boognish_bear said:

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boognish_bear said:

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Elijah was briefly on staff here with Rhule wasn't he?

Texas A&M officials have already held their meeting with Jimbo Fisher and fired him, according to sources.

Per a report from ESPN, associate head coach Elijah Robinson will take over as interim head coach effective immediately. https://t.co/jgdrRqVrkq

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) November 12, 2023

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Yep...he was

In his press conference earlier today, Nebraska head coach Matt Rhule spoke about @CoachE_TAMU being named as Texas A&M's interim head coach. Robinson worked under Rhule at Temple (2014-16) and Baylor (2017).

"I was fired up. He is like my blood. I love Elijah." pic.twitter.com/dcM842NF6W

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) November 13, 2023

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Rhule already looking! He will be out of Nebraska in one year! What a guy...

Novesrad to be an aggie?

Lololol

I like this idea
I think they need to go with this
I mean what could go wrong?

Here me out: Texas A&M head coach Johnny Manzielhttps://t.co/UOzKVmawQl

— Max Rego (@maxrego_) November 14, 2023

gobears20 said:

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I like this idea
I think they need to go with this
I mean what could go wrong?

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No, Dave Aranda is their guy. They need Dave. Please, take Dave

Rhule and his family were very happy in Waco

'My family's very happy at Duke.'

Mike Elko on Texas A&M's coaching vacancy: https://t.co/vgFJ32a1dG pic.twitter.com/lJdRVrUNDa

— 247Sports (@247Sports) November 14, 2023

boognish_bear said:

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Rhule and his family were very happy in Waco

'My family's very happy at Duke.'

Mike Elko on Texas A&M's coaching vacancy: https://t.co/vgFJ32a1dG pic.twitter.com/lJdRVrUNDa

— 247Sports (@247Sports) November 14, 2023

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Until they weren't and his dream of the Carolina hills was within reach. Then, the Heartland's cornfields, his lifelong dream to make corn haylage.

He has achieved that, but what he really pictured for his family was to live a stone's throw from the Bluebell Ice Cream plant AND coach College Football. A&M can give his family that...

There really aren't many good ways for coaches to answer these questions about openings. If they deny interest the fanbase usually won't put much stock in it anyway.

Colorado’s Deion Sanders asked about Texas A&M opening: "I want to win a game. You think I really do sit down & think about that kind of stuff? ... C'mon, I'm good. We've got to win. Let's focus on this week." Buffaloes must win final 2 games to earn a bowl berth

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 14, 2023

boognish_bear said:

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There really aren't many good ways for coaches to answer these questions about openings. If they deny interest the fanbase usually won't put much stock in it anyway.

Colorado’s Deion Sanders asked about Texas A&M opening: "I want to win a game. You think I really do sit down & think about that kind of stuff? ... C'mon, I'm good. We've got to win. Let's focus on this week." Buffaloes must win final 2 games to earn a bowl berth

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 14, 2023

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Sorry, don't see Deion fitting in College Station. Boulder a better fit.

FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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There really aren't many good ways for coaches to answer these questions about openings. If they deny interest the fanbase usually won't put much stock in it anyway.

Colorado’s Deion Sanders asked about Texas A&M opening: "I want to win a game. You think I really do sit down & think about that kind of stuff? ... C'mon, I'm good. We've got to win. Let's focus on this week." Buffaloes must win final 2 games to earn a bowl berth

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 14, 2023

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Sorry, don't see Deion fitting in College Station. Boulder a better fit.

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Agree. He can do much better than the cult down in College Station.

boognish_bear said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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boognish_bear said:

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There really aren't many good ways for coaches to answer these questions about openings. If they deny interest the fanbase usually won't put much stock in it anyway.

Colorado’s Deion Sanders asked about Texas A&M opening: "I want to win a game. You think I really do sit down & think about that kind of stuff? ... C'mon, I'm good. We've got to win. Let's focus on this week." Buffaloes must win final 2 games to earn a bowl berth

— Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) November 14, 2023

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Sorry, don't see Deion fitting in College Station. Boulder a better fit.

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Agree. He can do much better than the cult down in College Station.

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And his sons are out of instant transfers. They will all be at Colorado next year.

boykin_spaniel said:

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The SEC has been around forever. They've been winning championships since inception. Mid tier teams like South Carolina sell out their stadiums nearly every week despite historical mediocrity. Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina lack NFL teams, heck they lack any pro teams. Tennessee and North Florida just got pro teams (historically speaking). While the "it just means more" slogan is corny at best, historically it has meant more. Some people on here judge t-shirt fans but these state universities have historically been the "pro" teams for locals. They became imbedded within their states with no Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Jets, Giants, Bears, etc to compete with.

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The SEC didn't win national championships at a rate higher than other conferences until after the BCS started. Then after the BCS started (which was started by he SEC) , their win rate ballooned. They signed a huge contract with ESPN/Disney, they play and beat more cupcakes than anyone else, their bowl games are almost always near their fanbases. We are told that the invitationals are playoffs and oh by the way, the SEC should always be considered to have at least 2 teams in it. It's a system that is not doing anyone favors other than the SEC.


This article is quite old - but it is a very good one and worth a read if anyone has 5 minutes to spare.

https://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

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boykin_spaniel said:

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The SEC has been around forever. They've been winning championships since inception. Mid tier teams like South Carolina sell out their stadiums nearly every week despite historical mediocrity. Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina lack NFL teams, heck they lack any pro teams. Tennessee and North Florida just got pro teams (historically speaking). While the "it just means more" slogan is corny at best, historically it has meant more. Some people on here judge t-shirt fans but these state universities have historically been the "pro" teams for locals. They became imbedded within their states with no Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Jets, Giants, Bears, etc to compete with.

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The SEC didn't win national championships at a rate higher than other conferences until after the BCS started. Then after the BCS started (which was started by he SEC) , their win rate ballooned. They signed a huge contract with ESPN/Disney, they play and beat more cupcakes than anyone else, their bowl games are almost always near their fanbases. We are told that the invitationals are playoffs and oh by the way, the SEC should always be considered to have at least 2 teams in it. It's a system that is not doing anyone favors other than the SEC.


This article is quite old - but it is a very good one and worth a read if anyone has 5 minutes to spare.

https://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

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SEC got better than everyone else when the Bowl System went away. When Strength of Schedule and formulas were added, it skewed toward SEC. Bama was a train wreck before that system, hell they were no different than anyone else. Than the online recruiting, BCS and a sudden lack of NCAA enforcement shot them to top. SEC is a case study in brand development and rigging the system to achieve it.

Without question

I don't like the 4 team playoff. My point stands that the SEC is smart. People can complain all day but their branding has been a success. We should learn from it. I'd say we have in basketball but need to do more in football.

To anyone who hasn't I recommend attending some games. McLane is beautiful and very loud and fun when we are winning but Neyland Stadium has 100,000 fans in it when Tennessee is 7-5. And they sing Rocky Top all game long until they have no voice. Our fans politely clap and seem annoyed when if people stand up and yell at the top of their lungs.

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Our fans politely clap and seem annoyed when if people stand up and yell at the top of their lungs.

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From what I've read on other threads, this is being enforced as policy now at basketball games. Clap politely, sit down, or else.

I guess we got too "rowdy" as Baylor Nation. Looks like "polite" Baylor Family is here to stay.

Russell Gym said:

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Without question

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The SEC can thank 3 people...

1 - Disney/ESPN
2 - Paul Finebaum
3 - Saban's Bag Man...

Once Bama started rolling it was over.

From Billy on TexAgs radio today:
-Lanning not going to happen
-Schumann likely not a candidate
-Lane is not a candidate (Lane wants job)
-Expects a coach will be hired by 2 weeks from today (if true, that eliminates DeBoer)

So that leaves you with Elko, Traylor, Leipold, etc

— MarcAg (@MarcAg_) November 15, 2023

Hopefully that is not true because if so I'm going to be getting ejected from some games…

Does Aggy deserve a Blake Eddy for having to pay out $76 million to Jimbo?

You dont say

Deion Sanders says other schools are telling recruits he won't be at Colorado in 2024 amid Texas A&M rumors
 https://t.co/8KcgjnyHml

— Barrett Sallee 🇺🇸 (@BarrettSallee) November 15, 2023

FLBear5630 said:

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montypython said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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The SEC has been around forever. They've been winning championships since inception. Mid tier teams like South Carolina sell out their stadiums nearly every week despite historical mediocrity. Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina lack NFL teams, heck they lack any pro teams. Tennessee and North Florida just got pro teams (historically speaking). While the "it just means more" slogan is corny at best, historically it has meant more. Some people on here judge t-shirt fans but these state universities have historically been the "pro" teams for locals. They became imbedded within their states with no Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Jets, Giants, Bears, etc to compete with.

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The SEC didn't win national championships at a rate higher than other conferences until after the BCS started. Then after the BCS started (which was started by he SEC) , their win rate ballooned. They signed a huge contract with ESPN/Disney, they play and beat more cupcakes than anyone else, their bowl games are almost always near their fanbases. We are told that the invitationals are playoffs and oh by the way, the SEC should always be considered to have at least 2 teams in it. It's a system that is not doing anyone favors other than the SEC.


This article is quite old - but it is a very good one and worth a read if anyone has 5 minutes to spare.

https://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

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SEC got better than everyone else when the Bowl System went away. When Strength of Schedule and formulas were added, it skewed toward SEC. Bama was a train wreck before that system, hell they were no different than anyone else. Than the online recruiting, BCS and a sudden lack of NCAA enforcement shot them to top. SEC is a case study in brand development and rigging the system to achieve it.

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I agree. I was covering a lot of years in my post and didn't detail it as much as I should have. The sec didn't really separate from everyone else until about 2016?

I feel quite strongly that the schedule disparities is what has benefited the sec the most. Everyone else plays 9 conference games now. That tacks on a lot more losses for the conference as a whole. We started playing 9 conference games in 2011. Not only that but split divisions means you get to skip some of the tougher opponents each year.

The best way to illustrate my point is this: In 2013 we lost to ok-lite. If we had 8 conference games, we may have not even played them that year. Instead, we would have played a sam houston st type school in the early part of the year and demolished them. Meaning, we would have been undefeated that season and gone to the BCS title game.

Same thing applies to 2014. What if we had 8 conference games and didn't play WVU that year? We would have been undefeated and gone to the 4 team invitationals that year.

All it takes is that 1 extra conference game to ruin a championship invite.

I realize that may sound like a lot of what ifs, but I don't feel like I am making up stuff here. We don't know what would have happened if we got to the BCS title game in 2013, or the 'playoffs' in 2014, but I think those are game changing scenarios. If we win even 1 of those it puts the Big 12 on a much better path (i.e. respect etc).

montypython said:

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FLBear5630 said:

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montypython said:

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boykin_spaniel said:

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The SEC has been around forever. They've been winning championships since inception. Mid tier teams like South Carolina sell out their stadiums nearly every week despite historical mediocrity. Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina lack NFL teams, heck they lack any pro teams. Tennessee and North Florida just got pro teams (historically speaking). While the "it just means more" slogan is corny at best, historically it has meant more. Some people on here judge t-shirt fans but these state universities have historically been the "pro" teams for locals. They became imbedded within their states with no Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Jets, Giants, Bears, etc to compete with.

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The SEC didn't win national championships at a rate higher than other conferences until after the BCS started. Then after the BCS started (which was started by he SEC) , their win rate ballooned. They signed a huge contract with ESPN/Disney, they play and beat more cupcakes than anyone else, their bowl games are almost always near their fanbases. We are told that the invitationals are playoffs and oh by the way, the SEC should always be considered to have at least 2 teams in it. It's a system that is not doing anyone favors other than the SEC.


This article is quite old - but it is a very good one and worth a read if anyone has 5 minutes to spare.

https://www.thepostgame.com/commentary/201208/better-without-em-northern-manifesto-southern-secession-chuck-thompson-sec-bcs

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SEC got better than everyone else when the Bowl System went away. When Strength of Schedule and formulas were added, it skewed toward SEC. Bama was a train wreck before that system, hell they were no different than anyone else. Than the online recruiting, BCS and a sudden lack of NCAA enforcement shot them to top. SEC is a case study in brand development and rigging the system to achieve it.

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I agree. I was covering a lot of years in my post and didn't detail it as much as I should have. The sec didn't really separate from everyone else until about 2016?

I feel quite strongly that the schedule disparities is what has benefited the sec the most. Everyone else plays 9 conference games now. That tacks on a lot more losses for the conference as a whole. We started playing 9 conference games in 2011. Not only that but split divisions means you get to skip some of the tougher opponents each year.

The best way to illustrate my point is this: In 2013 we lost to ok-lite. If we had 8 conference games, we may have not even played them that year. Instead, we would have played a sam houston st type school in the early part of the year and demolished them. Meaning, we would have been undefeated that season and gone to the BCS title game.

Same thing applies to 2014. What if we had 8 conference games and didn't play WVU that year? We would have been undefeated and gone to the 4 team invitationals that year.

All it takes is that 1 extra conference game to ruin a championship invite.

I realize that may sound like a lot of what ifs, but I don't feel like I am making up stuff here. We don't know what would have happened if we got to the BCS title game in 2013, or the 'playoffs' in 2014, but I think those are game changing scenarios. If we win even 1 of those it puts the Big 12 on a much better path (i.e. respect etc).

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The guy that doesn't get enough credit was Saban's bag man.... : )

SOURCES: @TedLasso is interested in taking the A&M job. Reminder he left college football to pursue a career in the premier league but has since been taking a break for the past 6 months. pic.twitter.com/e6nZUR1vtm

— Nick Hampshire (@nhampshire) November 16, 2023

Source: UTSA's Jeff Traylor interviews for Texas A&M's head coaching job https://t.co/JCAApu1Y2q via @statesman

— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) November 17, 2023

Taking him off my wish list. Next!

boognish_bear said:

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Source: UTSA's Jeff Traylor interviews for Texas A&M's head coaching job https://t.co/JCAApu1Y2q via @statesman

— Kirk Bohls (@kbohls) November 17, 2023

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If the aggies gave away 75 million dollars just for the privilege to hire the UTSA coach; the A$M athletic director should be strapped to the top of their next bonfire .

We ranked fictional head coaches based on how good a candidate they’d be for the Texas A&M job. This is important. https://t.co/I5spvY91Sc

— Good Bull Hunting (@GBHunting) November 17, 2023

The Addy stop doing bonfires many years ago, at least officially. I do not know if they still have the unofficial bonfires.

During his press conference today, Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell talked about the Texas A&M opening.

"I love my school. That is my alma mater. I want to do anything I can to help them but coach for them, and I will do that." pic.twitter.com/J8NAoJX2gp

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) November 17, 2023

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The Addy stop doing bonfires many years ago, at least officially. I do not know if they still have the unofficial bonfires.

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I know why Aggy stopped their bonfires. Baylor used to have modest bonfires on Fountain Mall. Anyone know when and why those stopped?

boognish_bear said:

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During his press conference today, Detroit Lions head coach Dan Campbell talked about the Texas A&M opening.

"I love my school. That is my alma mater. I want to do anything I can to help them but coach for them, and I will do that." pic.twitter.com/J8NAoJX2gp

— Carter Karels (@CarterKarels) November 17, 2023

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I don't blame him for talking that position.

Russell Gym said:

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historian said:

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The Addy stop doing bonfires many years ago, at least officially. I do not know if they still have the unofficial bonfires.

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I know why Aggy stopped their bonfires. Baylor used to have modest bonfires on Fountain Mall. Anyone know when and why those stopped?

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Wasn't it because of the remodeling they did of that area of campus?

Russell Gym said:

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historian said:

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The Addy stop doing bonfires many years ago, at least officially. I do not know if they still have the unofficial bonfires.

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I know why Aggy stopped their bonfires. Baylor used to have modest bonfires on Fountain Mall. Anyone know when and why those stopped?

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Yeah. Everyone goes to Burning Man instead

Crazier things have happened in this sport. pic.twitter.com/jl9oSshFbh

— RedditCFB (@RedditCFB) November 19, 2023

Russell Gym said:

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historian said:

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The Addy stop doing bonfires many years ago, at least officially. I do not know if they still have the unofficial bonfires.

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I know why Aggy stopped their bonfires. Baylor used to have modest bonfires on Fountain Mall. Anyone know when and why those stopped?

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They lowered the Engineering Department Standards... Not sure they can build a safe one anymore.