Here is Baylor's Letter To Briles

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NoBSU
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Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
MilliVanilli
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Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?
You've had 18 months to join reality and chosen not to that, that's why you're reduced to race baiting on the internet and deflecting from a reality you refuse to come to terms with.
Still waiting for you to list these proven abuses......
A willful divorce from reality is a personal problem, no amount of internet ranting will fix that.
Oldbear83
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NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
Vote me in as regent, I will bring reform and respect back to BU.
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
NoBSU
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Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
Vote me in as regent, I will bring reform and respect back to BU.
Uh huh. Will you consider a mascot change from Bear to Ostrich? I want my regent candidate to support a truthful representation to the world.
Keyser Soze
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Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

Again, what are those assumptions?

Malbec
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Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So you are saying Lebby, Kaz and Shillinglaw ignored these ? Again, not a shred of proof that happened. Not one single piece.
No, he's saying they didn't ignore them. He's saying they told Briles about them, then they all conspired to not report them and/or pressure the "victim" into not reporting and/or whatever way you cover up a rape. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else. Even though he says, "Baylor never said he covered up rape," and that Baylor didn't create the narrative that caused Briles' pariah status in college football, he believes the narrative.

Baylor didn't say it, Baylor didn't have an obligation to refute it, but it's true nonetheless, so anything else is pointless.
Oldbear83
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NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
Vote me in as regent, I will bring reform and respect back to BU.
Uh huh. Will you consider a mascot change from Bear to Ostrich? I want my regent candidate to support a truthful representation to the world.
Nope. The Ostrich is the secret mascot of UT
That which does not kill me, will try again and get nastier
NoBSU
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Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
Vote me in as regent, I will bring reform and respect back to BU.
Uh huh. Will you consider a mascot change from Bear to Ostrich? I want my regent candidate to support a truthful representation to the world.
Nope. The Ostrich is the secret mascot of UT
Naw, UT is more of the peacock.
NoBSU
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Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

NoBSU said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Oldbear83 said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So, in a past life, were you Stasi or full-on KGB?
Nope, just have eyes open and don't let a winning record in football cloud the facts like many around here
Apparently, you have cataracts which prevent you from seeing beyond your assumptions.
And what assumptions are those?

That the text messages no one denies are real? or they didn't just made up the story about the emails on Shillinglaw's account which shows they saw the police report of Oakman's assault charges and reported nothing ?


You build your opinion on spite and malice, then ignore everything that might suggest you are in error.

You'd fit in well at ESPN.

You fit in well at Baylor.
Vote me in as regent, I will bring reform and respect back to BU.
Uh huh. Will you consider a mascot change from Bear to Ostrich? I want my regent candidate to support a truthful representation to the world.
Nope. The Ostrich is the secret mascot of UT
Double post
Private Pyle
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Remember when Briles.....he'll even Kevin Steele won only 1 game? I don't.
Keyser Soze
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Private Pyle said:

Remember when Briles.....he'll even Kevin Steele won only 1 game? I don't.

Do you have a point relevant to this thread ?

osoprimo
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With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.
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osoprimo said:

With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.
"I had no idea what my best friends and men I've worked with for 25 years were doing under my authority" is a GREAT defense!
Bear8084
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osoprimo said:

With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.


Is this another "Wait until..." that will suddenly exonerate Briles and get him hired somewhere else instantly?

I am no fan the BOR and want them to feel the heat too, but the "Wait until..." Briles hope won't be the thing that brings it.
xiledinok
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osoprimo said:

With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.


Nationally, he and Jerry Sandusky have something very big in common these days.
Those two are the faces of rape and sexual violence on college campuses and athletics.
There has already been a couple slip off the board. The general public doesn't give a flying f about the regents.
Now, they still click on robe stories.
Quinton
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Keyser Soze said:

Robert Wilson said:


"Like a mob boss..."

Good grief.

So if the assistants were a bunch of knowing henchmen to this mob boss, we sure did the brave and honorable thing by letting them hang around and coach another year?

Sorry, but there is absolutely no way to slice this thing thinly enough or in enough spirals to paint a reasonably convincing picture that it was handled well.

"The way the chain usually works is the head coach is last to know. Head coaches are sometimes protected, in certain instances, from minor issues. Now, major issues I was always made aware of."

His own words.

Keyser Soze
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Compounding said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robert Wilson said:


"Like a mob boss..."

Good grief.

So if the assistants were a bunch of knowing henchmen to this mob boss, we sure did the brave and honorable thing by letting them hang around and coach another year?

Sorry, but there is absolutely no way to slice this thing thinly enough or in enough spirals to paint a reasonably convincing picture that it was handled well.

"The way the chain usually works is the head coach is last to know. Head coaches are sometimes protected, in certain instances, from minor issues. Now, major issues I was always made aware of."

His own words.



Are you slow? Someone post the definitions of minor and major for this bor shill. So what you postrd basically says dont tell me about bulls*** nonsense but i should be informed about serious things. Nothing like the mob.
get informed about serious things ..... and fail to report them or do anything about them

That is what should get you worked up, not my analogies. Mob bosses also know what is going on, they just have underlings to shield them.
quash
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Keyser Soze said:

Compounding said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robert Wilson said:


"Like a mob boss..."

Good grief.

So if the assistants were a bunch of knowing henchmen to this mob boss, we sure did the brave and honorable thing by letting them hang around and coach another year?

Sorry, but there is absolutely no way to slice this thing thinly enough or in enough spirals to paint a reasonably convincing picture that it was handled well.

"The way the chain usually works is the head coach is last to know. Head coaches are sometimes protected, in certain instances, from minor issues. Now, major issues I was always made aware of."

His own words.



Are you slow? Someone post the definitions of minor and major for this bor shill. So what you postrd basically says dont tell me about bulls*** nonsense but i should be informed about serious things. Nothing like the mob.
get informed about serious things ..... and fail to report them or do anything about them

That is what should get you worked up about, not my analogies. Mob bosses also know what is going on, they just have underlings to shield them.

Thus the phrasing of the letter in the OP.
“Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place.” (The Law, p.6) Frederic Bastiat
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xiledinok said:

osoprimo said:

With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.


Nationally, he and Jerry Sandusky have something very big in common these days.
Those two are the faces of rape and sexual violence on college campuses and athletics.
There has already been a couple slip off the board. The general public doesn't give a flying f about the regents.
Now, they still click on robe stories.
Do you honestly think that Briles should be the face of rape . . . regardless of what everyone else may or may not think?
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I will speak from my honest personal experience. I live and work in a diverse environment. I interact with many college graduates and college sports fans, both men and women. I have never gone to bat for Art Briles in any interaction with anybody. Nobody I have come across sees Art Briles as the face of sexual violence. People generally have enough common sense to figure out what a systemic failure at a university means; this is why our problems did not simply go away once Briles was fired.

Most people know "irrational" when they see it - and no, I won't explain what I mean by that.
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Tommy_Lou_Ramsower said:

I will speak from my honest personal experience. I live and work in a diverse environment. I interact with many college graduates and college sports fans, both men and women. I have never gone to bat for Art Briles in any interaction with anybody. Nobody I have come across sees Art Briles as the face of sexual violence. People generally have enough common sense to figure out what a systemic failure at a university means; this is why our problems did not simply go away once Briles was fired.

Most people know "irrational" when they see it - and no, I won't explain what I mean by that.


Problem is it's not the rationale people that mobilize whenever Arts name comes up for a job
xiledinok
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Chuckroast said:

xiledinok said:

osoprimo said:

With legislation about to be passed negating existing Non-Disclosures a result of settlement of sexual assault / abuse / harassment cases, CAB will be free to tell his side of the story without legal restriction.

This may be enlightening. It may also result in the unexpected resignation/retirement of a BOR member or two.


Nationally, he and Jerry Sandusky have something very big in common these days.
Those two are the faces of rape and sexual violence on college campuses and athletics.
There has already been a couple slip off the board. The general public doesn't give a flying f about the regents.
Now, they still click on robe stories.
Do you honestly think that Briles should be the face of rape . . . regardless of what everyone else may or may not think?
No. Played a PR game and got smoked. Someone picked a bad moving forward strategy.
All support staff works for the head coach.
Wall Street Journal under the fold.
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57Bear
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Keyser Soze said:




At the end of a section on non sexual assault problems they wrote in Shillinglaw

"At some point, Pepper Hamilton stopped collecting such examples, which were not directly within the scope of its engagement*. There could be dozens more, ...



"There could be dozens" or there might be none.
80sBEAR
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Fun fact. Baylor paid Pepper Hamilton $5 million+ dollars for them to give our football program the death penalty. Has there ever been a board of regents at any school anywhere on ANY level that has been more incompetent? And none of them have resigned. Not one.
"This is not an institution of football."
-- Dr. David Garland
MilliVanilli
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80sBEAR said:

Fun fact. Baylor paid Pepper Hamilton $5 million+ dollars for them to give our football program the death penalty. Has there ever been a board of regents at any school anywhere on ANY level that has been more incompetent? And none of them have resigned. Not one.
Funner fact. You're full of utter crap.

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80sBEAR said:

Fun fact. Baylor paid Pepper Hamilton $5 million+ dollars for them to give our football program the death penalty. Has there ever been a board of regents at any school anywhere on ANY level that has been more incompetent? And none of them have resigned. Not one.
There were multiple ways to address/correct whatever issues were there that wouldn't have involved unnecessarily destroying the football program through paying big bucks to a law firm to essentially build a case against yourself. I will never understand what the thinking was there.
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Johnny Bear said:

80sBEAR said:

Fun fact. Baylor paid Pepper Hamilton $5 million+ dollars for them to give our football program the death penalty. Has there ever been a board of regents at any school anywhere on ANY level that has been more incompetent? And none of them have resigned. Not one.
There were multiple ways to address/correct whatever issues were there that wouldn't have involved unnecessarily destroying the football program through paying big bucks to a law firm to essentially build a case against yourself. I will never understand what the thinking was there.
It frankly disappoints me that some of the Baylor University leadership really tried to tie in Christianity to this fiasco. That is a downright bad move that I would expect from slitthery televangelists. I would argue that this Baylor University Christian posture got us into this whole mess. Now, who wants to saddle up and be a Christian?
boognish_bear
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Penders out there still stumping for CAB

RegentCoverup
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Malbec said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So you are saying Lebby, Kaz and Shillinglaw ignored these ? Again, not a shred of proof that happened. Not one single piece.
No, he's saying they didn't ignore them. He's saying they told Briles about them, then they all conspired to not report them and/or pressure the "victim" into not reporting and/or whatever way you cover up a rape. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else. Even though he says, "Baylor never said he covered up rape," and that Baylor didn't create the narrative that caused Briles' pariah status in college football, he believes the narrative.

Baylor didn't say it, Baylor didn't have an obligation to refute it, but it's true nonetheless, so anything else is pointless.
Hollow.

That you're the only attorney on this site still supporting Briles speaks volumes.
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Johnny Bear said:

80sBEAR said:

RFun fact. Baylor paid Pepper Hamilton $5 million+ dollars for them to give our football program the death penalty. Has there ever been a board of regents at any school anywhere on ANY level that has been more incompetent? And none of them have resigned. Not one.
There were multiple ways to address/correct whatever issues were there that wouldn't have involved unnecessarily destroying the football program through paying big bucks to a law firm to essentially build a case against yourself. I will never understand what the thinking was there.
You're thinking of management and leadership.

And fyi, those are the same reasons why we should be deeply skeptical of the new regime in place.
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TellMeYouLoveMe said:

Malbec said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So you are saying Lebby, Kaz and Shillinglaw ignored these ? Again, not a shred of proof that happened. Not one single piece.
No, he's saying they didn't ignore them. He's saying they told Briles about them, then they all conspired to not report them and/or pressure the "victim" into not reporting and/or whatever way you cover up a rape. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else. Even though he says, "Baylor never said he covered up rape," and that Baylor didn't create the narrative that caused Briles' pariah status in college football, he believes the narrative.

Baylor didn't say it, Baylor didn't have an obligation to refute it, but it's true nonetheless, so anything else is pointless.
Hollow.

That you're the only attorney on this site still supporting Briles speaks volumes.


I am an attorney and support CAB when I feel he is unfairly attacked and blamed for everything.
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I'm surprised Bob Mueller hasn't subpoenaed Art Briles in relation to his Russian Collusion investigation ...
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Eball said:

TellMeYouLoveMe said:

Malbec said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Keyser Soze said:

Robemcdo said:

Private Pyle said:

MilliVanilli said:

BUGWBBear said:

Christopher Holmes should be beaten til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death...left alone....beaten again til he begs for death.....left alone...


Rinse and repeat.

Meanwhile, the BOI should be shot by firing squad and Art begged to come back.
Yes, murder ought to undo all the sexual abuse that was left unchecked.
Can you list all these sexual abuses that have been proven? Which one was Briles fault?


0/0/0 . Hard to blame Art for assaults that didn't happen . Also hard to blame Art for not dealing with allegations made to him that didn't actually happen .

Minor details in the grand scheme of things .
NO ONE BLAMES ART FOR ASSAULTS !!!!!

Not reporting alleged assaults is the issue. Clue in !




My sources say no one reported assaults to him
So does he

I believe him
Why dont you ? Seriously why don't you ??
No victim reported assaults to him.

He insulated himself with Libby, Kaz, Shiillinglaw and who knows how many others. Like a mob boss. Now ask the question did he know of assaults and know some of them did not get reported? Yes and Yes.

Are your sources the same ones that think the serial rapist in jail is an innocent lamb?


So you are saying Lebby, Kaz and Shillinglaw ignored these ? Again, not a shred of proof that happened. Not one single piece.
No, he's saying they didn't ignore them. He's saying they told Briles about them, then they all conspired to not report them and/or pressure the "victim" into not reporting and/or whatever way you cover up a rape. Don't be fooled into thinking anything else. Even though he says, "Baylor never said he covered up rape," and that Baylor didn't create the narrative that caused Briles' pariah status in college football, he believes the narrative.

Baylor didn't say it, Baylor didn't have an obligation to refute it, but it's true nonetheless, so anything else is pointless.
Hollow.

That you're the only attorney on this site still supporting Briles speaks volumes.


I am an attorney and support CAB when I feel he is unfairly attacked and blamed for everything.
Ditto. TellMe lies. No credibility at all.
Malbec
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