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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

September 19, 2020
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Updated Saturday, Sept. 19, 2020 at 2:41 p.m. CT.

Less than 24 hours ahead of a football contest between Baylor University and the University of Houston scheduled for Saturday inside McLane Stadium, the game was postponed because of COVID-19 concerns, sources tell SicEm365.

According to a source close to the Baylor program, the Bears would have been without a significant portion of a single position group making it unsafe to play. That information was the driving factor behind the cancellation which correlates with the Big 12 protocols that have several specific personnel thresholds a team must meet for certain position groups as well as the entire roster. 

Big 12 teams must have at least 53 players available to play, a minimum of seven offensive linemen and four interior defensive linemen, and at least a single quarterback. Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Friday afternoon that Baylor did not meet the threshold for one of the specific positions, but did not confirm which position.  

Following the original report on Friday afternoon, SicEm365 spoke with an official from the City of Waco who confirmed it was not a local government decision that postponed the game, citing that because Baylor University is as a private institution, they do not have jurisdiction over the Big 12 program.

The official also clarified that Waco had merely adopted CDC and state protocols and not implemented their own, meaning any protocols that Baylor might be following were not from the local level. Baylor was and continues to be responsible for conducting their own contact tracing, according to the official, not the city.

According to the CDC website, “state and local public health officials will decide how to implement” guidelines put forth by the CDC and are also responsible for advising “specific people, or groups of people, to be tested.” 

Even with all of the guidelines put in place in weeks and month prior, the decision to postpone the game came with extreme frustration.

Specifically, the ultimate factor behind the postponement of the game was a result of contact tracing, not positive results of conducted COVID-19 tests on football players and staff members. Because of the guidelines followed, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game as a direct result of contact tracing and not due to positive COVID-19 tests, the source said.

Several Baylor players that were set to miss the game did not receive a single positive test, and despite also receiving multiple negative tests in the same time frame, were not allowed to return to team activities because of regulations in place for contact tracing.

Big 12 programs are required to test athletes three times during game weeks to best monitor developing cases. Because of the league guideline in place, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game against Houston despite the potential of having up to six negative COVID-19 tests over the last two weeks.

On Saturday, following the original release of the report, a source close to Baylor Athletics confirmed to SicEm365 that there were instances of players in contact tracing protocols who tested negative multiple times after coming in contact with an individual who had previously tested positive. Those players were not knowingly exposed to any positive testing persons again. 

An additional frustration, according to a source close to Baylor Athletics, comes from the inability to retest athletes who test positive for COVID-19. The inability to retest prevents checking for false-positive results which have been a regular occurrence when testing for the virus.

Per a release on Sept. 14, Baylor’s athletic department has had 88 positive tests across multiple sports since the beginning of June. Of those, six were currently active including two asymptomatic cases and four symptomatic. According to the release, a total of 23 athletes and staff members across all sports were being monitored for potential cases. 

The news comes less than seven days after Big 12 program and the American Athletic Conference program agreed to play in Waco on Saturday. The programs lost games against Louisiana Tech and Memphis over COVID-19 concerns and the mutual open date was utilized to schedule to game. 

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Ware your mask and shut up
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In reply to BluesBear • 9:41p, 9/18/20
Your Covid claims are bogus. And we would NOT be here bemoaning another game cancelled IF Chump had acted much earlier, which he knew it was dangerous and going the wrong way. That is a fact that is NOT disputable.
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In reply to SIC EM 94 • 9:44p, 9/18/20
Chump did not create Covid, but he sure as hell dropped the ball on it. Thousands have died because of him. Not believing that does not make it untrue.
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Chump did not create Covid, but he sure as hell dropped the ball on it. Thousands have died because of him. Not believing that does not make it untrue.


If you say so princess...rage on.
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Chump did not create Covid, but he sure as hell dropped the ball on it. Thousands have died because of him. Not believing that does not make it untrue.

If you believe that, I feel really bad for you.
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Trump2020 in a landslide. SCOTUS in Patriots control now. Have a good day!
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In reply to ImABearToo • 10:35p, 9/18/20
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Trump2020 in a landslide. SCOTUS in Patriots control now. Have a good day!


How can anyone vote for Trump after he cancelled the Baylor/Houston game?!?!
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In reply to ImwithBU • 10:38p, 9/18/20
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BearTruth13 said:
RightRevBear said:
BearTruth13 said:
RightRevBear said:
People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
A few of things. First, I am glad your grandmother survived. I really mean it, and I am not saying this in a rude or disrespectful way.


With that said I could care less about the death rate below 49, because I care about people that are younger than 49, who are currently 49, and who are older than 49. Our current count is 198,000 deaths. In 2018, we had 67,367 drug overdose deaths. The American Lung Association estimated that 154,050 died of lung cancer in 2018. In 2018, 15,820 HIV+ people died from all causes. Doing a little math this means that 19769.75 people died from drug overdoses, lung cancer, and Aids per month in 2018. Our first Covid death was in late February, so in the eight months we have had 24,750 people die from Covid.

Let's apply your logic about Covid to these three issues.We should tell our kids drugs aren't that dangerous, so go ahead and use all you want. Not that many people die from lung cancer, so I'll buy you a pack a day. AIDS doesn't kill that many people, so I want you to have all the unprotected sex you can get. Make sure the girl is on the pill though, because we wouldn't want a pregnancy.


We can argue over the accuracy of these numbers, about comorbidities, etc. Some groups say it is over counting and others are saying it under counts, and both sides have valid points. If you die in a car wreck while Covid+, you should not count as a Covid death. Also, may of our states weren't prepared to track these numbers, and this lead to under counting.











Of that 198,000, 121 are age 21 and under. 121! Per the CDC.


Dude your yelling at the clouds. Everyone knows young people are not dying in droves. It's their parents and grandparents that are dying


He was bringing up comparisons to drug overdoses and HIV. For kids. Simply responding to his point.

And at this point I don't know what you all expect. There are widespread cases in every state. It is pretty contagious. If you send kids back to school or people back to work, you are going to have more cases. Probably a lot more. It is either that or you keep everyone home until fall 2021. Those are your options.

Cases have been too widespread for masks to eradicate it at this point. They will slow the spread but we've been been past the point of no return for a while now.
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In reply to Betitall • 10:44p, 9/18/20
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Ware your mask and shut up
There's a good communist.
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I'm not so sure about that. There have already been several weeks of HS & college football games, many with fans in the stadiums, and I have not seen ANY REPORTS of new masses getting sick and spreading the disease. It is quite possible that what we've been hearing for months, that most younger people (the majority of those who attend these games) will not be harmed by it. There still is a danger that they will become carriers and transmit it to others but that is always the case with any disease. I understand the need for precautions and the use of common sense (which kids often don't do) but I do not see a reason to panic or to keep the economy in permanent lockdown.
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glad we've established the TDS infected folks. great thread.
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In reply to RightRevBear • 11:53p, 9/18/20
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People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
So what about the other thousands who are not able to receive Cancer treatments, etc because Hospitals won't open the doors. I am sorry for your friend but people die all the time. Period. To shut down the World and forceable movement against our rights for what amounts to Flu numbers is a joke.
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In reply to jdkingbear • 12:29a, 9/19/20
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Chump did not create Covid, but he sure as hell dropped the ball on it. Thousands have died because of him. Not believing that does not make it untrue.
You got that right sir.
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YEAH RIGHT.. IT WAS PEELOSI WHO ENCOURAGED ALL TO COME TO CHINA TOWN. AND BLAZIO SAID WE ARE NEW YORKERS WE ARE STRONG THIS WILL NOT AFFECT US.. THE DEMS WERE TOO BUSY TRYING TO FALSELY IMPEACH TRUMP FOR SOMETHING BIDEN REALLY DID, (QUID PRO QUO) INSTEAD OF TAKING CARE OF THE REST OF AMERICA.. AND THEY BLAME TRUMP FOR EVERY THING.. SPEAKING OF THANG, THAT IS WHO OR WAHT JOE BIDEN SAID CREATED ALL OF US.. WHAT A DUD HE IS.
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Turn off the all caps and take your meds, please.
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In reply to BearTruth13 • 8:08a, 9/19/20
BearTruth13 said:
ImwithBU said:
BearTruth13 said:
RightRevBear said:
BearTruth13 said:
RightRevBear said:
People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.


You are a snowflake.

My 84 year old grandmother got it at her nursing home and is fully recovered.

It is a deadly virus to 0.02% of the population under 49. Roughly the same chance as dying in a car accident this year.
A few of things. First, I am glad your grandmother survived. I really mean it, and I am not saying this in a rude or disrespectful way.


With that said I could care less about the death rate below 49, because I care about people that are younger than 49, who are currently 49, and who are older than 49. Our current count is 198,000 deaths. In 2018, we had 67,367 drug overdose deaths. The American Lung Association estimated that 154,050 died of lung cancer in 2018. In 2018, 15,820 HIV+ people died from all causes. Doing a little math this means that 19769.75 people died from drug overdoses, lung cancer, and Aids per month in 2018. Our first Covid death was in late February, so in the eight months we have had 24,750 people die from Covid.

Let's apply your logic about Covid to these three issues.We should tell our kids drugs aren't that dangerous, so go ahead and use all you want. Not that many people die from lung cancer, so I'll buy you a pack a day. AIDS doesn't kill that many people, so I want you to have all the unprotected sex you can get. Make sure the girl is on the pill though, because we wouldn't want a pregnancy.


We can argue over the accuracy of these numbers, about comorbidities, etc. Some groups say it is over counting and others are saying it under counts, and both sides have valid points. If you die in a car wreck while Covid+, you should not count as a Covid death. Also, may of our states weren't prepared to track these numbers, and this lead to under counting.











Of that 198,000, 121 are age 21 and under. 121! Per the CDC.


Dude your yelling at the clouds. Everyone knows young people are not dying in droves. It's their parents and grandparents that are dying


He was bringing up comparisons to drug overdoses and HIV. For kids. Simply responding to his point.

And at this point I don't know what you all expect. There are widespread cases in every state. It is pretty contagious. If you send kids back to school or people back to work, you are going to have more cases. Probably a lot more. It is either that or you keep everyone home until fall 2021. Those are your options.

Cases have been too widespread for masks to eradicate it at this point. They will slow the spread but we've been been past the point of no return for a while now.

After 5 full weeks of school and 5 weeks of HS football in Tennessee the 7 day moving average of cases is lower than before schools opened. Link below. Not all schools are open - Memphis City schools are closed for example - but all the surrounding districts Arlington, Bartlett, Germantown, Collierville are open. All the private schools are open. Most are elementary 5 days a week in person. The middle and high schools are 2 days in person 3 days remote.

In summary - some of the schools are open and are in person (not remote), restaurants open, playgrounds and parks open, churches open, businesses open, hair salons open.

Hospitals not overwhelmed. People that want to get out get out. People that want to stay in stay in. Seems to be working.. if the goal is not overwhelming hospitals.

https://www.tn.gov/content/tn/health/cedep/ncov/data.html
click & scroll for case chart with 7 day avg.

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In reply to SoonerFrogs • 10:05a, 9/19/20
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glad we've established the TDS infected folks. great thread.


#truth

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In reply to historian • 10:07a, 9/19/20
historian said:
I'm not so sure about that. There have already been several weeks of HS & college football games, many with fans in the stadiums, and I have not seen ANY REPORTS of new masses getting sick and spreading the disease. It is quite possible that what we've been hearing for months, that most younger people (the majority of those who attend these games) will not be harmed by it. There still is a danger that they will become carriers and transmit it to others but that is always the case with any disease. I understand the need for precautions and the use of common sense (which kids often don't do) but I do not see a reason to panic or to keep the economy in permanent lockdown.


10s of thousands of little league games around the country all summer long and we didn't lose a single little leaguer and parents and grandparents PACKED in the stands with no masks etc.

The sheeple have been exposed. Little Leavue is the cure for covid apparently.

And Swedes and Norwegians.
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In reply to historian • 10:46a, 9/19/20
historian said:
I'm not so sure about that. There have already been several weeks of HS & college football games, many with fans in the stadiums, and I have not seen ANY REPORTS of new masses getting sick and spreading the disease. It is quite possible that what we've been hearing for months, that most younger people (the majority of those who attend these games) will not be harmed by it. There still is a danger that they will become carriers and transmit it to others but that is always the case with any disease. I understand the need for precautions and the use of common sense (which kids often don't do) but I do not see a reason to panic or to keep the economy in permanent lockdown.
I have not seen any reports of new cases with the Big 12 schools that did play last week
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In reply to San Diego Bear • 10:48a, 9/19/20
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The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
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My golf game better get way better with all the open weekends or I'm really gonna be pissed
I tried but I had to quarantine my balls because the pro said one of balls had been contact traced
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In reply to Waco1947 • 11:42a, 9/19/20
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San Diego Bear said:
The game being canceled is sad news. Yes, The Dude, "Total Bummer!"

What is more sad is enthusiastic support of Trump. I get it if you are a staunch republican. You have legit platform issues that matter to you. I get it. I've been a republican for most of my life, though not currently. I'm Independent. But the enthusiasm for Trump is just baffling.

And:
- Believing in science, including all of the scientific representatives
- Believing that COVID is not a hoax, nor the deaths (pre-existing conditions count as deaths)
- Believing that wearing a mask is the #1 act of love we can all do for each other
...May be against Trump, but it's not leftist. Yet, another McCarthy era scare tactic to go along with Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon policies, and the Misinformation tactics of the Russian state (How ironic is this by the way). Just sad. So, so sad.
Truth ^^^^^
If you ever were a Republican that Calif. Kool Aid they serve out there really works. You are the very definition of leftist. Your just fine with .....Lets see your forests are on fire, your city sidewalks and parks are packed with homeless people shooting up, urinating and defecating in plain sight, Higher taxes to support the government freebies for illegals, people are leaving Calif. in such numbers that U Haul will let anyone moving to Calif. use a van or trailer for free just so they don't have to pay someone to haul them back so they have vans and trailers for the next exodus from Calif.
You don't believe in science ....you believe what the liberal media tells you to believe and calls it science. Dem & Media hero Fauci has been all over the place on masks (just as one example). Hydroxychloroquine saved my grandfathers and grandmothers life but because Trump is for it the media and Pharmaceutical Companies are against it...ever ask why ?....it costs pennies to produce !!! Its been around for 60 years. If you served in the military and were stationed over seas you took it. Any cardio problems ? It was all about the dollars. The over reaction to China Virus is a Hoax !!! H1N1 was much worse as far as a death sentence but Dems had power then so no need to shut the economy down to win the election. McCarthy scare tactics ??? Johnson and Nixon policies ??? If it wouldn't be such a disaster for this country I would let you libs win in Nov. Biden would be the first President to be "medically retired" and Harris would be President and Sanders, AOC and fellow Socialists would turn the USA into Greece in a year or two at the most and teach this country's youth and ponytailed 70's
professors who missed the 60's movement what Socialism really is then 2022 would be Republican landslide of biblical proportions that could well end the Democratic party as an effective political party for 50 years.
Unfortunately the cost to this country would be to great......So the enthusiastic support of Trump. that you find so sad is because Trump is the only thing standing between Socialism and America as we know it. 4 more Years !!!!
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11:52a, 9/19/20
Hey, San Diego, Biden will allow open borders, he'll give China anything they want, he'll double taxes, he's weak on crime, he will not support the police, he'll weaken our National defense, he'll put an ultra lib on the Supreme Court, he'll allow gov confiscation of public lands, he'll allow Iran to build a nuclear bomb, he'll take our gun rights, plus HE Doesn't Have A Brain! Radical Kamala Harris will take over in his first term. Trump will do the opposite of all that. That's why he has support.
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Trump is the most influential president that has ever existed.

He alone has the power to turn every. single. football. thread. on a Baylor fans web site into a shouting match between opposing political partisans.

No other person, ever, has been able to do that.

Well done, you goobers. Well done.
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Trump is the most influential president that has ever existed.

He alone has the power to turn every. single. football. thread. on a Baylor fans web site into a shouting match between opposing political partisans.

No other person, ever, has been able to do that.

Well done, you goobers. Well done.
God it must be terrible for you died in the wool libs to accept the fact that Trump has shown conservatives how to fight back against the libs BS when for so many years you yelled the loudest and longest to get your way...welcome to payback city
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blueeyedbear said:
Michibear said:
Trump is the most influential president that has ever existed.

He alone has the power to turn every. single. football. thread. on a Baylor fans web site into a shouting match between opposing political partisans.

No other person, ever, has been able to do that.

Well done, you goobers. Well done.
God it must be terrible for you died in the wool libs to accept the fact that Trump has shown conservatives how to fight back against the libs BS when for so many years you yelled the loudest and longest to get your way...welcome to payback city
Hahahahahaha!!! You think I'm a liberal because I'd rather see football talk on a football forum??

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1:29p, 9/19/20
Dear Mack Rhodes and the Baylor Bear Foundation,

Please just change course and announce zero attendance for any home games played this year and refund all of the ticket purchases now. It will be much easier on you to manage the program this year, and especially the fans whose lives and schedules you are yanking around with your extremely poor timing of decisions.

Sincerely,

The soon to be departing fans of Baylor Football
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Updated Saturday, Sept. 19, 2020 at 2:41 p.m. CT.

Less than 24 hours ahead of a football contest between Baylor University and the University of Houston scheduled for Saturday inside McLane Stadium, the game was postponed because of COVID-19 concerns, sources tell SicEm365.

According to a source close to the Baylor program, the Bears would have been without a significant portion of a single position group making it unsafe to play. That information was the driving factor behind the cancellation which correlates with the Big 12 protocols that have several specific personnel thresholds a team must meet for certain position groups as well as the entire roster.

Big 12 teams must have at least 53 players available to play, a minimum of seven offensive linemen and four interior defensive linemen, and at least a single quarterback. Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Friday afternoon that Baylor did not meet the threshold for one of the specific positions, but did not confirm which position.

Following the original report on Friday afternoon, SicEm365 spoke with an official from the City of Waco who confirmed it was not a local government decision that postponed the game, citing that because Baylor University is as a private institution, they do not have jurisdiction over the Big 12 program.

The official also clarified that Waco had merely adopted CDC and state protocols and not implemented their own, meaning any protocols that Baylor might be following were not from the local level. Baylor was and continues to be responsible for conducting their own contact tracing, according to the official, not the city.

According to the CDC website, "state and local public health officials will decide how to implement" guidelines put forth by the CDC and are also responsible for advising "specific people, or groups of people, to be tested."
Even with all of the guidelines put in place in weeks and month prior, the decision to postpone the game came with extreme frustration.

Specifically, the ultimate factor behind the postponement of the game was a result of contact tracing, not positive results of conducted COVID-19 tests on football players and staff members. Because of the guidelines followed, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game as a direct result of contact tracing and not due to positive COVID-19 tests, the source said.

Several Baylor players that were set to miss the game did not receive a single positive test, and despite also receiving multiple negative tests in the same time frame, were not allowed to return to team activities because of regulations in place for contact tracing.

Big 12 programs are required to test athletes three times during game weeks to best monitor developing cases. Because of the league guideline in place, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game against Houston despite the potential of having up to six negative COVID-19 tests over the last two weeks.

On Saturday, following the original release of the report, a source close to Baylor Athletics confirmed to SicEm365 that there were instances of players in contact tracing protocols who tested negative multiple times after coming in contact with an individual who had previously tested positive. Those players were not knowingly exposed to any positive testing persons again.

An additional frustration, according to a source close to Baylor Athletics, comes from the inability to retest athletes who test positive for COVID-19. The inability to retest prevents checking for false-positive results which have been a regular occurrence when testing for the virus.

Per a release on Sept. 14, Baylor's athletic department has had 88 positive tests across multiple sports since the beginning of June. Of those, six were currently active including two asymptomatic cases and four symptomatic. According to the release, a total of 23 athletes and staff members across all sports were being monitored for potential cases.

The news comes less than seven days after Big 12 program and the American Athletic Conference program agreed to play in Waco on Saturday. The programs lost games against Louisiana Tech and Memphis over COVID-19 concerns and the mutual open date was utilized to schedule to game.
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2:49p, 9/19/20
All I read was the government is a joke and should never follow their lead
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In reply to Colt B. • 2:51p, 9/19/20
Thanks Colt. Solid fact based reporting to counter some pretty wild speculation on these boards and elsewhere.

It's a disappointment but life goes on and so will Baylor football.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
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Why can't a positive be retested? Is it a cost issue? No tests available? Not Enough time to retest?
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In reply to Aliceinbubbleland • 5:00p, 9/19/20
Aliceinbubbleland said:
DanaDane said:
Someone needs to be held accountable for this debacle. Mack Rhoades? Aranda? Dave Snyder?
This is unacceptable.
Bowlsby. It's his rules. Stop blaming us.
How does every other Big 12 team make it work? Something is going wrong on our part. Also did not get a great feeling with how sketchy Mack was about it on radio.
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In reply to Jacques Strap • 6:25p, 9/19/20
No one cares about Tennessee. Baylor is in Texas. We care about Texas.
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In reply to jbaylor37 • 8:18p, 9/19/20
jbaylor37 said:
Aliceinbubbleland said:
DanaDane said:
Someone needs to be held accountable for this debacle. Mack Rhoades? Aranda? Dave Snyder?
This is unacceptable.
Bowlsby. It's his rules. Stop blaming us.
How does every other Big 12 team make it work? Something is going wrong on our part. Also did not get a great feeling with how sketchy Mack was about it on radio.


The buck stops with Mack. Period.
I'm a Bearbacker
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