Jimbo gone!

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DanaDane
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ScottS
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Man Jimbo is set for life
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DanaDane said:

Your numbers don't include the lump sum of almost $20 million he's owed within the next 60 days.

The deal is $19.3 million in next 60 days, then $7.2 million payments annually through 2031.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. This is clearly the greatest buyout of a Coach on the College level. I can't think of anything comparable.
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Mack comes a close second with the great work on Aranda's extension.
“Life is short, eat desert first!”
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This is what universities who want winning football teams do. Unlike most this is a smart Aggie move.
ScottS
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Think he keeps that plaque?
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Working on his Cormac McCarthy style
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oorahpa said:

This is what universities who want winning football teams do
overpay for the wrong coach?
historian
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boognish_bear said:



I'm not sure if it really matters that much. They will still wallow in mediocrity for the next few years. That's most of the SEC for the past decade. I see no reason it will change any time soon. It's always Georgia & Alabama most years & the others are there just to make them look good with wins over "ranked" teams.

The ESPN Blue Blood Invitational (aka playoffs) won't change much either. Unfortunately, even if they really do expand it will be in such a way as to enhance the blue bloods.

Yea, I'm cynical about it all. At least March Madness is real.
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historian said:

boognish_bear said:



I'm not sure if it really matters that much. They will still wallow in mediocrity for the next few years. That's most of the SEC for the past decade. I see no reason it will change any time soon. It's always Georgia & Alabama most years & the others are there just to make them look good with wins over "ranked" teams.

The ESPN Blue Blood Invitational (aka playoffs) won't change much either. Unfortunately, even if they really do expand it will be in such a way as to enhance the blue bloods.

Yea, I'm cynical about it all. At least March Madness is real.
I could rant about this for days. There is a lot to be cynical about.
People love champions, but we also want fairness (or, at least the appearance of it) and access.

The BCS wasn't fair and neither are the invitationals - which ironically are called playoffs; they are not playoffs.

The sec touted the BS that they were the best and did it for years. Once Saban got rolling there at Alabama - it started to become the truth. Now you can't really dispute it. I'm convinced the success the sec has seen the past 15 years is rooted in 5 things:
1. the uneven, unbalanced schedule that is played. They play more cupcakes than anyone and have 8 conference games, while everyone else plays 9. They also have their november cupcake /bye week. This is a huge advantage for the sec. It gives them the appearance of being better, because they have more wins. Who those wins are against is irrelevant. More wins = more ranked teams = more bowl invites = more money = better recruiting.
2. Saban being a phenomenal coach.
3. Paying players - many of their programs had been cheating for a long time. Now, it is no longer cheating.
4. Control the BCS / CFP and control bowl sites. The old sec commissioner spearheaded the BCS. USC should have been in the title game 3 or 4 times in a 5 year stretch, but was squeezed out. Virtually every bowl game an sec team plays, is near its fan base. Meaning everyone has to fly to them.
5. Concerted effort to control the narrative. Say you are the best, play an easier schedule but claim it is the toughest and slowly build up your brand. At this point the brand is built and the narrative has become reality.

At this point you cannot really knock them off the perch because NIL is rampant and uncontrolled and the TV contracts have ballooned to insane amounts. Plus, that 8 game conference schedule.
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So Everybody Cheats.

Like they say in this conference, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.
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ScottS said:

gobears20 said:

Jimbo had a good run



Whoever created the Jimbo national title plaque has to be the biggest dork alive.


3rd biggest.

2nd biggest dork was the A$M athletic director who hired Jimbo to begin with.

Biggest dork alive is the current A$M athletic director who gave Jimbo that absurd contract extension only a couple of years ago. Then recommended Jimbo's termination last week after a 3 point loss to Mississippi in Oxford.


AD won't last another 18 months.
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hodedofome said:

Wacoraisedbear said:

IowaBear said:

I get that, but ultimately that's on Mack's shoulders…. He gave Dave this ridiculous contract after winning with Rhules players. And it becomes more and more clear daily that the 21 team won in spite of Dave. Not because of Dave. Obviously hindsight is 20/20


I know it's been said before but man Mack must've felt like a genius giving aranda that extension he thought he found the next teaff he thought he could go out of state again and find a wildcard home run hire fast forward to today it's all blown up in his face it's just funny how fast things change the media and Baylor family was oh so happy with aranda and Bernstein bear quotes old hat new hat bs they thought they finally found the perfect counterpart to drew clean cut quiet and humble


Can I interest you in a period or two.


I'm not in school anymore y'all can read
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Johnny Bear
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Will be interesting to see how insane the contract is to turn coach next into a future 8-4 coach (at best).
historian
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montypython said:

historian said:

boognish_bear said:



I'm not sure if it really matters that much. They will still wallow in mediocrity for the next few years. That's most of the SEC for the past decade. I see no reason it will change any time soon. It's always Georgia & Alabama most years & the others are there just to make them look good with wins over "ranked" teams.

The ESPN Blue Blood Invitational (aka playoffs) won't change much either. Unfortunately, even if they really do expand it will be in such a way as to enhance the blue bloods.

Yea, I'm cynical about it all. At least March Madness is real.
I could rant about this for days. There is a lot to be cynical about.
People love champions, but we also want fairness (or, at least the appearance of it) and access.

The BCS wasn't fair and neither are the invitationals - which ironically are called playoffs; they are not playoffs.

The sec touted the BS that they were the best and did it for years. Once Saban got rolling there at Alabama - it started to become the truth. Now you can't really dispute it. I'm convinced the success the sec has seen the past 15 years is rooted in 5 things:
1. the uneven, unbalanced schedule that is played. They play more cupcakes than anyone and have 8 conference games, while everyone else plays 9. They also have their november cupcake /bye week. This is a huge advantage for the sec. It gives them the appearance of being better, because they have more wins. Who those wins are against is irrelevant. More wins = more ranked teams = more bowl invites = more money = better recruiting.
2. Saban being a phenomenal coach.
3. Paying players - many of their programs had been cheating for a long time. Now, it is no longer cheating.
4. Control the BCS / CFP and control bowl sites. The old sec commissioner spearheaded the BCS. USC should have been in the title game 3 or 4 times in a 5 year stretch, but was squeezed out. Virtually every bowl game an sec team plays, is near its fan base. Meaning everyone has to fly to them.
5. Concerted effort to control the narrative. Say you are the best, play an easier schedule but claim it is the toughest and slowly build up your brand. At this point the brand is built and the narrative has become reality.

At this point you cannot really knock them off the perch because NIL is rampant and uncontrolled and the TV contracts have ballooned to insane amounts. Plus, that 8 game conference schedule.

If I could I would give this more stars.
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The SEC has been around forever. They've been winning championships since inception. Mid tier teams like South Carolina sell out their stadiums nearly every week despite historical mediocrity. Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, and South Carolina lack NFL teams, heck they lack any pro teams. Tennessee and North Florida just got pro teams (historically speaking). While the "it just means more" slogan is corny at best, historically it has meant more. Some people on here judge t-shirt fans but these state universities have historically been the "pro" teams for locals. They became imbedded within their states with no Dallas Cowboys, Packers, Jets, Giants, Bears, etc to compete with.

They do schedule fluff games but so does the Big10. If you were the SEC commish you wouldn't recommend changing a working wheel. If it ain't broke don't fix it. To get the respect you've got to beat them. We have a chance in a couple years with Auburn. Kansas St had a shot with Mizzou and lost.

Big12 fans tend to struggle cheering for their conference mates against other teams (changed a bit when horn and wagon said they were bouncing) but our conference won't get respect until it wins consistently against the SEC and Big10. TCU beat Michigan but got laughed out of the stadium by UGA. While I'm sure some people on here highly enjoyed it, it was a bad look for the conference. It made the entire conference look unready for primetime.

Throw in the fact UGA, Bama, LSU, Ohio St, Michigan, and Clemson over the past decade have recruited in the trenches above everyone else by a mile and you get those teams dominating on average. TCU surprised Michigan with speed and scheme (and signals) but they couldn't do jack**** against that UGA front 7 or UGA o-line. Same for OU vs 2019 LSU and 2019 Baylor vs UGA.

We're the best basketball conference because we began taking it to the ACC and Big10 and winning titles.
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montypython said:

historian said:

boognish_bear said:



I'm not sure if it really matters that much. They will still wallow in mediocrity for the next few years. That's most of the SEC for the past decade. I see no reason it will change any time soon. It's always Georgia & Alabama most years & the others are there just to make them look good with wins over "ranked" teams.

The ESPN Blue Blood Invitational (aka playoffs) won't change much either. Unfortunately, even if they really do expand it will be in such a way as to enhance the blue bloods.

Yea, I'm cynical about it all. At least March Madness is real.
I could rant about this for days. There is a lot to be cynical about.
People love champions, but we also want fairness (or, at least the appearance of it) and access.

The BCS wasn't fair and neither are the invitationals - which ironically are called playoffs; they are not playoffs.

The sec touted the BS that they were the best and did it for years. Once Saban got rolling there at Alabama - it started to become the truth. Now you can't really dispute it. I'm convinced the success the sec has seen the past 15 years is rooted in 5 things:
1. the uneven, unbalanced schedule that is played. They play more cupcakes than anyone and have 8 conference games, while everyone else plays 9. They also have their november cupcake /bye week. This is a huge advantage for the sec. It gives them the appearance of being better, because they have more wins. Who those wins are against is irrelevant. More wins = more ranked teams = more bowl invites = more money = better recruiting.
2. Saban being a phenomenal coach.
3. Paying players - many of their programs had been cheating for a long time. Now, it is no longer cheating.
4. Control the BCS / CFP and control bowl sites. The old sec commissioner spearheaded the BCS. USC should have been in the title game 3 or 4 times in a 5 year stretch, but was squeezed out. Virtually every bowl game an sec team plays, is near its fan base. Meaning everyone has to fly to them.
5. Concerted effort to control the narrative. Say you are the best, play an easier schedule but claim it is the toughest and slowly build up your brand. At this point the brand is built and the narrative has become reality.

At this point you cannot really knock them off the perch because NIL is rampant and uncontrolled and the TV contracts have ballooned to insane amounts. Plus, that 8 game conference schedule.


This 100% only thing I would add is about the players being played I don't think it was just an SEC problem I think a lot of players going to blue bloods where getting paid. one example was Cee Dee lamb on draft day had an easily 100k chain on a diamond studded watch etc unless his family was loaded before or maybe signed endorsements before being drafted but this is just one example I can think of off the top of my head
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whitetrash said:

boognish_bear said:




Jimbo Bonilla

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Don't know anything about Greg Swaim or the "Swaim Show"@GSwaim, assuming this is a Twitter account, but he is stating; "getting flooded w/texts & emails from some (very tied aggy sources) that Oregon's Lanning will be the next Sheep Shepherd".

I don't know/trust anything about Twitter… whether this is BS or typical aggy lying ego. I don't know whether to laugh or what.
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BBWCBear said:

Don't know anything about Greg Swaim or the "Swaim Show"@GSwaim, assuming this is a Twitter account, but he is stating; "getting flooded w/texts & emails from some (very tied aggy sources) that Oregon's Lanning will be the next Sheep Shepherd".

I don't know/trust anything about Twitter… whether this is BS or typical aggy lying ego. I don't know whether to laugh or what.
Would be surprising, and interesting if it happened.

Oregon is the best team that Nike can buy. And he's at the helm. And will soon be moving into the Big Ten.
Why leave that?

Oregon has indeed become a brand. And it's a brand that is spelled N...I...K...E.

Prior to Chip Kelly moving into Eugene, Oregon was largely a nobody. Their record against SC wasn't much more impressive than anyone else's in the PAC.

What happened up there was genius.

Billboards in Times Square. Top of the line facilities built. Cute costume changes for every game. All compliments of Nike. This big green O, which is everywhere, the "look at us" phenom officially sets in, and one of the most annoying bandwagon fan bases out there emerges.

All genius. And especially effective as it aligned with USC's fall from the higher realms of college football.

Still, I guess an SEC coaching position isn't anything to sneeze at for some. So will be interesting.
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BBWCBear said:

Don't know anything about Greg Swaim or the "Swaim Show"@GSwaim, assuming this is a Twitter account, but he is stating; "getting flooded w/texts & emails from some (very tied aggy sources) that Oregon's Lanning will be the next Sheep Shepherd".

I don't know/trust anything about Twitter… whether this is BS or typical aggy lying ego. I don't know whether to laugh or what.


Swaim is a hack that throws a ton of **** against the wall to see what sticks.

He could be right. But I would put no stock in it
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Yeah I have not looked at his page in several months. I actually stopped even before the actual realignment of late July/early August of 23. But that is true. He is all over the place and contradicts himself hours later. Until this am and this thread. I noticed he also said a couple of weeks ago the XII is taking Pitt,VT, Louisville, NcST, WSU and OrSt after the 25-26 school year.

Just pure hypo. If Lanning goes to A&M then Traylor isn't getting Stein back if he were to end up at Baylor. Stein would be headed to A&M I'm almost certain. (I doubt he would be promoted to Oregon HC at this point but they promoted Kelly similarly about 15 years ago).
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TrojanMoondoggie said:

BBWCBear said:

Don't know anything about Greg Swaim or the "Swaim Show"@GSwaim, assuming this is a Twitter account, but he is stating; "getting flooded w/texts & emails from some (very tied aggy sources) that Oregon's Lanning will be the next Sheep Shepherd".

I don't know/trust anything about Twitter… whether this is BS or typical aggy lying ego. I don't know whether to laugh or what.
Would be surprising, and interesting if it happened.

Oregon is the best team that Nike can buy. And he's at the helm. And will soon be moving into the Big Ten.
Why leave that?

Oregon has indeed become a brand. And it's a brand that is spelled N...I...K...E.

Prior to Chip Kelly moving into Eugene, Oregon was largely a nobody. Their record against SC wasn't much more impressive than anyone else's in the PAC.

What happened up there was genius.

Billboards in Times Square. Top of the line facilities built. Cute costume changes for every game. All compliments of Nike. This big green O, which is everywhere, the "look at us" phenom officially sets in, and one of the most annoying bandwagon fan bases out there emerges.

All genius. And especially effective as it aligned with USC's fall from the higher realms of college football.

Still, I guess an SEC coaching position isn't anything to sneeze at for some. So will be interesting.
I would say it started before Chip Kelly with Mike Bellotti.
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So what is this now the 3rd or 4th head coach at ATM fired WITH a winning record????

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Wish our fans had that high of expectations...
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boognish_bear said:


This is how programs that want to win and be in relevant think.

Meanwhile in Waco... CDA is out of here, you just wait on December 1, 2028 he is gone...
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boognish_bear said:

Elijah was briefly on staff here with Rhule wasn't he?




Yep...he was

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