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MBB: Baylor (8-4) at TCU (11-1) Preview & Game Thread

January 3, 2019
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Baylor (8-4) opens up Big12 play at TCU (11-1) in Fort Worth, TX on Saturday January 5th at 3pm CST. The game will be televised on ESPNU.

KenPom Rankings

TCU:  25 overall; 32 offensive efficiency; 28 defensive efficiency

Baylor: 62 overall; 157 offensive efficiency; 21 defensive efficiency

Prediction:  TCU 71 Baylor 63

Coaches

TCU:  Jamie Dixon (53); 384-151 (56-28 at TCU) 12 NCAAs; 3 Sweet 16s; 1 Elite 8

Baylor:  Scott Drew (48); 326-209 overall (306-198 at Baylor); 7 NCAAs; 4 Sweet 16s; 2 Elite 8s

TCU Starters

PG:  Alex Robinson (SR) 6-1 180 lbs; 13 ppg; 9 asst; 50% FG; 42% 3pt; 65% FT

SG:  Jaylen Fisher (JR) 6-2 195 lbs; 12 ppg; 2 reb; 3 asst; 41% FG; 44% 3pt; 90% FT

SF:  Desmond Bane (JR); 6-5 215 lbs; 14 ppg; 6 reb; 3 asst; 53% FG; 34% 3pt; 88% FT

PF:  JD Miller (SR); 6-8 235 lbs; 11 ppg; 6 reb; 55% FG; 21% 3pt; 71% FT

C:  Kevin Samuel (SR) 6-11 250 lbs; 8 ppg; 7 reb; 2 blks; 76% FG; 50% FT

TCU Bench

F:  Kouat Noi (SO) 6-7 205 lbs; 14 ppg; 5 reb; 48% FG; 38% 3pt; 86% FT

G:  Kendric Davis (FR); 5-11 180 lbs; 6 ppg; 48% FG; 22% 3pt; 67% FT

G:  RJ Nembhard (FR) 6-4 195 lbs; 3 ppg; 3 reb; 33% FG; 27% 3pt; 46% FT

Baylor Starters

PG:  Makai Mason (SR) 6-1 180 lbs; 14 ppg; 3 reb; 3 asst; 43% FG; 32% 3pt; 82% FT

SG:  King McClure (SR) 6-3 215 lbs; 11 ppg; 5 reb; 3 asst; 2 st; 42% FG; 39% 3pt; 73% FT

SF:  Mario Kegler (SO) 6-7 230 lbs; 9 ppg; 6 reb; 1 blk; 36% FG; 10% 3pt; 63% FT

PF:  Mark Vital (SO) 6-5 230 lbs; 6 ppg; 8 reb; 2 asst; 43% FG; 25% 3pt; 39% FT

C:  Tristan Clark (SO) 6-9 250 lbs; 14 ppg; 7 reb; 3 blks; 78% FG; 33% 3pt; 67% FT

Baylor Bench

G:  Devonte Bandoo (JR) 6-3 195 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 reb; 43% FG; 31% 3pt; 93% FT

G:  Jared Butler (FR) 6-3 185 lbs; 7 ppg; 2 reb; 2 asst; 35% FG; 24% 3pt; 85% FT

F:  Matthew Mayer (FR) 6-9 200 lbs; 6 ppg; 3 reb; 32% FG; 35% 3pt; 68% FT

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MBB: Baylor (8-4) at TCU (11-1) Preview & Game Thread

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5:17p, 1/5/19
Good clawing back into the game. Team is growing, just need to have some shots start going our way...
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5:17p, 1/5/19
Proud of the second half comeback but there were so many little things that would've led to a win (the foul at the end of the first half, free throws, etc.). We can take them in Waco.
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5:19p, 1/5/19
Well that sucks. We had a nice run to cut a 19 point deficit to 1 at one point, but just couldn't overcome a horrid first half.
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5:20p, 1/5/19
Scored almost 60 in the second half to make it a game
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5:20p, 1/5/19
I never saw Bandoo in this game, no?
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5:21p, 1/5/19
The phantom foul at the half that never gets called sealed our fate
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In reply to JXL • 5:21p, 1/5/19
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Well that sucks. We had a nice run to cut a 19 point deficit to 1 at one point, but just couldn't overcome a horrid first half.
this has happened countless times in the Drew era. I can only think of two times completing the comeback, against Louisville and Dayton in Maui

Its become lame. I wish we could just lose big - L still counts the same and Drew doesn't get a free pass. He needs the seat a little warm IMO.
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5:29p, 1/5/19
Props to the Bears for keeping it interesting. Coulda shoulda won.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 5:50p, 1/5/19
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JXL said:
Well that sucks. We had a nice run to cut a 19 point deficit to 1 at one point, but just couldn't overcome a horrid first half.
this has happened countless times in the Drew era. I can only think of two times completing the comeback, against Louisville and Dayton in Maui

Its become lame. I wish we could just lose big - L still counts the same and Drew doesn't get a free pass. He needs the seat a little warm IMO.
Of course you do.

It might be best for you to take a little break from Baylor basketball for a while. If you're not happy with Sweet 16 and Elite Eight teams, you're definitely not going to be with a rebuilding team full of freshmen, sophomores and transfers.

For those that aren't always miserable, there will be things to enjoy about this team, particularly its effort and -- most games -- its defense. We're not particularly good right now, but like all Drew-led teams, we play really hard and fight to the end. I think we'll win more games than most think we will for that reason. It may not be enough for a postseason berth in this conference, but we'll be competitive, and our young guys (basically everyone but Mason and McClure) will gain valuable experience for the future.

Ultimately, we're going to need to find more skill on offense if we're going to get back to where we want to be. I think Mayer and Butler will help solve that problem at some point, and I'm hopeful that Teague will as well. But we're going to have to deal with some growing pains until then.
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In reply to DanaDane • 6:18p, 1/5/19
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I never saw Bandoo in this game, no?
Played only 4 mins; missed a 3 & fouled once.
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6:24p, 1/5/19
On a side note, this was the first time I had been in TCU's arena and I really just didn't like it. Felt like a large high school gymnasium.
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In reply to HoustonBear15 • 7:05p, 1/5/19
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On a side note, this was the first time I had been in TCU's arena and I really just didn't like it. Felt like a large high school gymnasium.


It is blindingly white. Eyes hurt after leaving
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In reply to HoustonBear15 • 7:16p, 1/5/19
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On a side note, this was the first time I had been in TCU's arena and I really just didn't like it. Felt like a large high school gymnasium.
Which is a big reason why we need to build our new arena with at least an 8K capacity.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 9:41p, 1/5/19
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JXL said:
Well that sucks. We had a nice run to cut a 19 point deficit to 1 at one point, but just couldn't overcome a horrid first half.
this has happened countless times in the Drew era. I can only think of two times completing the comeback, against Louisville and Dayton in Maui

Its become lame. I wish we could just lose big - L still counts the same and Drew doesn't get a free pass. He needs the seat a little warm IMO.
I think we had a big comeback victory against Michigan State a couple years ago with a #1 ranking that was soon to follow.
FKA tri it
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10:11p, 1/5/19
Any guess on how we fare against Kansas next weekend?
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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10:19p, 1/5/19
Seriously, OldBear?
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In reply to Timbear • 11:25p, 1/5/19
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Seriously, OldBear?
Kansas' last (and only) two road games have been losses to Arizona State (80-76) and Iowa State (77-60). I wouldn't pencil that one in as an "L" just yet.

In fact, folks should take a peek at the overall road records of everyone in this conference (8-13 composite) before writing off any home game. Winning true road games is tough in college basketball.
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11:46p, 1/5/19
Glad to see the team didn't give up and kept fighting til the end.
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1:57a, 1/6/19
A tale of two halves for the Baylor Bears on offense Saturday. 28 points in the 1st half. 53 points in the 2nd half. Great comeback effort to get within a basket of actually taking a lead with less than a minute to play. No moral victory in an 85-81 loss, but the Bears competed well until the final buzzer.
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In reply to rudylaw • 9:19a, 1/6/19
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The patented late comeback that always comes up short.
If our free throw shooting was only a little better we would have won.
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4:48p, 1/6/19
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
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In reply to Backporch • 4:58p, 1/6/19
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 8:45p, 1/6/19
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Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 8:49p, 1/6/19
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
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In reply to Bear8084 • 9:57a, 1/7/19
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:23a, 1/7/19
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.


I guess every Big 12 team not named Kansas in the must be mediocre too. The men's game is all about getting into the Tourney, and getting the highest seed possible and surviving and advancing. Conference titles in the men's game are fine and all, but mean squat when you get to the Big Dance. What I look at is what Baylor was before Drew, and then after and what he has done in the Tourney.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 10:23a, 1/7/19
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.


I guess every Big 12 team not named Kansas in the must be mediocre too. The men's game is all about getting into the Tourney, and getting the highest seed possible and surviving and advancing. Conference titles in the men's game are fine and all, but mean squat when you get to the Big Dance. What I look at is what Baylor was before Drew, and then after and what he has done in the Tourney.
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In reply to Bear8084 • 10:51a, 1/7/19
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.


I guess every Big 12 team not named Kansas in the must be mediocre too. The men's game is all about getting into the Tourney, and getting the highest seed possible and surviving and advancing. Conference titles in the men's game are fine and all, but mean squat when you get to the Big Dance. What I look at is what Baylor was before Drew, and then after and what he has done in the Tourney.
I don't disagree that on balance lousy to on balance mediocre (or slightly better at most) is progress, but it still puzzles me a bit that as long as that's where we are all is hunky dory and Drew's seat never even gets a bit warm as this isn't the case with just about all of the rest of our sports. And no, not every B12 team not named Kansas is mediocre.
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In reply to Johnny Bear • 3:11p, 1/7/19
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.


I guess every Big 12 team not named Kansas in the must be mediocre too. The men's game is all about getting into the Tourney, and getting the highest seed possible and surviving and advancing. Conference titles in the men's game are fine and all, but mean squat when you get to the Big Dance. What I look at is what Baylor was before Drew, and then after and what he has done in the Tourney.
I don't disagree that on balance lousy to on balance mediocre (or slightly better at most) is progress, but it still puzzles me a bit that as long as that's where we are all is hunky dory and Drew's seat never even gets a bit warm as this isn't the case with just about all of the rest of our sports. And no, not every B12 team not named Kansas is mediocre.
A "mediocre" coach doesn't take a moribund program off the biggest scandal in NCAA basketball history to two Elite Eights, two more Sweet 16s and almost twice as many NCAA tournament berths in a 10-year period as the program had in its 97-year history to that point.

The list of college basketball coaches who have accomplished more than Drew has at Baylor isn't a very long one, and any talk of running him off is beyond foolish.

We're in a rebuilding year for sure, but there's young talent on this roster that will develop and two talented guards who will help us tremendously sitting on the bench this season per transfer rules. Give it another year or two and you'll see us right back in the tournament and competing at a high level once there.
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In reply to bear2be2 • 4:34p, 1/7/19
bear2be2 said:
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
Bear8084 said:
Johnny Bear said:
EGOTbear said:
Backporch said:
So TCU is better than Baylor in all 3 major sports.

Dixon is recruiting out of this world...and our class?

Has Scott lost his drive? He's not getting it done. We held onto Smith for 5 years too long...
It's clear that Drew's recruiting drive has been low energy for some years now. Blame is being put on the Ferrell Center though. It really bothers me how bottom feeder TCU has surpassed us in a short period. Dixon is top tier.
Obviously TTech has blown by us as well. We used to annually own both of them not that long ago and now we're looking up at them. Keep in mind however that we're talking about men's bball - apparently the one BU sport where we're completely satisfied with mediocrity.


A few down seasons and all of a sudden the program is mediocre? What Scott Drew has done and continues to do is pretty awesome. What he has brought us is not mediocrity, that's what we were before he showed up and started getting us Tourney berths almost consistently once his program was fully implemented. He is the type that can have a down year or two and then bounce back either during the season (13-14) or the next season.
Overall B12 record in 15+ seasons = 115-140. If you dismiss his first 3 seasons because of the disaster he took over (and certainly did a great job of getting us out of) the record is 107-100. No conference championships (either season or tournament) and no final fours. Never finished higher than 3rd in the conference. I appreciate the two elite 8s, the two sweet 16s and the tallest midget competiton NIT championship, as well as the aforementioned great job of getting the program out of the gutter early on. He has undoubtedly been the best HC we've had since Bill Henderson (although that's a pretty low bar comparison), but still, overall looks little better than mediocre to me and even worse, the recent trend isn't headed north.


I guess every Big 12 team not named Kansas in the must be mediocre too. The men's game is all about getting into the Tourney, and getting the highest seed possible and surviving and advancing. Conference titles in the men's game are fine and all, but mean squat when you get to the Big Dance. What I look at is what Baylor was before Drew, and then after and what he has done in the Tourney.
I don't disagree that on balance lousy to on balance mediocre (or slightly better at most) is progress, but it still puzzles me a bit that as long as that's where we are all is hunky dory and Drew's seat never even gets a bit warm as this isn't the case with just about all of the rest of our sports. And no, not every B12 team not named Kansas is mediocre.
A "mediocre" coach doesn't take a moribund program off the biggest scandal in NCAA basketball history to two Elite Eights, two more Sweet 16s and almost twice as many NCAA tournament berths in a 10-year period as the program had in its 97-year history to that point.

The list of college basketball coaches who have accomplished more than Drew has at Baylor isn't a very long one, and any talk of running him off is beyond foolish.

We're in a rebuilding year for sure, but there's young talent on this roster that will develop and two talented guards who will help us tremendously sitting on the bench this season per transfer rules. Give it another year or two and you'll see us right back in the tournament and competing at a high level once there.


Exactly. It's like some on here ignore all those fancy infographics during games in which they compare Drew's resume to others, it's pretty impressive the company he keeps.
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In reply to EGOTbear • 8:30p, 2/2/19
EGOTbear said:
wgeralds said:
at the game. awful. first game i've seen in person this year - #10 doesn't seem to have the mental acumen to play offense or defense. not sure if he is some hyped prospect or something but really surprised he plays/starts/is on a scott drew team.

hopefully one of you tells me he's just having a bad day...

Mason has to be on of the most over-hyped newcomers for Baylor ever. He's no good. Same can be said about Kegler. A lot of pre season fluffing going on...
Prophetic.
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