don't have a shot at the conference title.

No one not on drugs thinks Dave is up to the task but his family.



Same old Oldbear... At least you are consistent. Everything is personal. You did not answer my question.

What indicates to you that Baylor football is some powerhouse underperforming? Briles had to recruit "bad dudes" in his own words to compete and had a putrid defense. Rhule had one season in which he lost to EVERY ranked team he played and bolted to the NFL.

The rest of Baylor football history is a bunch of one-offs, like most schools like Baylor. For some reason you guys think this is USC and we are playing like BYU. BYU has had more historic success.

Aranda is doing fine. He recruits, he is competitive and is a good ambassador for BU. MOST of all he does not cause embarrassment or shame, which is a low bar at most schools. But here with the history??? It is worth a few defensive lapses. If you think this team is better than ASU or Auburn but played down, you do not know football. With the talent we get, BU is doing fine.






From what I"m reading here, it looks like you are ok with .500 football. I'm not ok with average. Most aren't.


Do you even read before commenting? 4 losses and a mid level bowl is what I have repeatedly said. ASU and Auburn were always losses. Right on schedule.

Picking apart games on individual metric or indicators is a fools errand (a saying, not you), you can always find something in the minutia.

Our RBs missed their monuments in outside zone 55% of the time! Oh ***** A real D will end our running game! Our CBs bit on the QB and gave up contain on the pitch! If we face the 1975 OU team we would get killed! It can go on forever. Fire the D-Coord...

This was not a game to tear apart. We scored 45, we ran effectively, we made adjustments on D at halftime, we won on the road, conference game, healthy. All good things and better than weeks 1-4. Let's see how next game goes. One at a time.

I am sure there will be opportunities to yell Aranda doesn't know how to coach coming this season. There are every season for every coach. This wasn't one.

4 losses tops. Mid level bowl. I would like to see bowl win. Those are my expectations.

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Auburn and ASU were both winnable, especially with Sawyer and our receivers. The only reason to believe they were "always losses" is if you understood Aranda wasn't good enough.
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Oldbear83 said:

Auburn and ASU were both winnable, especially with Sawyer and our receivers. The only reason to believe they were "always losses" is if you understood Aranda wasn't good enough.

They are both good teams. Baylor beats Auburn it would have been an upset. ASU will probably win the B12.

Auburn is a good team and getting them right out of the blocks, was in my opinion, not a positive. ASU, I picked to win the B12. They have more coming back and transferring in than people realize. They were a good betting pick as most focused on losing Skatteboo and the WRs, but they got some nice pieces in the portal. Aranda doesn't play into the analysis.

The Defense does. Pass D was bad last year, it improved. But, we lost some up front. Sorry, for me and what I have seen in College football over the last 40 years schools like Baylor typically are good on one side of the ball or another. Just not enough resources to fill both, NIL has made it worse. BU has been an Offensive school since 2012 and Briles. When we get average to good D, we play on New Years Day. Sorry, in my opinion, its the horses not the coaching. There are reasons these players are at Baylor and not UGA or Michigan, usually it shows itself in one on ones (pass D) or on the lines.

My opinions are based on more than I like Dave. I don't know Dave. But he has done a good job of keeping BU out of the news, is competitive and wants to be at Baylor not looking for every job that pays a bit more.

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FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Auburn and ASU were both winnable, especially with Sawyer and our receivers. The only reason to believe they were "always losses" is if you understood Aranda wasn't good enough.

They are both good teams. Baylor beats Auburn it would have been an upset. ASU will probably win the B12.

Auburn is a good team and getting them right out of the blocks, was in my opinion, not a positive. ASU, I picked to win the B12. They have more coming back and transferring in than people realize. They were a good betting pick as most focused on losing Skatteboo and the WRs, but they got some nice pieces in the portal. Aranda doesn't play into the analysis.

The Defense does. Pass D was bad last year, it improved. But, we lost some up front. Sorry, for me and what I have seen in College football over the last 40 years schools like Baylor typically are good on one side of the ball or another. Just not enough resources to fill both, NIL has made it worse. BU has been an Offensive school since 2012 and Briles. When we get average to good D, we play on New Years Day. Sorry, in my opinion, its the horses not the coaching. There are reasons these players are at Baylor and not UGA or Michigan, usually it shows itself in one on ones (pass D) or on the lines.

My opinions are based on more than I like Dave. I don't know Dave. But he has done a good job of keeping BU out of the news, is competitive and wants to be at Baylor not looking for every job that pays a bit more.



If our goal is primarily to keep BU football out of the news, let's be honest enough to change the B in BU to Bushleague or Backwater.
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canoso said:

FLBear5630 said:

Oldbear83 said:

Auburn and ASU were both winnable, especially with Sawyer and our receivers. The only reason to believe they were "always losses" is if you understood Aranda wasn't good enough.

They are both good teams. Baylor beats Auburn it would have been an upset. ASU will probably win the B12.

Auburn is a good team and getting them right out of the blocks, was in my opinion, not a positive. ASU, I picked to win the B12. They have more coming back and transferring in than people realize. They were a good betting pick as most focused on losing Skatteboo and the WRs, but they got some nice pieces in the portal. Aranda doesn't play into the analysis.

The Defense does. Pass D was bad last year, it improved. But, we lost some up front. Sorry, for me and what I have seen in College football over the last 40 years schools like Baylor typically are good on one side of the ball or another. Just not enough resources to fill both, NIL has made it worse. BU has been an Offensive school since 2012 and Briles. When we get average to good D, we play on New Years Day. Sorry, in my opinion, its the horses not the coaching. There are reasons these players are at Baylor and not UGA or Michigan, usually it shows itself in one on ones (pass D) or on the lines.

My opinions are based on more than I like Dave. I don't know Dave. But he has done a good job of keeping BU out of the news, is competitive and wants to be at Baylor not looking for every job that pays a bit more.



If our goal is primarily to keep BU football out of the news, let's be honest enough to change the B in BU to bushleague or backwater.

Got you. Fire Aranda...



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I do read. I learned to read in 12th grade.

It did appear you are ok with 7-5. That's what I gathered. I hope I'm incorrect in my interpretation of what you wrote.
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I do read. I learned to read in 12th grade.

It did appear you are ok with 7-5. That's what I gathered. I hope I'm incorrect in my interpretation of what you wrote.

4 is not 5...


I wrote 4 losses, mid-level bowl and hopefully a bowl win.
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8-4 is ok with you? Not me. Not in this year's Big 12. Not in year 6.


FLBear5630 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

I do read. I learned to read in 12th grade.

It did appear you are ok with 7-5. That's what I gathered. I hope I'm incorrect in my interpretation of what you wrote.

4 is not 5...


I wrote 4 losses, mid-level bowl and hopefully a bowl win.
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Guitarbiscuit said:

8-4 is ok with you? Not me. Not in this year's Big 12. Not in year 6.


FLBear5630 said:

Guitarbiscuit said:

I do read. I learned to read in 12th grade.

It did appear you are ok with 7-5. That's what I gathered. I hope I'm incorrect in my interpretation of what you wrote.

4 is not 5...


I wrote 4 losses, mid-level bowl and hopefully a bowl win.



I don't see this as a special year. 8-4 is a good year.

  • We should always go to a bowl.
  • Always be at least 500.
  • Always be competitive in games, not determined until the last 5 minutes or so if we lose.
  • I would like to have a few NFL kids to follow.
  • I would like beat our rivals.
  • Go to Conf Championship every 5 years and even win once in a while.
I don't think Aranda is that far off that bar for a Baylor type school and his salary.
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