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Game Day Thread: #7 Baylor (11-2) vs. #5 Georgia (11-2)

December 31, 2019
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The Baylor Bears (11-2) will face off with the Georgia Bulldogs (11-2) in the 2019 Allstate Sugar Bowl at the Superdome in New Orleans on Wednesday, Jan. 1 at 7:45 p.m. CT. 


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How Baylor can slow Georgia’s offense Sam Bradshaw
Sugar Bowl Game Video Preview Grayson Grundhoefer
Baylor’s job at keeping Matt Rhule in Waco Colt Barber
Dissecting Georgia’s defense Sam Bradshaw
Baylor wins if... JJ Joe
Georgia’s Advanced Analytics: Offense Colt Barber
Vegas line movement for Baylor vs. Georgia Colt Barber

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Matt Rhule Quote of the Week...

“I think when you start placing certain value on games than -- a lot of times that comes from us; it doesn't come from the kids. It comes from us as coaches. We were motivated to play against Stephen F. Austin. We were motivated in the last game of the year to play against Kansas. We were motivated in the Big 12 championship game. And at the end of the day, if our players aren't motivated to play in this game, what does it say about our program? What does it say about me? What does it say about them? We want to turn out tough, hard-working, competitive guys. And I'll say this about our players. If I went out there today and said, "Hey, we have to run ten wind sprints," there would be some grumbling. They're back there laughing at me again. But if I said I think, I think Kalon [Barnes] is faster than [Josh] Fleeks, our guys would line up and they would run against each other all day. We have competitive players. We're going to go out there and we're going right from here to practice. There's no going to the hotel. We're going right to practice. We're getting off the bus. We're putting full pads on and we're putting the ball down. We're saying one zone, one compete. That's just kind of who we are. We're a blue-collar, tough, competitive team. Our team will be beyond motivated. And we have to be because this is such a great team we're facing. I'm motivated. I have never really met Coach [Kirby] Smart, but I certainly respect him. So a chance to go against him as a head coach, I have to be at my best. And so I think our guys are highly, highly motivated.”


Baylor Key Players

Quarterback #12 Charlie Brewer – Brewer is cleared, the answer everyone was looking for after the Big 12 Championship Game. The Bears signal caller went through concussion protocol and was able to pass a week ago. The rest has been great for Brewer and he is the healthiest he could possibly be at this point in the season. On the season he is completing 65% of his passes for 2,950 yards and 20 touchdowns to go along with 337 yards and 10 touchdowns on the ground. He comes into this Sugar Bowl matchup ready to face the best defense this team has seen over the course of the season. A win in this game would probably be a top five win in Baylor football history and his legacy would gain even more ground on the top quarterbacks in school history.

Wide receiver #5 Denzel Mims – The senior wide receiver still has a bad taste in his mouth after the Big 12 Championship game in which he had zero catches. There is no way that he will want to go out with two straight poor performances so there will most likely be a steady amount of targets going his way. The more the season has progressed the more it has been apparent that Mims is really a major part if not the most important part of the engine that moves the offense. This is a big game for him as he matches up against two NFL level type cornerbacks so there is a chance to improve his draft stock. On the year he has 61 receptions for 945 yards and 11 touchdowns.

Defensive end #93 James Lynch – NFL draft questions abound for Coach Rhule but also for the best player on this football team which is James Lynch. The unanimous All American has been a steady force on this defense for the past three seasons but this year  he has become even more impactful. As the leader in sacks in the Big 12 he will have to play a major role in this football game since Georgia has only given up 12 sacks this season. But with three starters on the offensive line out for Georgia including a top 5 pick, there will be plenty of opportunities for Lynch to be a major problem for the Bulldogs. There is a major opportunity for Lynch to raise his draft stock even more before making his decision.

Defensive tackle #99 Bravvion Roy – Another star defensive lineman who has taken his game to another level this season. Roy has been a staple along the defensive front this season as he had completely plugged up running lanes while also getting after the quarterback in the new three-man front. Roy should be dominate against a banged up Georgia front and he can prove to NFL scouts what he could do at the next level. I have not seen a player take a bigger jump in a single season than Roy has this year, it has been remarkable.

Safety #3 Chris Miller – One of the stud safeties for the Bears defense will play a big role in his last game as a Baylor player. This Georgia team is going to try to run the ball downhill at Baylor all night well Miller can play a big role in putting a stop to that. Miller is ferocious tackler but outside of the targeting penalties he has played much more consistently under control. Look for him to rack up double digit tackles in his last games of his Baylor career.


Georgia Key Players

Quarterback #11 Jake Fromm – The Bulldogs quarterback has had a mediocre season compared to the expectations. Largely because the receivers have been mediocre but he also has not been sharp at times. On the year he has completed 60% of his passes for 2,610 yards and 22 touchdowns with only five interceptions. He has only been sacked 12 times so time has not been an issue for him but if Baylor can get after him they could make his efficient drop even more this would require stopping the run and forcing Fromm into obvious passing situations. If he plays well Baylor will be in some trouble.

Wide receiver #1 George Pickens – The true freshman has become the lead receiver for this Georgia team ever since Lawrence Cager went down due to injury. Cager is the star of this receiving core but has not been healthy so Pickens is the guy. He is a big body who can flat out run and jump so in the red zone he is a nightmare.

Running back #7 D’Andre Swift – Will he play or not? the star running back will be a hot name on NFL draft boards and has carried this offense at times. On the year he has 195 carries for 1,216 yards and seven touchdowns. He is the difference maker for the offense and an elite every down running back who can wear down a defense or run away from it. Baylor will need to do a better job this year than they did on Vanderbilt’s Keshawn Vaughn in the Texas Bowl.

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Game Day Thread: #7 Baylor (11-2) vs. #5 Georgia (11-2)

141,043 Views | 910 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by CHP Bear
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boognish_bear said:

The way we lost the Cotton Bowl suuuuuuucked....but at least we were in that game all the way to the end.

There hasn't been a fun moment in this game.


Ball dead at the 3. Our first half highlite.
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GruntTuff said:

... If you're wondering why we are 10th of 10 recruiting in tbe Big 12, it's simple. Other schools tell recruits you WiLL NOT play for Matt Rhule. He will be an NFL coach. Come here and play for ME. I will be here.

Tell me how I am wrong.

And it doesn't matter whether the smoke comes from a fire or from a competitor.
Doc Holliday
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Whatever team is playing tonight, they're undisciplined and they don't seem to care at all.

They will lose and they should feel bad about it.
DanaDane
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Not trying to create a Briles thread here, but the one thing the Briles offense did was to create space so that even marginal receivers who couldn't normally break coverage would be able to use space to their favor. It also created visual spacing for our QB. Charlie is tentative right now because he hasn't seen as tight of coverage before and he's fearful of throwing a pick. You can't play afraid as a QB.
Jack Bauer
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Virginia was 15 point underdogs to Florida and made it a game to the end

Thats really all I wanted at the very minimum.
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GABear78 said:

I made no explanation as to why we are sucking. We are sucking!! We are not ready for this level of football. Big 12 hasn't won a bowl game. We are good in a weak conference. Why do you expect us to play as if we are something more. Be realistic


Back at about the mid point of the season there was an article that asked if Minnesota and us were "for real" or beneficiaries of scheduling. A ton of people on this site were all offended the writer could even ask that question. Seems to me after the two OU games and this first half that question is still valid. As in "is Baylor for real and ready to play the top teams in the country?"
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Truthfully, I didn't expect to win (yeah, I'm normally pessimistic). But I would like it to be respectable.

What's most disappointing is watching an offense like Minnesota take apart Auburn. Lots of misdirection, short passes, running right at Auburn's supposedly dominant D line. Our offense just looks so easy to defend, starting with the playcalling
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DanaDane said:

Not trying to create a Briles thread here, but the one thing the Briles offense did was to create space so that even marginal receivers who couldn't normally break coverage would be able to use space to their favor. It also created visual spacing for our QB. Charlie is tentative right now because he hasn't seen as tight of coverage before and he's fearful of throwing a pick. You can't play afraid as a QB.
Briles also didn't need his daddy to keep his tempers in check
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robinsonbear said:

GABear78 said:

I made no explanation as to why we are sucking. We are sucking!! We are not ready for this level of football. Big 12 hasn't won a bowl game. We are good in a weak conference. Why do you expect us to play as if we are something more. Be realistic


Back at about the mid point of the season there was an article that asked if Minnesota and us were "for real" or beneficiaries of scheduling. A ton of people on this site were all offended the writer could even ask that question. Seems to me after the two OU games and this first half that question is still valid. As in "is Baylor for real and ready to play the top teams in the country?"


what's scary is that Georgia would beat the bricks off Oklahoma
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rudylaw said:

UGA did something crazy and revolutionary... They didn't wait until halftime to adjust. Insane I know.
We don't wait until halftime to make adjustments....because we don't ever make them.
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If Charlie plays we have NO shot. Put in Zeno. Rhule's O is Pitiful. I told you guys. Rhule will not beat top teams.
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Doc Holliday said:

Whatever team is playing tonight, they're undisciplined and they don't seem to care at all.

They will lose and they should feel bad about it.
I'm not seeing lack of caring. I'm seeing overmatched personnel, and little being done to alter the scheme
PartyBear
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Rhule says he doesn't fire assistants but some leave after they have a disagreement. Rhule speak for firing. Well if he is staying he needs to have one of these disagreements with Nixon or whoever calls the plays.
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Beating beat is one thing. Looking like we have no business being here is another.
Branch155
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PartyBear said:

Rhule says he doesn't fire assistants but some leave after they have a disagreement. Rhule speak for firing. Well if he is staying he needs to have one of these disagreements with Nixon or whoever calls the plays.
Completely agree. Our defense is top 10. Our offense is bottom half, at best
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Has Charlie regressed in your opinions because he really looks inept. No slants, no creative play calling. It just looks like the same plays over and over and over again. Every team has a weakness and we can't find it. Our weakness they have found which is run the ball to the edges where we cannot tackle them head on. Then, when you get the matchup you want take it. Secondary still the weak link with this bunch on the pass. They can play the run all day but can't cover at the point of contact.

Beautiful pass to George Pickens but that is our fault for putting Houston on an island and then they are running great routes. We have zero pass rush so you would think we would blitz sometime but sadly we do not mix it up with different looks. UGA can play smashmouth or air it out. I'm not sure what we are even trying to do. NOTHING IS WORKING.
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Branch155 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Announcers spending 95% of coverage praising UGA because not much positive to say about Baylor.
They look bored with the game. As am I


Yep....been so looking forward to the Sugar Bowl....and to not even have a moment to cheer the whole damn half...sucks
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wuzzybear said:

rudylaw said:

UGA did something crazy and revolutionary... They didn't wait until halftime to adjust. Insane I know.
This. Plus, Brewer cannot even throw on target when he DOES have time. This is pretty pathetic and not what I expected at all. No answer for Pickens and Fromm is on target. His passes are crisp, sharp and on the money,. I am relatively shocked at how well they have run the ball. And, we really look lackluster and unfocused. They would never admit it, but UGA looks like the more aggressive team...sad to say!



Throw rocks at Brewer if you want, but no receivers are open.
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Some of our issues are that Georgia has better players at most positions than us. This game was decided in recruiting.
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jdrs said:

Beating beat is one thing. Looking like we have no business being here is another.
It would help a bit, if the officials called Georgia when they foul. Little things like DPI, OPI, holding, and so on which have been happening a lot in this game.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
Pecos 45
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Right now we don't have anything to build on.
Getting beat on both sides of the ball, and looking pretty bad.
“If you have a job without aggravations, you don’t have a job.”
Malcolm Forbes
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OsoVerde said:

Some of our issues are that Georgia has better players at most positions than us. This game was decided in recruiting.
It's so simple yet goes over the head of a ton of our fan base. And others in the Big 12 too.
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I was afraid of this type of game. Totally uninspired. Charlie is afraid to run. Might as well give Bohanon or Zeno a shot.
Jack Bauer
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boognish_bear said:

Branch155 said:

Jack Bauer said:

Announcers spending 95% of coverage praising UGA because not much positive to say about Baylor.
They look bored with the game. As am I


Yep....been so looking forward to the Sugar Bowl....and to not even have a moment to cheer the whole damn half...sucks


Boring is the perfect word for this.
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BareBear said:

PartyBear said:

GruntTuff said:

Time for Rhule to put up or shut up. If he wants to recruit 4 and 5 star players to Baylor, those guys need to know they will play for him, or they will play for a historically powerful team. Baylor is NOT that.

He needs to say, NO, I am going to be your coach as long as you are here. Not, "this going to happen every year". In essence, you have no idea who your coach will be.

He's a wonderful coach. If he wants to coach in the NFL, good for him. Go for it, dog.

I will pat him on the back, and say thanks.

All you young Baylor fans, get over it. We are not a
historically great program.

If you're wondering why we are 10th of 10 recruiting in tbe Big 12, it's simple. Other schools tell recruits you WiLL NOT play for Matt Rhule. He will be an NFL coach. Come here and play for ME. I will be here.

Tell me how I am wrong.



Agree he either needs to commit to Baylor or take whatever offer he can get in the next week.
What makes me mad is that Baylor shows him commitment with a new contract when they didn't even have to, but he can't show commitment to Baylor to stay more than a year to year basis.


Yup. This flirting with NFL teams after every year doesn't show much commitment to me.

And it irritates me how so many on this site get mad when someone points out how he has done this, says they don't expect him here in X years, or points out how an NFL team won't care how big his buyout is. Or how they try to blame that honesty on hurting the team, recruiting, etc and the mods go around locking threads and banning users who point it out.
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And Coach Rhule this is why you don't start thumping your own chest after one good season...
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OsoVerde said:

Some of our issues are that Georgia has better players at most positions than us. This game was decided in recruiting.


Sorry you are completely wrong because posters on here say that recruiting rankings dont matter ..our 30+ recruiting ranking is equally on par with top 3 classes.
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Doc Holliday said:

Whatever team is playing tonight, they're undisciplined and they don't seem to care at all.

They will lose and they should feel bad about it.


This has been disappointing....but I wouldn't say our players don't care. That's just not true.
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If there are any adjustments to be made at halftime, I hope they are taking place as I type this.
“If you have a job without aggravations, you don’t have a job.”
Malcolm Forbes
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CTbruin said:

wuzzybear said:

rudylaw said:

UGA did something crazy and revolutionary... They didn't wait until halftime to adjust. Insane I know.
This. Plus, Brewer cannot even throw on target when he DOES have time. This is pretty pathetic and not what I expected at all. No answer for Pickens and Fromm is on target. His passes are crisp, sharp and on the money,. I am relatively shocked at how well they have run the ball. And, we really look lackluster and unfocused. They would never admit it, but UGA looks like the more aggressive team...sad to say!



Throw rocks at Brewer if you want, but no receivers are open.
That's because the routes chosen are all short of the LTG and therefore allow almost every defender a way to cover.

We have to attack deep a lot more often to force GA to spread out more. Right now they effectively double cover everyone because we play more conservative than a freaking wing formation.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
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Timbear said:

If Charlie plays we have NO shot. Put in Zeno. Rhule's O is Pitiful. I told you guys. Rhule will not beat top teams.


Careful....
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CTbruin said:

wuzzybear said:

rudylaw said:

UGA did something crazy and revolutionary... They didn't wait until halftime to adjust. Insane I know.
This. Plus, Brewer cannot even throw on target when he DOES have time. This is pretty pathetic and not what I expected at all. No answer for Pickens and Fromm is on target. His passes are crisp, sharp and on the money,. I am relatively shocked at how well they have run the ball. And, we really look lackluster and unfocused. They would never admit it, but UGA looks like the more aggressive team...sad to say!



Throw rocks at Brewer if you want, but no receivers are open.
How do you know that? Are you at the game? The camera never pans down field so it is hard to tell. 2 passes to Thornton were there but not the ball. If our WR's cannot make plays we have no chance.
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I hope Coach puts down the phone from NFL owners and tries something new
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wuzzybear said:

Has Charlie regressed in your opinions because he really looks inept. No slants, no creative play calling. It just looks like the same plays over and over and over again. Every team has a weakness and we can't find it. Our weakness they have found which is run the ball to the edges where we cannot tackle them head on. Then, when you get the matchup you want take it. Secondary still the weak link with this bunch on the pass. They can play the run all day but can't cover at the point of contact.

Beautiful pass to George Pickens but that is our fault for putting Houston on an island and then they are running great routes. We have zero pass rush so you would think we would blitz sometime but sadly we do not mix it up with different looks. UGA can play smashmouth or air it out. I'm not sure what we are even trying to do. NOTHING IS WORKING.


I don't think he's regressed, but I do think he hit his ceiling towards the end of last season
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I'm afraid the whole problem is that Georgia is just a better team.
“If you have a job without aggravations, you don’t have a job.”
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