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The 2018 Offseason: Inventing airplanes or parachutes?

November 24, 2017
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Following its 12-game regular season schedule, Baylor is headed to the offseason with a momentum that can be found by those willing to dive into the game film and see the progressions made consistently on both sides of the balls. Those unwilling to do so will sit through the offseason with the thought that there are too many large steps to be made before Matt Rhule will find similar success of recent seasons.

There are steps to be made, gaps to be filled, and talent to be brought in, cultivated and grown. But that's that part of any process, Baylor just happened to be behind the curve when Matt Rhule arrived last December. His staff rallied the troops to pull together 27 signees in two months with three additional impact transfers that were ineligible play in 2017.

Now it's time to watch 23 of those 27 freshmen to go through their first offseason program and three former U.S. Army All Americans be welcomed to the depth chart.

“If we’re not tough enough, we have to spend the offseason getting tougher," Rhule said. "If we’re just not talented enough, then we have to continue to develop. We have to really take this as an honest look at ourselves and say, ‘where are we deficient?”

"I also think you get through the league, and you see, ‘okay, how strong are we compared to everybody else? How fast are we compared to everybody else? Where do we need to improve? Where do we need to focus our recruiting?’ We’ve played a lot of veteran teams, and I’m not talking about our youth."

Baylor fans, tip your hats to Taion Sells, Brian Nance, Mo Porter, Jordan Feuerbacher, Davion Hall, Tyrae Simmons, Taylor Young, Chance Waz, Quan Jones, KJ Smith, Ishmail Wainright, Daniel Russell, Blake Murphy, Tyler Jaynes, Iain Hunter and Johnathan Hockman for the undeniable leadership they showed over the last 12 months.

Now it's time to see how the masterplan should fit together after a season full of disappointment.

"(The season has) meant a lot to me in terms of learning Baylor," Rhule said. "We’ve changed practice schedules as we’ve tried to make sure that we push our players, but at the same time don’t sacrifice their grades and give them the best opportunity to be in study hall. There’s been a lot of learning curve from the league to our players to just how things work here, and I think we’ve settled in on a lot of things."


Defensive install still on course

Rhule bringing Phil Snow's defensive scheme down to Texas, one that was marked as the third-ranked defense nationally at Temple in 2016, was one of the most intriguing pieces for Baylor fans after seeing a high-flying offense be the showcased unit for the previous nine seasons.

Unfortunately, that plan on defense didn't result in immediate success in Waco. The improvement made throughout the course of the season was noticeable, but it shouldn't come as a surprise that it wasn't in full swing in 2017. A depleted roster should receive partial blame, but Baylor defensive coordinator Phil Snow said to open spring practice that his defense would require significant time to install, much less be understood entirely.

"We’re just going to put in our base this spring and I’m not sure we will complete that," Snow said. "But we’ve got to be smart on not going too fast. But I want to introduce what I want to introduce, right? So that over the summer and fall camp they’ve heard the terminology and have lined up in certain defenses and then we will get into our third-down packages and second and long in fall camp."

Redshirt senior safety Taion Sells noted the differences in what the scheme asked of the defense compared to what they had previously learned.

“It’s a complicated defense," Sells said.

"In the last defense there wasn’t that many calls and checks we had to make. In this defense, by formations and different formations they come out in, we have to make different checks. That’s the most complicated thing about it."

As the season progressed it became evident that the defense was better understanding what was being asked of them as the execution, specifically on third downs, one of the last areas to be installed in fall camp. Through the first seven games of the season, the Baylor defense was giving up 44-percent conversion on third downs. Through the final five, the Bears gave up less than 35 percent.

Rhule mentioned in the spring the complication of the defense beginning not only with a thick playbook, but also the need for Snow's players to learn what opposing offenses were attempting to do before ever beginning on defense.

"Coach Snow’s is pretty thick, but a lot of it’s because Coach Snow starts out by making the kids all learn the offensive formations then makes them all learn the offensive routes," Rhule said. "So if you play defense for Coach Snow you learn offense before you ever begin to learn defense and that’s part of a comprehensive building of a player."

As the scheme continues to marinate through another offseason, Rhule believes the trend will continue in even more of a positive direction.

"This will continue to develop through the offseason," Rhule said. "It’ll continue to develop through the spring. They’ll look back in a year and be like, ‘oh my goodness, look where we were to where we are now."


Offensive issues not unexpected with scheme changes, personnel issues

After a 2017 offseason where the Bears saw a host of offensive linemen leave the program, it became evident that the Bears offense would go as the offensive line would go. And that has proven to be true.

The Baylor offense finished the season ranked as the No. 5 unit in Big 12 play behind Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia and Texas Tech, and just ahead of TCU. However, that was despite an offensive line that helped crank out less than 110.0 yards rushing per game, best for eighth in the conference, and finished ranking ninth in red zone offense, scoring just five rushing touchdowns once getting inside the 20-yard line.

But it wasn't only the personnel deficiencies that caused struggles in key running situations.  Offensive line coach George DeLeone and junior offensive lineman Blake Blackmar each addressed the change in scheme on the offensive line in the spring.

Shifting from an offense that was focused primarily on tempo to one that asked players to use technique to win individual battles, the group of linemen needed to dismiss multiple years of coaching to make room for something brand new.

“It’s been humbling because you have been doing one thing the last couple of years and gained some success and have developed a lot of habits and you kind of have to break a lot of those habits and start over from square one," Blackmar stated in the spring. "So there’s always some headbutting and you always go back to your old habits which may have been good under the old system and now they’re not exactly helping you."

DeLeone felt similarly on the offensive line as the group made their way through spring drills.

"These kids were excellent in their system, but the system is different," DeLeone said. "They were well coached and did a hell of a job in the previous system, ours is just a little bit different. The biggest changes are going to be - I think up front just from a fundamentals, technique standpoint, you talk to 10 different line coaches you will have 10 different ways to do things, but my way is one of the 10."

As much as been made of the playbook for quarterbacks, running backs and receivers, Blackmar noted the workload for the offensive linemen being something that would take some time to learn.

"It’s something you can go back to if you have a question or look over right before we have practice ‘cause there’s a lot more to this offense than the old offense," Blackmar said. "At least for us, I know the quarterbacks had 12,000 reads and all that stuff that made the old offense work, but this is most definitely a much larger of an offensive scheme for the offensive line to handle, but I think it’s coming along well.”

Similar to the defense, the offensive line has found improved success from the early portion of the season to the end, just as was expected when a more in-depth scheme was being implemented.

Excluding their season opener against FCS Liberty, a game which the Bears lost, the Bears rushed for less than 85 yards per. Through the final seven, the Bears improved that average by nearly 30 yards per game despite playing a much tougher schedule. It was still a far cry from where the group hopes to be, but with the personnel issues at hand, the progress was more than fair.


Experienced transfers, another offseason will give Bears maturity

As the old saying goes, the best part about freshmen is they become sophomores. Considering the circumstances, that can be applied to the entire Baylor roster who will enter an offseason program with a year of a brand new offensive and defensive system under their built.

The fact that the group is young (28 of 44 players listed on Baylor's depth chart for the season finale against TCU were freshmen or sophomores) is just a bonus in terms of the system being in place without much turnover after the first season.

"You have to kind of in your mind say, ‘what will we look like when we’re a veteran team?" Rhule said. "What will we look like when we have three senior offensive linemen out there next year?’ I think going through the league helps you say, ‘what can our guys do? Where do we need to improve?"

While it's tough to project exactly what depth chart breakdowns for 2018 will look like, the team will naturally be older and more experienced when transfers Jake Fruhmorgen (OL/JR), Christian Beard (OL/JR), James Lockhart (DL/JR) and Jalen Hurd (WR/SR) are eligible to play.

“I think Christian Beard, sitting out coming in from UCF. He would have helped us this year. Jake Fruhmorgen. Started two years at Clemson. When you have a great player like Mo [Porter] graduating, we are hopeful that Jake can come in and help. Jalen Hurd was like 400 yards away from being Tennessee’s all-time leading rusher. He’s an elite athlete and an elite player. He’s a competitive, competitive, competitive football player. I think he’ll bring a tremendous amount to the team. James Lockhart sat out this year after spending two years at A&M. I don’t know that there is anyone more bought into our process, the way we practice, the way we do things, the attention to detail. He’s down there on the scout team defense and he makes the scout team defense guys do everything that Phil [Snow] makes the defense do. He’s training them right now."


Key Bears returning from season-ending injuries

Chris Platt and KJ Smith were set to play big roles for the Bears on offense and defense in 2017, but both players saw their seasons cut short with injuries.

Platt, a junior wide receiver, tore his ACL in the fourth game of the season against Oklahoma after catching 16 passes for 401 yards and five touchdowns. Smith, a senior defensive end, saw his season cut short after the first game of 2017 when shin splints put him on the sideline for good.

While Platt is on his way to recovery and set to return for his senior season, Smith is now in the process of filing paperwork in order to receive a sixth year of eligibility from the NCAA. Head coach Matt Rhule mentioned the significance of a player like Smith opting to return to the program.

“I would say this, I think the fact that KJ would like to come back and play for us is such a significant statement by him. I think he was grateful that we wanted him back. I said, ‘Are you kidding me?’ KJ Smith is a good student, he’s a really good person. He’s been hurt all year, and all he does is every Monday night when the d-line comes to my office and gets chicken and watches football, he’s there. He sits in every meeting, he’s there to support his teammates. He’s battled through the adversity. So, we’ve never really seen K.J. healthy. But, when he’s healthy, he’s a really, really good football player. So, there’s a very positive football effect."

Along with Platt and Smith, the Bears will also see the return of linebacker Clay Johnston to the defense. Johnston, who battled through the season with a hand and foot injury, totaled 54 tackles, 9.0 tackles for loss and 1.0 sacks in Baylor's first eight games of the season.


Charlie Brewer finishes freshman campaign showing high upside

Despite playing less than three-quarters of the game against TCU, freshman QB Charlie Brewer continued his hot streak since taking over the starting role when Zach Smith went out with a shoulder injury against Texas.

In four starts against Iowa State, Kansas, Texas Tech and TCU, Brewer averaged 308.8 yards passing on 70.7-percent passing with 10 touchdowns and three interceptions. Brewer also put up 107 yards rushing in the four contest.

But it was the performance in the season finale that should excite Baylor fans for spring football and the 2018 season. Prior exiting the contest with 1:33 to go in the third quarter, Brewer completed 19 of 29 passes for 301 yards and rushed 9 times for 59 yards despite being sacked multiple times.

However, like all freshmen will do, Brewer showed a tendency of turning the ball over in the four games which he started despite all of the positives put on display. Along with the three interceptions in the four games, Brewer put the ball on the ground in key situations against Texas Tech and TCU.


“Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute.” — Gil Stern

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The 2018 Offseason: Inventing airplanes or parachutes?

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BellCountyBear
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Rhule needs to have enough humility to realize that his conditioning program may not be up to snuff for Big12 competition and get some help in this area. The amount of injuries he experienced this season was more than just "bad luck".
cowboycwr
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Is that really the best picture of Rhule to use? He looks defeated and like he is lost.
Bear8084
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Interesting stat was the offense finished as the #5 unit in the Big 12.
Pale Rider
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cowboycwr said:

Is that really the best picture of Rhule to use? He looks defeated and like he is lost.

Sure doesn't convey much of a positive forward looking statement does it.
Baylor Wilson
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Not much of a pessimist if they believe they are getting off the ground...
RioRata
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cowboycwr said:

Is that really the best picture of Rhule to use? He looks defeated and like he is lost.

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BUbearinARK
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Can't wait for the rest of recruiting and spring!
I’m an optimist!

And /S in case I missed it

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Bearupnobly
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Unfortunately the purpose of this article, filled with a recounting of our rosters woes as it should be, was to state the writer's contempt for the opinions of others: "If you watched as much film as I did, you would be as smart as I am and have the same opinions as I do." Inadvertently he also exposed two major problems that are not amenable to film study. The first was the complexity of Coach Snow's defense, in that the coach himself stated that the team would not be playing with an adequately complete version of the defense (just read his goals for spring and fall camps). Little surprise that the players had no idea even how to line up.
The more damning evidence came from Coach DeLeon, who said that the players he inherited were well-trained and had been successful in their former style of blocking assignments and techniques, but that former style just wasn't his. So he took an undermanned group of players and decided that it was more important to teach his style than it was to be successful and maybe win games that to adapt what he knew to the skills of his players.
The DC and the OL coach believed it was better to lose this year and install their own systems. Though head coach has yet to take responsibility for such executive leadership, I doubt that these two coaches were acting on their own initiative. Arrogance or wisdom? See, you don't have to watch film to ask reductionist questions or guess what might happen next year.
tl;dr-Coaches had an unstated agenda which included a strong possibility of a losing season. That may\will happen next year despite film study.
BUbearinARK
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Bearupnobly said:

Unfortunately the purpose of this article, filled with a recounting of our rosters woes as it should be, was to state the writer's contempt for the opinions of others: "If you watched as much film as I did, you would be as smart as I am and have the same opinions as I do." Inadvertently he also exposed two major problems that are not amenable to film study. The first was the complexity of Coach Snow's defense, in that the coach himself stated that the team would not be playing with an adequately complete version of the defense (just read his goals for spring and fall camps). Little surprise that the players had no idea even how to line up.
The more damning evidence came from Coach DeLeon, who said that the players he inherited were well-trained and had been successful in their former style of blocking assignments and techniques, but that former style just wasn't his. So he took an undermanned group of players and decided that it was more important to teach his style than it was to be successful and maybe win games that to adapt what he knew to the skills of his players.
The DC and the OL coach believed it was better to lose this year and install their own systems. Though head coach has yet to take responsibility for such executive leadership, I doubt that these two coaches were acting on their own initiative. Arrogance or wisdom? See, you don't have to watch film to ask reductionist questions or guess what might happen next year.
tl;dr-Coaches had an unstated agenda which included a strong possibility of a losing season. That may\will happen next year despite film study.
Totally get it! Parachute guy.
I’m an optimist!

And /S in case I missed it

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Baylor Wilson
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This is exactly what the problem is. These coaches walked in and saw players taught new and current methods and they did not know what to do. Our team was taught how to best opponents bigger and stronger than them and the coaching staff used speed and the length of the field to help them compete. Now CMR and his staff are trying to read out of their dusty scrolls to compete against the real air raid teams of college football and could only beat Kansas. I try to be optimistic by reminding myself that June Jones went 1-11 his first year then 8-5 in his second. The old, prostyle ways take longer to teach, longer to adjust to, but it obviously can work in the end. Doubtful we'll ever have another conference championship without an actual offense that will give our team a chance against top-tier talent. Hopefully, Nixon and Thomas have something brewing in the lab.

edit- I know June Jones installs the run and shoot. I'm hoping we get his second-year results
Bearupnobly
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Totally get it! Parachute guy.

More of a realist. Leonardo da Vinci drew up plans and a model of a helicopter, but was never able to fly it despite trying numerous times. Whether or not Coach Rhule is building an airplane will only be finally decided when it flies or it crashes. He still has not shared any reasonable facsimile of a plan for an airplane not demonstrated even that he knows what his plan is. His lack of transparency plus inability to communicate even the outline of a plan is more suggestive of a wannabe. Coach Smart of UGA has a probable 11-1 team in his 2nd year, and after every game he said in the after game press conference that we did this well and will improve in these areas, specifically. Rhule, like Leonardo, may be able to draw the picture of an aircraft, but I wouldn't fly in it unless I was wearing a parachute.
YoakDaddy
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cowboycwr said:

Is that really the best picture of Rhule to use? He looks defeated and like he is lost.

Normal picture. He's looked lost most of the season.
Big_Pumpin
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I think I finally understand the issue. There is a contingent of fans who really think this coaching staff should have learnt up on CAB's system and just ran with it.

Rhule and his staff are literally rebuilding this entire thing. Whether you like it or not, that's what they are doing. From the ground up. They have a vision and are implementing the systems that are in line with that vision. I don't know if it's going to work. I'm rooting for them though.
BUbearinARK
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Bearupnobly said:

but I wouldn't fly in it unless I was wearing a parachute.
Mmm-hmmm
I’m an optimist!

And /S in case I missed it

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Mitch Henessey
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Too many excuses made in this article. The staff frankly wasn't good enough this season.

I was shocked that Taylor Young came back this season, as we talked to his family at the WVU game last year, and they said he was already gone. When he came back, I took that as a very good sign that we were getting a great coaching staff. To be honest, the staff didn't deserve Taylor Young this year.
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Mitch Henessey said:

Too many excuses made in this article. The staff frankly wasn't good enough this season.

I was shocked that Taylor Young came back this season, as we talked to his family at the WVU game last year, and they said he was already gone. When he came back, I took today as a very good sign that we were getting a great coaching staff. To be honest, the staff didn't deserve Taylor Young this year.
Would you please ask Taylor Young what he thinks about the staff and report back.
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Big_Pumpin said:

Mitch Henessey said:

Too many excuses made in this article. The staff frankly wasn't good enough this season.

I was shocked that Taylor Young came back this season, as we talked to his family at the WVU game last year, and they said he was already gone. When he came back, I took today as a very good sign that we were getting a great coaching staff. To be honest, the staff didn't deserve Taylor Young this year.
Would you please ask Taylor Young what he thinks about the staff and report back.
Exactly.
ImwithBU
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No one could have predicted that this staff would be this bad. Cam they turn it around yeah, but it's going to take some self reflecting and not blaming it on "young players that need to get bigger stronger faster" or whatever else excuse you want to make. The only good thing from all this losing is we are no longer a topic of the media. CMR may have sabotaged this year for all I know to take some pressure off. I know I know I'm a sound ridiculous. But this 1 win season has definitely set the bar low, and some of you are already giving this guy a pass. It's bowl or bust next season in my eyes, Rhule said we are a bowl team next year so we better be or it's time for him to kick rocks as we will be one of the more veteran teams next season
ColomboLQ
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I wouldn't exactly say we are heading into the off season with "momentum".
BFWorldwide
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(1) great coaches adapt schemes to players' talents not players' talents to scheme. Rhule & Co. spent this past year hammering with a screwdriver. Not surprisingly, it was a massive failure and people got hurt.

(2) refusing to accept reality and refusing to adapt is not the sign of quality leadership. Our OL could not move people. Rhule refused to accept that reality. When we faced short yardage situations, he called jumbo package sets every time. Those sets failed more often than not. Why? Because we were ill suited for 11 on 11 in tight space. Give Briles his due; when he faced similar situations early in his Baylor tenure he adapted using two key elements: spread and tempo. By spreading 4 wide, that allowed 7 on 7 in the box and gave the RB more space to make a play. That space combined with quick tempo often caught the D unready to stop the play. The % of success far exceeded the talent differential component. That is what good coaches do; they find ways to succeed even when they have less talent.

(3) praising Rhule for his "process" of using sports car talent as a dump truck is like praising someone for using a Van Gogh painting as a placemat. If he wants power football long term, fine. Make that change as the roster evolves [note: not agreeing that such choice is smart]. But sacrificing the success potential of this year's team to "expedite" that process is not only a questionable choice, it is arguably a violation of job duties and inarguably a violation of trust between the coaches and seniors on the roster.

(4) Bataan Death March Spring Camp, Bataan Death March Fall Camp, and Pre-Game Oklahoma Drill = Abject Stupidity with an already thin roster. Given the roster numbers, it was reasonably calculated to lead to increased injuries and did in fact do so. This issue more than any other calls into question Rhule's fitness as a leader. Knowingly placing players at substantially greater risk in inexcusable.

(5) No real leader regularly throws his reportees "under the bus" while refusing to accept personal responsibility. Count the number of times in press conferences that players were blamed for mistakes versus blame being assessed to coaches. For Rhule, the buck stops elsewhere.

Did the team improve? Yes. But consider where they started: blasted by a middle of the road FCS team. Hard not to improve when the team starts eight feet below the bottom of the barrel. [Yes, that was a grave image wafting].

Evidence of Blunders substantially outweighs evidence of coaching prowess.
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Rhule's best plan would be to resign, immediately, or at least by noon today.
I'm a Bearbacker
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BFWorldwide said:

(1) great coaches adapt schemes to players' talents not players' talents to scheme. Rhule & Co. spent this past year hammering with a screwdriver. Not surprisingly, it was a massive failure and people got hurt.

(2) refusing to accept reality and refusing to adapt is not the sign of quality leadership. Our OL could not move people. Rhule refused to accept that reality. When we faced short yardage situations, he called jumbo package sets every time. Those sets failed more often than not. Why? Because we were ill suited for 11 on 11 in tight space. Give Briles his due; when he faced similar situations early in his Baylor tenure he adapted using two key elements: spread and tempo. By spreading 4 wide, that allowed 7 on 7 in the box and gave the RB more space to make a play. That space combined with quick tempo often caught the D unready to stop the play. The % of success far exceeded the talent differential component. That is what good coaches do; they find ways to succeed even when they have less talent.

(3) praising Rhule for his "process" of using sports car talent as a dump truck is like praising someone for using a Van Gogh painting as a placemat. If he wants power football long term, fine. Make that change as the roster evolves [note: not agreeing that such choice is smart]. But sacrificing the success potential of this year's team to "expedite" that process is not only a questionable choice, it is arguably a violation of job duties and inarguably a violation of trust between the coaches and seniors on the roster.

(4) Bataan Death March Spring Camp, Bataan Death March Fall Camp, and Pre-Game Oklahoma Drill = Abject Stupidity with an already thin roster. Given the roster numbers, it was reasonably calculated to lead to increased injuries and did in fact do so. This issue more than any other calls into question Rhule's fitness as a leader. Knowingly placing players at substantially greater risk in inexcusable.

(5) No real leader regularly throws his reportees "under the bus" while refusing to accept personal responsibility. Count the number of times in press conferences that players were blamed for mistakes versus blame being assessed to coaches. For Rhule, the buck stops elsewhere.

Did the team improve? Yes. But consider where they started: blasted by a middle of the road FCS team. Hard not to improve when the team starts eight feet below the bottom of the barrel. [Yes, that was a grave image wafting].

Evidence of Blunders substantially outweighs evidence of coaching prowess.

Most astute analysis I have read so far.

How about emailing this post to coach MR.
YoakDaddy
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He wouldn't read it. Heck, CMR has stated on 2 different occasions that he's not assessing staff performance.
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YoakDaddy said:

He wouldn't read it. Heck, CMR has stated on 2 different occasions that he's not assessing staff performance.

Then he isn't a good leader. Heck, even I get assessed and evaluated every year as a pastor.
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BFWorldwide said:

(1) great coaches adapt schemes to players' talents not players' talents to scheme. Rhule & Co. spent this past year hammering with a screwdriver. Not surprisingly, it was a massive failure and people got hurt.

(2) refusing to accept reality and refusing to adapt is not the sign of quality leadership. Our OL could not move people. Rhule refused to accept that reality. When we faced short yardage situations, he called jumbo package sets every time. Those sets failed more often than not. Why? Because we were ill suited for 11 on 11 in tight space. Give Briles his due; when he faced similar situations early in his Baylor tenure he adapted using two key elements: spread and tempo. By spreading 4 wide, that allowed 7 on 7 in the box and gave the RB more space to make a play. That space combined with quick tempo often caught the D unready to stop the play. The % of success far exceeded the talent differential component. That is what good coaches do; they find ways to succeed even when they have less talent.

(3) praising Rhule for his "process" of using sports car talent as a dump truck is like praising someone for using a Van Gogh painting as a placemat. If he wants power football long term, fine. Make that change as the roster evolves [note: not agreeing that such choice is smart]. But sacrificing the success potential of this year's team to "expedite" that process is not only a questionable choice, it is arguably a violation of job duties and inarguably a violation of trust between the coaches and seniors on the roster.

(4) Bataan Death March Spring Camp, Bataan Death March Fall Camp, and Pre-Game Oklahoma Drill = Abject Stupidity with an already thin roster. Given the roster numbers, it was reasonably calculated to lead to increased injuries and did in fact do so. This issue more than any other calls into question Rhule's fitness as a leader. Knowingly placing players at substantially greater risk in inexcusable.

(5) No real leader regularly throws his reportees "under the bus" while refusing to accept personal responsibility. Count the number of times in press conferences that players were blamed for mistakes versus blame being assessed to coaches. For Rhule, the buck stops elsewhere.

Did the team improve? Yes. But consider where they started: blasted by a middle of the road FCS team. Hard not to improve when the team starts eight feet below the bottom of the barrel. [Yes, that was a grave image wafting].

Evidence of Blunders substantially outweighs evidence of coaching prowess.
You just haven't been looking at the game film closely enough.
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(1) great coaches adapt schemes to players' talents not players' talents to scheme. Rhule & Co. spent this past year hammering with a screwdriver. Not surprisingly, it was a massive failure and people got hurt.

Right, that's why Bama looks so different every year...Sure, they have a QB that can run now, but that's an added dimension to the scheme they already established. It's not like Bama started running an uptempo offense once they got a mobile QB.

(2) refusing to accept reality and refusing to adapt is not the sign of quality leadership. Our OL could not move people. Rhule refused to accept that reality. When we faced short yardage situations, he called jumbo package sets every time. Those sets failed more often than not. Why? Because we were ill suited for 11 on 11 in tight space. Give Briles his due; when he faced similar situations early in his Baylor tenure he adapted using two key elements: spread and tempo. By spreading 4 wide, that allowed 7 on 7 in the box and gave the RB more space to make a play. That space combined with quick tempo often caught the D unready to stop the play. The % of success far exceeded the talent differential component. That is what good coaches do; they find ways to succeed even when they have less talent.

11 on 11 or 7 on 7 doesn't matter if you have OL issues. Even Briles had a power rush scheme inside the redzone. Terrance Ganaway, Glasco Martin, and Devin Chafin were designated redzone backs who were recruited to fit the redzone offensive scheme, which sort of contradicts your first point.

(3) praising Rhule for his "process" of using sports car talent as a dump truck is like praising someone for using a Van Gogh painting as a placemat. If he wants power football long term, fine. Make that change as the roster evolves [note: not agreeing that such choice is smart]. But sacrificing the success potential of this year's team to "expedite" that process is not only a questionable choice, it is arguably a violation of job duties and inarguably a violation of trust between the coaches and seniors on the roster.

"Sports Car" talent is a little bit of a stretch, don't you think? It seems like you aren't accounting for all the players that left or got injured. I absolutely think the current roster has massive potential, but I think they need more development before they can be labeled anything. Also, I don't know what offense you were watching, but "dump truck" seems like a gross over exaggeration.

(4) Bataan Death March Spring Camp, Bataan Death March Fall Camp, and Pre-Game Oklahoma Drill = Abject Stupidity with an already thin roster. Given the roster numbers, it was reasonably calculated to lead to increased injuries and did in fact do so. This issue more than any other calls into question Rhule's fitness as a leader. Knowingly placing players at substantially greater risk in inexcusable.

So, what exactly did you expect now that you've acknowledged the roster limitations? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't most - if not all - of the injuries happen in-game?

(5) No real leader regularly throws his reportees "under the bus" while refusing to accept personal responsibility. Count the number of times in press conferences that players were blamed for mistakes versus blame being assessed to coaches. For Rhule, the buck stops elsewhere.

I'll be honest, I don't really know what your point is here.
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(1) great coaches adapt schemes to players' talents not players' talents to scheme. Rhule & Co. spent this past year hammering with a screwdriver. Not surprisingly, it was a massive failure and people got hurt.

Right, that's why Bama looks so different every year...Sure, they have a QB that can run now, but that's an added dimension to the scheme they already established. It's not like Bama started running an uptempo offense once they got a mobile QB.

(2) refusing to accept reality and refusing to adapt is not the sign of quality leadership. Our OL could not move people. Rhule refused to accept that reality. When we faced short yardage situations, he called jumbo package sets every time. Those sets failed more often than not. Why? Because we were ill suited for 11 on 11 in tight space. Give Briles his due; when he faced similar situations early in his Baylor tenure he adapted using two key elements: spread and tempo. By spreading 4 wide, that allowed 7 on 7 in the box and gave the RB more space to make a play. That space combined with quick tempo often caught the D unready to stop the play. The % of success far exceeded the talent differential component. That is what good coaches do; they find ways to succeed even when they have less talent.

11 on 11 or 7 on 7 doesn't matter if you have OL issues. Even Briles had a power rush scheme inside the redzone. Terrance Ganaway, Glasco Martin, and Devin Chafin were designated redzone backs who were recruited to fit the redzone offensive scheme, which sort of contradicts your first point.

(3) praising Rhule for his "process" of using sports car talent as a dump truck is like praising someone for using a Van Gogh painting as a placemat. If he wants power football long term, fine. Make that change as the roster evolves [note: not agreeing that such choice is smart]. But sacrificing the success potential of this year's team to "expedite" that process is not only a questionable choice, it is arguably a violation of job duties and inarguably a violation of trust between the coaches and seniors on the roster.

"Sports Car" talent is a little bit of a stretch, don't you think? It seems like you aren't accounting for all the players that left or got injured. I absolutely think the current roster has massive potential, but I think they need more development before they can be labeled anything. Also, I don't know what offense you were watching, but "dump truck" seems like a gross over exaggeration.

(4) Bataan Death March Spring Camp, Bataan Death March Fall Camp, and Pre-Game Oklahoma Drill = Abject Stupidity with an already thin roster. Given the roster numbers, it was reasonably calculated to lead to increased injuries and did in fact do so. This issue more than any other calls into question Rhule's fitness as a leader. Knowingly placing players at substantially greater risk in inexcusable.

So, what exactly did you expect now that you've acknowledged the roster limitations? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't most - if not all - of the injuries happen in-game?

(5) No real leader regularly throws his reportees "under the bus" while refusing to accept personal responsibility. Count the number of times in press conferences that players were blamed for mistakes versus blame being assessed to coaches. For Rhule, the buck stops elsewhere.

I'll be honest, I don't really know what your point is here.
Great first post! I just walked away from this rambling. Thanks for taking the points on.
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Yea it pissed me off because it seemed like they were more he'll bent on proving their system is good enuf to win in this league, than humbling themselves to what the league is and their players. Very stubborn and narcissistic imo
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la49king said:

I Yea it pissed me off because it seemed like they were more he'll bent on proving their system is good enuf to win in this league, than humbling themselves to what the league is and their players. Very stubborn and narcissistic
Great first post! Although I generally disagree with this opinion as short-sighted. Keep the opinions going!!
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I want to win just as much as anyone. However, there's still reason to be optimistic. If you're just looking at the record, Rhule's first season at Temple went pretty much the same way. On top of that, Rhule walked into a more difficult situation at Baylor. People in the forum need to stop being so quick to count out Rhule.
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Bear Apologist said:

I want to win just as much as anyone. However, there's still reason to be optimistic. If you're just looking at the record, Rhule's first season at Temple went pretty much the same way. On top of that, Rhule walked into a more difficult situation at Baylor. People in the forum need to stop being so quick to count out Rhule.
Word!
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The Astro's defied conventional wisdom, tanked a couple of seasons and look where they are now. Who knows if Rhule can have success at Baylor. I know he went thru a similar process at Temple, and Templed SUCKED for a long time prior to his arrival. (I know, I know... G5 vs P5). I'm willing to give Rhule the time needed to put his system and players in place. I'm willing to give this even when I think he could have and should have done better this year. I've sat thru some lean years where there was no improvement from one game to the next or one season to the next. I'll judge Rhule based on the product and production in 2019.

Finally. The BOR is horrible and needs to be completely replaced. ASAFP
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Thank you Hogan.
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