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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

September 19, 2020
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Updated Saturday, Sept. 19, 2020 at 2:41 p.m. CT.

Less than 24 hours ahead of a football contest between Baylor University and the University of Houston scheduled for Saturday inside McLane Stadium, the game was postponed because of COVID-19 concerns, sources tell SicEm365.

According to a source close to the Baylor program, the Bears would have been without a significant portion of a single position group making it unsafe to play. That information was the driving factor behind the cancellation which correlates with the Big 12 protocols that have several specific personnel thresholds a team must meet for certain position groups as well as the entire roster. 

Big 12 teams must have at least 53 players available to play, a minimum of seven offensive linemen and four interior defensive linemen, and at least a single quarterback. Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Friday afternoon that Baylor did not meet the threshold for one of the specific positions, but did not confirm which position.  

Following the original report on Friday afternoon, SicEm365 spoke with an official from the City of Waco who confirmed it was not a local government decision that postponed the game, citing that because Baylor University is as a private institution, they do not have jurisdiction over the Big 12 program.

The official also clarified that Waco had merely adopted CDC and state protocols and not implemented their own, meaning any protocols that Baylor might be following were not from the local level. Baylor was and continues to be responsible for conducting their own contact tracing, according to the official, not the city.

According to the CDC website, “state and local public health officials will decide how to implement” guidelines put forth by the CDC and are also responsible for advising “specific people, or groups of people, to be tested.” 

Even with all of the guidelines put in place in weeks and month prior, the decision to postpone the game came with extreme frustration.

Specifically, the ultimate factor behind the postponement of the game was a result of contact tracing, not positive results of conducted COVID-19 tests on football players and staff members. Because of the guidelines followed, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game as a direct result of contact tracing and not due to positive COVID-19 tests, the source said.

Several Baylor players that were set to miss the game did not receive a single positive test, and despite also receiving multiple negative tests in the same time frame, were not allowed to return to team activities because of regulations in place for contact tracing.

Big 12 programs are required to test athletes three times during game weeks to best monitor developing cases. Because of the league guideline in place, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game against Houston despite the potential of having up to six negative COVID-19 tests over the last two weeks.

On Saturday, following the original release of the report, a source close to Baylor Athletics confirmed to SicEm365 that there were instances of players in contact tracing protocols who tested negative multiple times after coming in contact with an individual who had previously tested positive. Those players were not knowingly exposed to any positive testing persons again. 

An additional frustration, according to a source close to Baylor Athletics, comes from the inability to retest athletes who test positive for COVID-19. The inability to retest prevents checking for false-positive results which have been a regular occurrence when testing for the virus.

Per a release on Sept. 14, Baylor’s athletic department has had 88 positive tests across multiple sports since the beginning of June. Of those, six were currently active including two asymptomatic cases and four symptomatic. According to the release, a total of 23 athletes and staff members across all sports were being monitored for potential cases. 

The news comes less than seven days after Big 12 program and the American Athletic Conference program agreed to play in Waco on Saturday. The programs lost games against Louisiana Tech and Memphis over COVID-19 concerns and the mutual open date was utilized to schedule to game. 

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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

71,159 Views | 151 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by RightRevBear
Shakesbear
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My golf game better get way better with all the open weekends or I'm really gonna be pissed
Retreat Hell! We just got here! The 2/5
MrGolfguy
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What a massive kick in the nuts
ImABearToo
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Current Leadership? Where do you see leadership now?Obvious it doesn't exist. Another poorly handled situation courtesy of Baylor's "administration!"
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
RD2WINAGNBEAR86
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LOL! Deadly Covid strikes again!
"Never underestimate Joe's ability to **** things up!"

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BU-ME-08 said:

Ok, how is it most of the other Big12 schools are finding a way to make it work! Figure it out

Amazing how every other Big 12 will have played a game by weeks end... except us. Players are just as much to blame. Gotta want to play and be smart especially with these idiotic regulations to play
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ImABearToo said:

Current Leadership? Where do you see leadership now?Obvious it doesn't exist. Another poorly handled situation courtesy of Baylor's "administration!"


I thought that is what I said
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HuttoBear said:

jdkingbear said:

Leftist my ass! Covid has no political affiliation. Go vote for Fat Boy Chump if you wish but don't shovel your BS here.


Fatboy has my vote!


Mine two. In fact I am going to vote early and often. Give the Libs a taste of their own tactics
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"kEeP yEr PoLiTiCs oWwTa mAh sPoRtS!!!!"

Proceeds to blame Baylor's inability to stay healthy enough to play this weekend on politicians...
Michibear
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When will I learn . . .

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CTbruin said:

Stranger said:

City of Waco leftist politicians and Baylor leftist administration strike again!


It time (past time) for a change in leadership. We are already losing some heavy donors due to current "leadership ".
Who have we lost other than those who were upset Briles left? Who are the current heavys?
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Someone needs to be held accountable for this debacle. Mack Rhoades? Aranda? Dave Snyder?
This is unacceptable.
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Mitch Henessey said:

"kEeP yEr PoLiTiCs oWwTa mAh sPoRtS!!!!"

Proceeds to blame Baylor's inability to stay healthy enough to play this weekend on politicians...

You seem very confused.

You just said a team with zero positive tests this week is not healthy enough to play.

I bet you really love bureaucrats.
Shakesbear
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I guess the next question is "will our "contact traced" players have enough time to clear protocols so they can play in next weeks BIG XII opener against Kansas?????????????????
Retreat Hell! We just got here! The 2/5
RightRevBear
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People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
Mike E
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Ahhh stop playing with my heart =(((
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RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
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This still upsets me far less than when we lost to Mi. St in the cotton bowl.

Although i bet my cougar boss is relieved.

Made an internal decision earlier this summer to most likely write of this entire season. Was probably a good thing so as to not get so worked up. Everything is fubar in 2020. Suck for everyone involved including the supporting businesses and staff.

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BellCountyBear said:

The Left ruins everything.
Thats just a stupid idea
Waco1947 ,la
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RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
Truth^^^^^
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The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
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RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


Sorry to hear about this. So she's 24 and didn't have any underlying health issues? That's definitely far from the norm.

We had a bout pass through our house and the only symptom was loss of taste or smell. And me and my wife are no spring chickens.

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Mothra said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


Sorry to hear about this. So she's 24 and didn't have any underlying health issues? That's definitely far from the norm.

We had a bout pass through our house and the only symptom was loss of taste or smell. And me and my wife are no spring chickens.

Glad that you and your bride are feeling better and recovered. This thing is no joke.
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San Diego Bear said:

The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
Enthusiasm for Trump is baffling? Enthusiasm for anyone on the Democratic ticket is what is baffling.

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F@ck China!
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Mitch Henessey said:

Mothra said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


Sorry to hear about this. So she's 24 and didn't have any underlying health issues? That's definitely far from the norm.

We had a bout pass through our house and the only symptom was loss of taste or smell. And me and my wife are no spring chickens.

Glad that you and your bride are feeling better and recovered. This thing is no joke.

She's definitely the norm. I had it and had it not been for testing would have had zero idea I had it and I'm 27.
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San Diego Bear said:

The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
Trump Derangement Syndrome, California style.
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San Diego Bear said:

The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
*** does Andrew Johnson have to do with any of this?

Also, it's hilarious that a CoronaBro would complain about others using scare tactics. Even for a Karen such as yourself, that's something.
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Impeachment hoax....China virus....peaceful riots....murder hornets....back to riots....now China virus....ok now fires....back to China virus.
That my friends is a game plan with a variety of options!
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F@ck China! F@ck China
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RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
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RightRevBear
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CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.




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Tennessee kicks off the 5th week of HS football tonight. I thought if we got past week 3 of HS football the Big 12 would be in the clear. Guess not.

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jdkingbear said:

Leftist my ass! Covid has no political affiliation. Go vote for Fat Boy Chump if you wish but don't shovel your BS here.
Duh! Of course a virus is apolitical. But almost everyone who reacts to the virus and its results is political: elected officials, bureaucrats, college administrators, etc. Everyone who makes these kinds of decisions is.

Sorry but that is a totally ludicrous statement.
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The virus is real. My Mom was tested last week because she was in the hospital for something unrelated. Turns out she had had COVID before. Back in February she was very sick for several weeks. We thought it a bad case of bronchitis but realized later that it probably was COVID. Now we have confirmation. Thank God, she is fine now.

A colleague at work & his wife had it over the summer. He was miserable for awhile but thank God they both recovered.

Another colleague lost an in-law to COVID.

Just because you don't have it or know anyone directly who has does not mean it's a hoax. I understand the desire to believe such nonsense in the social/political climate that is 2020 and how this pandemic has been politicized so much. And it's often difficult to know what to believe since the media lies about so much. But the disease is real.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
 
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