Bear8084 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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This is devastating news on the long-term recruiting front. Despite what some may believe, giving access to Texas recruits to Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado along with elevating SMU and Houston to power conference status does not magically create more recruits in the state of Texas for those programs to add to their recruiting classes. These changes will come at a cost.

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Yep, BU has it's issues of being mediocre in SWC, Big12 and now Big12+. Not getting much respect anywhere even after B12 Championship and SB victory.

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This disrespect is where exactly? Our President sits as the head of the Big 12 Board of Directors.

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BBWCBear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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This is devastating news on the long-term recruiting front. Despite what some may believe, giving access to Texas recruits to Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado along with elevating SMU and Houston to power conference status does not magically create more recruits in the state of Texas for those programs to add to their recruiting classes. These changes will come at a cost.

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Yep, BU has it's issues of being mediocre in SWC, Big12 and now Big12+. Not getting much respect anywhere even after B12 Championship and SB victory.

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This disrespect is where exactly? Our President sits as the head of the Big 12 Board of Directors.

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Well, there's Kurt Schulz, so..,

I've checked more than once… don't see BU in any rankings. Of course it's pre-season, but no where to be found. Not much discussion by any and all pundits currently, toads and Joey seem to catch most attention. Upon the first "four" joining B12 some mentioned BU as a top tier contender of the conference. Kinda died down.Hopefully, their playing can change that. We'll find out second week if there is any credence.

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PartyBear said:

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Abercrombie. You have been a doomsdayer for the XII and or Baylor all along. Up until the past few months you were talking how the new XII would collapse in the face of the strong and lucrative Pac for example. Now that the opposite has occurred the sky is still falling for Baylor because the XII is now large, strong, diverse, healthy and SMU is now in the ACC for free.

The even newer version of the XII is not bad at all for Baylor or any other Texas member or any member for that matter, it is extremely good in fact. No Texas school should should be scared or intimidated by SMU being in the ACC. You need to knock off your every thing is terrible for Baylor schtick.

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boykin_spaniel said:

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You do know we're allowed to recruit in other states and work the transfer portal right? You remind me of that lieutenant in LOTR to Theoden in the movies who says "long has he foreseen this doom!" Aragorn proceeds to kick ass and continue heading east.

Recruits not from Texas:
Tyquan Thornton, Blake Shapen, Gerry Bohanon, Matthew Klopenstein, Sean Thompkins, Carl Williams, Kaian Roberts-Day, George Maile, Alfonzo Allen, Tevin Williams, Devin Neal, Micah Mezzccua, Al Walcott, Garmon Randolph, Blake Bedier, John Lovett, Khalil Keith, the list goes on…

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This was SMU's best 24 hours ever: receives ACC invite & TCU loses in hyped nationally televised game

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) September 2, 2023

LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Bear8084 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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This is devastating news on the long-term recruiting front. Despite what some may believe, giving access to Texas recruits to Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado along with elevating SMU and Houston to power conference status does not magically create more recruits in the state of Texas for those programs to add to their recruiting classes. These changes will come at a cost.

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Yep, BU has it's issues of being mediocre in SWC, Big12 and now Big12+. Not getting much respect anywhere even after B12 Championship and SB victory.

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This disrespect is where exactly? Our President sits as the head of the Big 12 Board of Directors.

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BBWCBear said:

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Bear8084 said:

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BBWCBear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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This is devastating news on the long-term recruiting front. Despite what some may believe, giving access to Texas recruits to Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado along with elevating SMU and Houston to power conference status does not magically create more recruits in the state of Texas for those programs to add to their recruiting classes. These changes will come at a cost.

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Yep, BU has it's issues of being mediocre in SWC, Big12 and now Big12+. Not getting much respect anywhere even after B12 Championship and SB victory.

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This disrespect is where exactly? Our President sits as the head of the Big 12 Board of Directors.

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Uhhh, Bear8084… we gonna struggle to be mediocre this year, we actually suck BAD.

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Yogi said:

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LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Actually, we will all be included.

Greed has no end, and as long as the major two keep adding to their portfolios, all of the traditional P5's should wind up in one or the other

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Yogi said:

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LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Actually, we will all be included.

Greed has no end, and as long as the major two keep adding to their portfolios, all of the traditional P5's should wind up in one or the other

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Absolutely guaranteed we will NOT be in big two group when our GOT expire. We are OSU and WSU come 2032

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boognish_bear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Yogi said:

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LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Actually, we will all be included.

Greed has no end, and as long as the major two keep adding to their portfolios, all of the traditional P5's should wind up in one or the other

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Absolutely guaranteed we will NOT be in big two group when our GOT expire. We are OSU and WSU come 2032

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That's another reason why we can't wait around with Aranda. We need to take decisive action and cut him loose quickly if this turns into the losing season it's looking like.

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boognish_bear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Yogi said:

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LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Actually, we will all be included.

Greed has no end, and as long as the major two keep adding to their portfolios, all of the traditional P5's should wind up in one or the other

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Absolutely guaranteed we will NOT be in big two group when our GOT expire. We are OSU and WSU come 2032

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That's another reason why we can't wait around with Aranda. We need to take decisive action and cut him loose quickly if this turns into the losing season it's looking like.

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BBWCBear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Aliceinbubbleland said:

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Yogi said:

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LagunaBear said:

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Yogi said:

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Can we exchange West Virginia for SMU?

Just kidding.

They'll both be Big 12 teams when the ACC finally explodes.

I fully expect Miami, Clemson, North Carolina, and Florida State to all go to the Major 2.

I then expect that the Major 2 will take a 4-6 more ACC and Big XII teams.

The Big XII will then eat the remainder of the ACC and realignment will cool down until the next contract negotiations.

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The Major 2 / Power 2 scenario is what I'm thinking, too. When it happens we'll need BY to work some magic to keep the Big 12 and other conferences at the table. I think the Power 2 are going to start looking for ways to exclude the rest of us.

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Actually, we will all be included.

Greed has no end, and as long as the major two keep adding to their portfolios, all of the traditional P5's should wind up in one or the other

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Absolutely guaranteed we will NOT be in big two group when our GOT expire. We are OSU and WSU come 2032

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That's another reason why we can't wait around with Aranda. We need to take decisive action and cut him loose quickly if this turns into the losing season it's looking like.

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Can you honestly find 6 or 7 wins?

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Ghostrider said:

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Huge win for SMU…they get to be with NC, Duke, Virginia, Wake Forest….huge for the academics.

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Florida State calls Board of Trustees meeting on Friday to discuss athletics future. This is school's 1st step in FSU's attempt to eventually leave the ACC

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) December 21, 2023

Yogi said:

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When the ACC implodes, be ready for the two major conferences to start taking the pick of the litter from the ACC and the XII.

I think we are headed for a professional college football league made up of two conferences each with 32 to 34 programs per conference.

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FSU to Cal on the way out:

pic.twitter.com/K7zolrYMeV https://t.co/nMlmE2vQzU

— Andrew Hammond (@ahammALDC) December 21, 2023

Aberzombie1892 said:

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This is devastating news on the long-term recruiting front. Despite what some may believe, giving access to Texas recruits to Arizona, Arizona State, Utah, and Colorado along with elevating SMU and Houston to power conference status does not magically create more recruits in the state of Texas for those programs to add to their recruiting classes. These changes will come at a cost.

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Florida State starting process of leaving ACC "will have an ‘Oppenheimer-like’ ripple effect" thru out college landscape, source told @ActionNetworkHQ. As one of biggest TV brands, FSU could land in Big Ten or SEC, and if those aren't options, the Big 12, sources said

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) December 21, 2023

SMU entering the ACC like https://t.co/RfrgVMqXhg pic.twitter.com/iSNrhLf3Qo

— Raider Ty (@RaiderTy92) December 21, 2023

Florida State BOT counsel David Ashburn says that SMU, California and Stanford -- the three new members of the ACC in 2024-25 -- don't bring tier-one media value in football, and the rest of the conference will diminish the bargaining power for the ACC in future media rights…

— Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸 (@BarrettSallee) December 22, 2023

vanillabryce said:

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When the ACC blows up… and it will when Clemson and FSU leave - SMU is gonna go right back down. But at least they'll be going with Wake, BC, and a few others.

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