KC Keeler
Major Applewhite

Gary Patterson.

Already has a connection with much of our coaching staff and may be able to keep Coach Hall and some experience coaching in the XII.

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Gary Patterson.

Already has a connection with much of our coaching staff and may be able to keep Coach Hall and some experience coaching in the XII.

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Don't forget we're still Baylor, and given that fact, it's hard to see the powers that be agreeing to somebody like Patterson leading the program. Having him temporarily around in some relatively minor consultative role is probably about as far as it will ever go. However, if through some one in a million chance that actually happened, it would be funny to beat TCU with a HC that has a statue of himself outside their stadium.

I don't want anyone who needs on the job training. I'd prefer someone with head coaching experience. I like younger rather than older but could be satisfied with a re tread.

JAMEY CHADWELL

IowaBear said:

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Remember who Jamey Chadwell's boss is? I'm sure in casual conversation Jamey has heard about the 2016 dumpster fire and how BOR handled it. I don't think he'll be interested in coming to BU.

How people are treated has unintended consequences.

johnnychimpo said:

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KC Keeler
Major Applewhite

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BOR will never approve Major Applewhite due to his relationship with a student while on staff at UT.

I don't think i would want dabo honestly. He refuses to adjust to the new world of college football and while that may somewhat work at Clemson it would not work here

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johnnychimpo said:

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KC Keeler
Major Applewhite

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BOR will never approve Major Applewhite due to his relationship with a student while on staff at UT.

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Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

Matt Entz
KC Keeler

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what about paul chryst

great run at wisconsin, fired too soon at the end imho

if guys like blake anderson and tyson helton are on the list i don't see how you cannot have a guy like chryst

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Chryst looks like a solid candidate to me. He is "rehabilitating" his name as an OC analyst at UT this year.
Maybe he gets some looks next season

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I said this in a different thread but hiring a guy like Chryst would require some questions to be asked about what he wants to try and do. If he is trying to mimic what he did at Wisconsin, that's a tough task. They built up that power run program over a decade before his arrival, with Alvarez as head coach. Then Fats Bielema took over for 5-6 years, they churned through 3 guys in 3-4 years before stabilizing again with Chryst.

Anyways, if his plan was to do bully ball at Baylor, it would take quite a bit of development and patience. Would fans be able to weather a development period?

I think it's slightly possible to play bully ball here, if for no other reason than we pounded the tar out of North Carolina in the Russel Athletic bowl. However, that's just 1 game - not a committed attack for an entire season. Plus, that was 2015, so a full 7 years into Briles tenure. It could take equally as long to recruit and develop the OL workhorses needed for that kind of attack. Do Texas high schools even play that kind of ball? You also have to look at what your recruiting base has.

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Interesting indeed but can you keep players on campus long enough these days to develop everything ? Maybe

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Bandito said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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KC Keeler
Major Applewhite

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BOR will never approve Major Applewhite due to his relationship with a student while on staff at UT.

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Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

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Yep. Just making a statement of where we are with our leadership.

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Bandito said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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KC Keeler
Major Applewhite

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BOR will never approve Major Applewhite due to his relationship with a student while on staff at UT.

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Let he who is without sin throw the first stone.

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Yep. Just making a statement of where we are with our leadership.

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Yeah, I get it. I agree. Self righteous posers, basically.

Gary Joe would come in a heart-beat...... per his Great Uncle and Baylor Graduate............and my former room mate ................and he's just 36 years old.

Notre Dame, Florida, Arkansas, Cincy, Temple South Carolina, and Florida State could all be head coach shopping later this season.

I would bank all those roles will be available....Baylor needs to CUT THE CORD NOW!!!!!!!!

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jikespingleton said:

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montypython said:

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thales said:

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what about paul chryst

great run at wisconsin, fired too soon at the end imho

if guys like blake anderson and tyson helton are on the list i don't see how you cannot have a guy like chryst

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Chryst looks like a solid candidate to me. He is "rehabilitating" his name as an OC analyst at UT this year.
Maybe he gets some looks next season

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I said this in a different thread but hiring a guy like Chryst would require some questions to be asked about what he wants to try and do. If he is trying to mimic what he did at Wisconsin, that's a tough task. They built up that power run program over a decade before his arrival, with Alvarez as head coach. Then Fats Bielema took over for 5-6 years, they churned through 3 guys in 3-4 years before stabilizing again with Chryst.

Anyways, if his plan was to do bully ball at Baylor, it would take quite a bit of development and patience. Would fans be able to weather a development period?

I think it's slightly possible to play bully ball here, if for no other reason than we pounded the tar out of North Carolina in the Russel Athletic bowl. However, that's just 1 game - not a committed attack for an entire season. Plus, that was 2015, so a full 7 years into Briles tenure. It could take equally as long to recruit and develop the OL workhorses needed for that kind of attack. Do Texas high schools even play that kind of ball? You also have to look at what your recruiting base has.

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Interesting indeed but can you keep players on campus long enough these days to develop everything ? Maybe

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Indeed. That adds yet another obstacle to bully ball at Baylor. To be fair, we don't know if Chryst is even tempted to run that kind of system again. He may be smart enough to look at what a school can pull recruiting wise and adjust his plan accordingly.

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Major Applewhite

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Keeler is interesting, thanks. Added!

I think he would have been a medium risk high reward hire for as as far back as 2004, after his first lower division title.

His age and possible lack of NIL experience may be drawbacks, but not necessarily so.

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Matt Entz
KC Keeler

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Entz is already on the list

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Chadwell is already on the list

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He would be my hallelujah candidate. I think there's maybe like a 10% chance he'd actually agreed to it, but it would be worth a shot. Liberty is filthy rich, and they pay him well

No thanks to Paul Chryst. I don't really want any retread coach tbh. Whilst he would be better than Dave, I feel like there's got to be better candidates out there.


I also think we could do a lot worse than finding the most dominant FCS coach that we can get. Like anything, it's risky, but it seems to have worked well for other schools.

Bear in mind that every candidate is going to have to pass the squeaky clean southern Baptist litmus test.

In my opinion, the absolute non-negotiables for who we hire are twofold:

1. A head coach with recent success who has taken a program from bad to at least decent. If they are coming off a rebuilding gear, that's fine, but I do not want a coach that has just been good for one year

2. The coach absolutely must have some sort of identity that works holistically with his recruiting philosophy.

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Gary Patterson.

Already has a connection with much of our coaching staff and may be able to keep Coach Hall and some experience coaching in the XII.

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I'd kick the tires on him.

What happened his last 4 seasons?

Seems like he lost the team at the end. That and his last few coordinator hires were subpar. What happened there? Was he just mailing it in?

Was it a Dabo type thing were he really hated the changes in CFB and refused to move with them?

Who would he hire as coordinators? If its one or all of those guys from his later years on the tcu staff, then no thanks moving on..

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IowaBear said:

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Bear in mind that every candidate is going to have to pass the squeaky clean southern Baptist litmus test.

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What is the litmus test? Deny there is a problem, then try to cover it up and then ultimately throw everyone else under the bus to make yourself look good?

Yes, it's ironic. The guy getting hired to play a game will have a microscope put on his character, whilst that same microscope will never be directed towards the people signing paychecks and making decisions for the university at the highest level

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IowaBear said:

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Bear in mind that every candidate is going to have to pass the squeaky clean southern Baptist litmus test.

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What is the litmus test? Deny there is a problem, then try to cover it up and then ultimately throw everyone else under the bus to make yourself look good?

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Lmao so true

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Notre Dame, Florida, Arkansas, Cincy, Temple South Carolina, and Florida State could all be head coach shopping later this season.

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Unlikely, very likely, likely, unlikely, no idea, possibly, very unlikely.

Add UNC to the list after Mack Brown pooped the bed against mighty James Madison. This season will be Mack's last.

IF Baylor were to have an opening for HC, Traylor is probably the obvious choice. Maybe not the best but the most obvious.

It's a moot point however. Unless some of the people wanting Aranda fired are BMD's willing to drop a few million dollars on the Athletic Dept, it's not gonna to happen. Regardless of the amount of the buyout, it's doubtful anyone in this board will provide the $$$$ for it to happen. This board has become fantasy football for firing the HC.

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IF Baylor were to have an opening for HC, Traylor is probably the obvious choice. Maybe not the best but the most obvious.

It's a moot point however. Unless some of the people wanting Aranda fired are BMD's willing to drop a few million dollars on the Athletic Dept, it's not gonna to happen. Regardless of the amount of the buyout, it's doubtful anyone in this board will provide the $$$$ for it to happen. This board has become fantasy football for firing the HC.

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Are you serious with this post? This is a free message board for people to discuss Baylor football. Congratulations, no one on here is rich enough enough to fire your boy

It's obvious who the athletic department plants are. And anyone who doesn't think that this board is full of them is insane

I know I'm stating the obvious. People need to learn how to cope with reality.

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IowaBear said:

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Chadwell is already on the list

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Can you post the updated list?

The answer is probably an FCS coach. Matt Rhule showed that it's possible to staff around the HC not previously having Texas ties, so Texas ties - or the lack thereof - shouldn't be a major factor in assessing potential coaches. Moving beyond that, the key will be a coach that is consistently overperforming based on both resources and recruiting, and the best place to track that is major winners at the FCS level.

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IowaBear said:

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Chadwell is already on the list

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Can you post the updated list?

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I update the OP.

That way people don't have to scroll through pages and pages to find a list.

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IF Baylor were to have an opening for HC, Traylor is probably the obvious choice. Maybe not the best but the most obvious.

It's a moot point however. Unless some of the people wanting Aranda fired are BMD's willing to drop a few million dollars on the Athletic Dept, it's not gonna to happen. Regardless of the amount of the buyout, it's doubtful anyone in this board will provide the $$$$ for it to happen. This board has become fantasy football for firing the HC.

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Are you serious with this post? This is a free message board for people to discuss Baylor football. Congratulations, no one on here is rich enough enough to fire your boy

It's obvious who the athletic department plants are. And anyone who doesn't think that this board is full of them is insane

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Pointing out the obvious doesn't mean someone is a plant.

Some people on this board are just more pragmatic than others.

If I had ties to the Baylor athletic dept. I would be at a lot more games, both football & basketball.

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JAMEY CHADWELL

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Remember who Jamey Chadwell's boss is? I'm sure in casual conversation Jamey has heard about the 2016 dumpster fire and how BOR handled it. I don't think he'll be interested in coming to BU.

How people are treated has unintended consequences.

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This. Dont forget the trial testimony from last Fall which completely contradicted the narrative advanced here repeatedly since 2016 to the point some here accept it as true. Ian if I recall testified under oath that the leaders among the board directed him to frame Briles for the the sexual assault scandal so they can have have a scape goat. Ian refused and the board leaders told him fine then they will do it and by the way hand us your resignation. Incidentall there was board testimony as well that said that actually Briles did nothing wrong and performed his job very well including matters off the field.

Not a coincidence that extremely soon after this trial, Baylor's current administration decided it would be a good idea to honor Briles' championship teams all the sudden and to announce that publicly.

If you dont think Ian hasnt mentioned these past work experiences among his new colleagues, you have to be naive.