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MBB: Baylor (4-2) vs South Dakota (3-2) Preview & Game Thread

November 26, 2018
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Baylor (4-2) hosts South Dakota (3-2) at 7pm CST on November 27th at the Ferrell Center in Waco, TX.  The game is televised on Fox Sports Southwest.

KenPom Rankings

South Dakota:  154 overall; 212 offensive efficiency; 113 defensive efficiency

Baylor:  54 overall; 74 offensive efficiency; 57 defensive efficiency

Prediction:  Baylor 74 South Dakota 63


Coaches

South Dakota:  Todd Lee (54); 154-81 overall (3-2 at South Dakota)

Baylor:  Scott Drew (48); 322-207 overall (302-196 at Baylor); 7 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s

South Dakota Starters

PG:  Triston Simpson (JR) 6-2 190 lbs;16 ppg; 2 asst; 47% FG; 38% 3pt; 77% FT

SG:  Tyler Peterson (JR) 6-4 210 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 2 asst; 40% FG; 21% 3pt; 80% FT

SF:  Brandon Armstrong (JR); 6-5 220 lbs; 11 ppg; 3 reb; 49% FG; 48% 3pt; 100% FT

PF:  Trey Burch-Manning (SR); 6-6 215 lbs; 18 ppg; 2 asst; 61% FG; 72% 3pt; 58% FT

C:  Matt Johns (FR) 6-8 230 lbs; 2 ppg; 40% FG; 50% FT

South Dakota Bench

F:  Logan Power (SR); 6-6 230 lbs; 2 ppg; 2 reb; 33% FG; 33% 3pt; 50% FT

F:  Stanley Umude (SO) 6-6 210 lbs; 5 ppg; 4 reb; 44% FG; 46% FT


Baylor Starting Line-up

PG:  Makai Mason (SR) 6-1 180 lbs; 16 ppg; 3 asst; 43% FG; 29% 3pt; 100% FT

SG:  King McClure (SR) 6-3 215 lbs; 14 ppg; 6 reb; 4 asst; 50% FG; 42% 3pt; 75% FT

SF:  Devonte Bandoo (JR) 6-3 195 lbs; 11 ppg;  2 reb; 54% FG; 41% 3pt; 100% FT

PF:  Mark Vital (SO) 6-5 230 lbs; 5 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 29% FG; 38% 3pt; 46% FT

C:  Tristan Clark (SO) 6-9 250 lbs; 15 ppg; 5 reb; 3 blks; 80% FG; 100% 3pt; 70% FT

Baylor Bench

F:  Mario Kegler (SO) 6-7 230 lbs; 10 ppg; 6 reb; 42% FG; 35% 3pt; 66% FT*

G:  Jared Butler (FR) 6-3 185 lbs; 9 ppg; 3 reb; 2 asst; 33% FG; 21% 3pt; 88% FT

F:  Matthew Mayer (FR) 6-9 200 lbs; 8 ppg; 4 reb; 36% FG; 29% 3pt; 73% FT

G:  Darius Allen (JR) 6-4 205 lbs; 4 ppg; 2 reb; 1 asst; 31% FG; 13% 3pt; 33% FT

*stats freshman year at Mississippi State

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MBB: Baylor (4-2) vs South Dakota (3-2) Preview & Game Thread

21,604 Views | 113 Replies | Last: 5 yr ago by willyric
Ashley Hodge
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full squad finally. Kegler should make a huge difference.

Scott Drew going for #301 (wins at Baylor). Grabbed #300 vs George Mason. 302 on his watch but 2 of those are Tang's wins (2 game suspension for texting).

Big_Pumpin
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So is Drew wanting Mayer to grow up quickly? I noticed that he seems to have a longer leash for him when he makes mistakes than he does with other players.
Ashley Hodge
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Big_Pumpin said:

So is Drew wanting Mayer to grow up quickly? I noticed that he seems to have a longer leash for him when he makes mistakes than he does with other players.
his leash was pretty short Saturday. He tried to take it one on one 2 possessions in a row without running the offense and one of his teammates took issue with it saying "run the offense" in a little more emphatic way.

He didn't play the rest of the game. Friday against Ole Miss, Mayer played quite a bit and looked really good at times. He also had a lot of really bad possessions. But when King and Bandoo were scoreless and Vital and Clark were in foul trouble, Drew had to live with it that night.

A lot of that changes with Kegler coming back tomorrow. A lot more options.

Mayer has unreal potential. Just needs to harness his nervous energy. I see why Drew was so high on him. He is a year younger than the rest of his class.

I'm pretty excited about this freshman class. I think we got 3 really good ones- Butler, Thamba, Mayer.
setshot
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Good insights, Ashley....I agree with your take on Mayer.

I do not want to be taken literally here, but he reminds me of a very young edition of Rick Barry, one of the truly great offensive players I have ever seen. Barry was 6'8", very lithe and limber, and a superb shooter/scorer. He is the only player in history to lead the NCAA, the ABA, and the NBA in scoring. He would be among the top three passers from the forward position that I have ever seen, and though his unique-for-its-time underhanded free throw was derided by the following generation of players, he would be among the top free throw shooters of all time by any evaluation. He could rebound and when inclined to do so, he could defend.

Mayer's attitude, unfortunately, also reminds me of Barry, a man disliked by just about everyone who was associated with the game. Barry was one of the most intelligent players of his time, but was very sensitive to criticism, real or implied. His self confidence edged over into arrogance, and like so many players these days, he never acknowledged that he had fouled.

Mayer has his height, his body type, his self confidence, and at a young age, he has a little bit of his game. He does not play with the intelligence or discipline that Barry displayed, but I never saw Barry at the age of the current edition of Mayer. Will Mayer become a stronger, more mature player in the years ahead, as we envision him to be in the natural order of things, or will he be that idiosyncratic, highly individual player who somehow does not realize his full potential because he cannot accept the discipline that team play requires?
Only time and circumstance can reveal the answer to that, and since I do not know the young man, I am not at all sure of the outcome. What I do believe is that the potential is there for something special, and the very attitude that helps make him special, may be a hindrance in keeping him from it.
Johnny Bear
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With the way Vital has played (so far I see little if any improvement from last season), I'm a bit surprised Kegler isn't starting in his place since he's now finally available.
Ashley Hodge
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Johnny Bear said:

With the way Vital has played (so far I see little if any improvement from last season), I'm a bit surprised Kegler isn't starting in his place since he's now finally available.
just a guess on starting lineup
HoustonBear15
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Starting lineup will most likely be

Mason
McClure
Vital
Kegler
Clark
BaylorOkie
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I have to say I am expecting somewhat of a sloppy game tonight. Game 7 on the season and we finally have our full roster. And with so many new faces, I'm just hoping to get out of the non conference season reasonably well. Kegler will take a little bit to blend into the lineup.

This team will start to come together in January, IMO, and will have to earn its dance card in conference play. The big 12 is looking really strong this year so that's a tall order. But I still like this team's chances to go dancing.
HoustonBear15
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BaylorOkie said:

I have to say I am expecting somewhat of a sloppy game tonight. Game 7 on the season and we finally have our full roster. And with so many new faces, I'm just hoping to get out of the non conference season reasonably well. Kegler will take a little bit to blend into the lineup.

This team will start to come together in January, IMO, and will have to earn its dance card in conference play. The big 12 is looking really strong this year so that's a tall order. But I still like this team's chances to go dancing.
I've heard that the starting 5 actually operates better in practice with Kegler in the lineup. Offensive chemistry is better with him and things flow well.
willyric
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how illegal is it if someone was to live stream the game from their phone and play it on here>?

is that like a felony or can we make it happen?
haha.
RRTXBaylorFan
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Johnny Bear said:

With the way Vital has played (so far I see little if any improvement from last season), I'm a bit surprised Kegler isn't starting in his place since he's now finally available.
I am with you - I think Vital has a lot of heart and plays hard, but he hasn't shown me any reason
that he's a starter..........
RRTXBaylorFan
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What channel is the game on tonight ?
HoustonBear15
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DanaDane
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South Dakota has 3 dudes who are better pure shooters than anyone on our entire roster.
gobears20
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Not a good start at all by Baylor

Down 8-2 15:52
DanaDane
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Kegler update

1st shot blocked by shorter guy
2nd shot air ball from 3

Gonna have to get his rhythm since this is his first game.
gobears20
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Grande in Waco shows Tv

FSNSWTX5 134

Fox College Sports 228
DanaDane
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Kegler 3rd shot Missed from 3
gobears20
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Kegler started 31 games at Miss state
DanaDane
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South Dakota playing tight D. Very impressive so far.
DanaDane
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Kegler 4th shot - throws an off balance shot from 3 and misses
gobears20
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Wow we look bad right now lol
DanaDane
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Why is Vital shooting 3s? Another air ball.


12-5 SD
DanaDane
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I hope this is just initial rust because Kegler looks awful at both ends of the court and can barely make it up and down the court.
gobears20
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Timeout

14-7 Baylor down 10:35
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Bear8084
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Slow and sluggish start.
gobears20
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Yeah it has to be because he is really good but I wonder how in shape he is
DanaDane
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Butler is gonna make a lot of freshman mistakes this year but man does he have fast hands! He's gonna be great at steals before his career is over. Has some really good instincts too.
BaylorOkie
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Pretty out of sync trying to get Kegler worked in. About like I thought it would be.
DanaDane
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Mayer!!!!!!!
gobears20
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Hopefully that gets us going
He has a great shot
DanaDane
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Kegler 5th shot another air ball from 3.
But he gets a block at the other end!
HoustonBear15
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Butler
Bandoo
Mayer
Kegler
Thamba

3 freshmen, 1 sophomore and 1 junior to make up a lineup of five players new to Baylor this year. Crazy stuff.
DanaDane
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Kegler hits 1 of 2 FT's

He has a pretty FT release. Have a feeling he'll get it going in the 2nd half and put up double figures.
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