Maybe a&m hires art briles

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In reply to Married A Horn • 10:37a, 11/14/23
Married A Horn said:
Narcissism is a selfcentered personality style characterized as having an excessive preoccupation with oneself and one's own needs, often at the expense of others.


That fits this entire board!!!!
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In reply to TysonTCU • 10:57a, 11/14/23
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Thee University said:
Wangchung said:
I agree, we should rehire Briles.
I could support this rehire ONLY if you make the following happen:

1. Hire the best DC in the country for him
2. Make him devote at least 50% of practice time to the defense
3. Hire a competent and experienced Special Teams coach for him
4. Hire a Ray Donovan "fixer" to be deeply imbedded into the players, program and community
5. Hire mandatory image consultants for him, his coaches and the players
6. Negotiate NIL deals with Chip & Joanna
7. Hire psychiatrists to bring the 2,728 Day Club boys back to reality slowly and methodically

I knew you'd come around
Like a moth to a flame.
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11:11a, 11/14/23
not even the aggies are that dumb or desperate
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11:11a, 11/14/23
The statute of frauds has passed on ANY claims that people may have against Briles, so legally, there is nothing A&M should be afraid of. It makes total economic and legal sense at this point to hire Briles. They should do it.

As I've mentioned, I left my wife back in 2016 over a dispute about Briles and at first I was skeptical of whether I'd made the right decision. But as I read the 23rd Amendment and learned about the statute of frauds and how the time element associated with that works, I knew that eventually Briles would be vindicated.

HIRE BRILES AND LISTEN TO BETA TEARS
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In reply to Thee University • 6:35p, 11/14/23
Thee University said:
IowaBear said:
I played college ball. But that's irrelevant. But by all means keep living in your glory days Thee. Maybe we should start counting the number of days in a row you re live your glory from 4 decades ago? It's what you do best. Most will take 11-1 over this **** show. When did you win 11 games as a player at BU?
I went 12-2 my senior year. I was on a victorious team for 12 games.

10-1 in regular season. 2-1 in post season.

Cotton Bowl - lost 30-2
Hula Bowl - won 24-17
Japan Bowl - won 25-13
Funny, what I get from that is you got 2 nice trips. Congratulations, if you guys were better you may have gotten to Shreveport...
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In reply to IowaBear • 10:58p, 11/15/23
IowaBear said:
It's funny you reference those 3 as the "biggest games" the biggest games were for conference titles or ones that put us in position to win conference titles. This "Briles didn't win big games clan" is either dumb or refuses to admit the dude won plenty of big games while at BU
I don't expect much from the "strawman argument clan", so your response does not surprise me. I never said Briles never won big games. I said we lost some of the biggest ones and that is a fact.


The game in stoolwater was absolutely big, because if we win that game we go to the BCS Championship game. However, after getting thumped, we were out.

We ended up going to the Fiesta Bowl - our biggest bowl invite in decades and lost to a G5 team because of bad defense and special teams.

We went to the Cotton Bowl the next year - an even bigger stage than the Fiesta and lost due to bad defense and special teams.
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In reply to IowaBear • 1:47a, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
It's funny you reference those 3 as the "biggest games" the biggest games were for conference titles or ones that put us in position to win conference titles. This "Briles didn't win big games clan" is either dumb or refuses to admit the dude won plenty of big games while at BU


I mean Briles beat a top 10 opponent like 5 years in a row. At the time it was only us and Alabama
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In reply to Fre3dombear • 5:52a, 11/16/23
Fre3dombear said:
IowaBear said:
It's funny you reference those 3 as the "biggest games" the biggest games were for conference titles or ones that put us in position to win conference titles. This "Briles didn't win big games clan" is either dumb or refuses to admit the dude won plenty of big games while at BU


I mean Briles beat a top 10 opponent like 5 years in a row. At the time it was only us and Alabama


Dave beat Long John Silvers Jr. High.
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In reply to Thee University • 6:02a, 11/16/23
Thee University said:
... while those of us who actually played the game wanted Art to drop that left nad and win ALL of our games. We were never going to get there without a major recommitment to DEFENSE.


We just let K State hang 59 on us.
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In reply to Realitybites • 8:30a, 11/16/23
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Thee University said:
... while those of us who actually played the game wanted Art to drop that left nad and win ALL of our games. We were never going to get there without a major recommitment to DEFENSE.


We just let K State hang 59 on us.
Art let West Virginia hang 70 on us in 2012. 70. How does that happen? 10 TDs in one game?

Oklahoma St. clipped us with 59 in 2011. 55 in 2010. 49 in 2013. OSU loved playing Art & Phil!

UT drilled us with 56 in 2012.

A&M pummeled us with 55 in 2011. 42 in 2010.

TCU hammered home 49 on us in 2012.

Texas Tech got in 45 on us in 2010.

OU 44 in 2015. 42 in 2012.

West Virginia loved playing us too. 41 in 2014.

And those are just the losses. To win a few games by just a few points we had to score 66, 61, 50, 48 & 47.
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8:34a, 11/16/23
Thee,
Are you trying to win a Blake Eddy?
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In reply to Thee University • 8:40a, 11/16/23
We literally won several of those games you referenced…
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:42a, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
We literally won several of those games you referenced…
Wrong Poindexter. Do your homework before you continue to embarrass yourself.

How do you LITERALLY win a game????
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In reply to IowaBear • 8:43a, 11/16/23
All as he was still building the program with 2 and 3* kids...

Entire user base needs to put this clown on ignore.
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In reply to ScottS • 8:43a, 11/16/23
ScottS said:
Thee,
Are you trying to win a Blake Eddy?
Who or what is a Blake Eddy?

I just posted the truth. Does Blake post the truth?
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In reply to Married A Horn • 8:45a, 11/16/23
Married A Horn said:
All as he was still building the program with 2 and 3* kids...

Entire user base needs to put this clown on ignore.
Baylor has always relied heavily on 2 & 3 star players.
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In reply to Thee University • 9:09a, 11/16/23
Thee University said:
Married A Horn said:
All as he was still building the program with 2 and 3* kids...

Entire user base needs to put this clown on ignore.
Baylor has always relied heavily on 2 & 3 star players.

Their history shows that
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9:18a, 11/16/23
1980 Team is still the only Baylor football team to go undefeated in conference play.
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9:20a, 11/16/23
Before Briles, yes. Go look at his classes 2012+. 5 or so 4*s and a 5* mixed in once in awhile.

Before Art? A bunch of 2s and 3s and several 'Not Rated's'.
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9:33a, 11/16/23
And how in the world was Andrew Billings not a five star???
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In reply to baylor1984 • 10:08a, 11/16/23
baylor1984 said:
1980 Team is still the only Baylor football team to go undefeated in conference play.
The 2,729 Day Club does not want to acknowledge that fact. It hurts their ears for some reason.
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In reply to Reverend • 10:09a, 11/16/23
Reverend said:
It's nuts like you who have created and perpetuated the false narrative about Briles which absolutely destroyed the career of a good man. Yes. A good man.

Although you have convinced yourself you speak for the righteous majority, you are actually in a shameful small minority. But a sadly powerful one. The overall Baylor community, which probably has more information and knowledge about the man and the circumstances than anyone else (certainly even more than the powers that ruined him) supports him by a vast majority.

So go blow your bull**** at someone who might believe it.
Look, we all know Briles didn't hide rape - however, focusing solely on that means you cannot see the forest from the trees.

Briles would not have been scapegoated unless there was enough to pin on him - and there certainly was plenty to pin on him.. You cannot scapegoat a guy who runs a clean ship. You can scapegoat a guy who does not. Bries was incapable of providing leadership in areas that it mattered - discipline and accountability. Instead both him and Ian just tried to hide stuff and make it go away. Shoot, even a BOI member said that when they asked Briles what he would do to instill accountability and clean up things, he had no answer. That alone is all you need to know.

With everything going over a period of years, it wasn't that much of a stretch to lie and say he hid or didn't report sexual assault. He made himself an easy target and I feel that is why the BOI decided to throw him under the bus.

Even if we cannot agree that Briles was a poor leader in areas of discipline and accountability, there is a concrete truth that some people on this board still have not come to terms with: Briles isn't coming back and no one outside of some Baylor fans thinks he is innocent.
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In reply to Krieg • 10:24a, 11/16/23
Krieg said:
bear2be2 said:
Fre3dombear said:
Does anyone really believe baylor would rehire Art? Of course not

It's to repeatedly mock the baylor leadership that anyone says that for their epic failures while everyone on his staff is hired by every school that worked overtime to oust them and Art

#neverforget
So it's message board masturbation.


No, it's to remind everyone why we have a terrible football coach and program. It's our leadership that's at fault more than Aranda or anyone else. They're morons
No one that has watched the past season and a half needs to be reminded that we suck.

If the purpose of bringing up never never land threads about Briles coming back to save us is to show our leadership that they are dumb - that is a massive failure. There are much better ways to get something done - and posting on a fanboard isn't it.

No, posting on BF and on sicem about Briles the savior and martyr doesn't do anything but cause fights between Baylor fans that want to move on and those that want to live in the past.
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In reply to Thee University • 10:40a, 11/16/23
Thee University said:
baylor1984 said:
1980 Team is still the only Baylor football team to go undefeated in conference play.
The 2,729 Day Club does not want to acknowledge that fact. It hurts their ears for some reason.

Awesome
Who did they beat in their bowl game?
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10:46a, 11/16/23
"Briles would not have been scapegoated unless there was enough to pin on him - and there certainly was plenty to pin on him.."
Our vibrations were getting nasty. But why? I was puzzled, frustrated... Had we deteriorated to the level of dumb beasts?

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In reply to baylor1984 • 10:57a, 11/16/23
baylor1984 said:
1980 Team is still the only Baylor football team to go undefeated in conference play.
Cannot take that away from them.

I'm not a fan of comparing different eras - the SWC and Big 12 are completely different. The rules are different and the schedules are different.

The SWC teams only played 8 conference games. Big 12 started playing 9 in 2011.

That extra game could be the difference between an undefeated conference season and having a loss.
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In reply to IowaBear • 11:42a, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
Ahhh Blackie.. so friggin sensitive… not shocked. You've taken pot shot after pot shot at Briles forever now. The guy was a friggin treasure here. His results speak for themselves. I won't get into the off field issues as I have no idea what all truly happened there.
I believe one thing that cannot be denied regarding Briles by ALL, lovers, haters, indifferent, etc... the atmosphere, energy, excitement, euphoria, CONFIDENCE displayed inside the stadium on gameday HAS. NEVER. BEEN. MATCHED. before or after his tenure. THAT'S what I believe fans PINE for and miss.

Deep down inside everyone's mind we know that's gone and realistically struggle to ever return. Now with how college football is shaping up, TWO major conferences and everyone else, BU is definitely a second tier school and will always be. Then, we could hold our head up against anyone, we could compete, banter etc. SCOREBOARD!!!

It's over and it's hard to let go. The ****show we have now just turns the knife in our side.
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In reply to IowaBear • 12:08p, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
We literally won several of those games you referenced…
No. We lost all of them.

TBH, he left out quite a few of the ass beatings that we took from 2010-2015. I count 18 losses where the crap defense took a beating. 14 for bennett and 4 for norwood (2010 was norwood)

aTm 42 in 2010, 55 in 2011
MSU 42 in 2014
OKST 55 in 2010, 59 in 2011, 49 in 2013
OU 53 in 2010, 42 in 2012, 44 in 2015, 45 in 2015
TCU 45 in 2010, 49 in 2012
UCF 52 in 2013
TTU 45 in 2010, 49 in 2012
UT 56 in 2012
WVU 70 in 2012, 41 in 2014
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In reply to morethanhecouldbear • 12:24p, 11/16/23
Weird… during that "ass beating" stretch we had two 11 win seasons. Two 9 win seasons and an 8-5 campaign where we ended KSU title hopes. We also won 2 B12 titles during that stretch. The lengths people go in order to try an discredit the best stretch of BU football is strange. Perhaps you should direct your hatred towards our current product which is utter garbage
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In reply to IowaBear • 12:27p, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
Weird… during that "ass beating" stretch we had two 11 win seasons. Two 9 win seasons and an 8-5 campaign where we ended KSU title hopes. We also won 2 B12 titles during that stretch. The lengths people go in order to try an discredit the best stretch of BU football is strange. Perhaps you should direct your hatred towards our current product which is utter garbage


An era of wins, excitement, energy, and fun...and all I hear from them is, "remember that loss at okst?"

Can we get some debbie downer gifs in here?
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12:29p, 11/16/23
We went 57-19 from 10-15 yet we took all these so called ass kickings… people just stop. I get it, some hate Briles and Bennett. But it's clouding reality.
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In reply to IowaBear • 12:33p, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
We went 57-19 from 10-15 yet we took all these so called ass kickings… people just stop. I get it, sone hate Briles and Bennett. But it's clouding reality.
Briles had BU in the National Championship discussion, for an extended time. Since we have been hit and miss, more miss than hit.

Nobody is winning the National Championship at Baylor anytime soon. Let's get back into the National Championship discussion and then worry about blowing leads in the CFP or the Orange Bowl.

Right now, the best thing to say about Baylor Football is that we are consistent enough to take the Under and bet on our opponents giving points. Not a good place.
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In reply to IowaBear • 12:37p, 11/16/23
IowaBear said:
We literally won several of those games you referenced…
Let's stay on point here.

Your claim was BS and both Thee and I called you out on it. We lost all of those games Thee referenced. I knew there were a bunch more, so I looked them up and posted them.

If you dispute those scores and years, feel free to correct me on it.
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In reply to morethanhecouldbear • 12:40p, 11/16/23
I'll take the L there… but you're acting like we sucked that stretch. We didn't and I just proved that correct… if you want to ***** than by all means go ahead. But the 10-15 stretch was our best ever. ***** about the current state of BU football
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12:52p, 11/16/23
I continue to be amazed at the Forever Briles postings, but shouldn't be surprised. Hey, I love ME TV too. Great reruns. But does anyone really believe his style of play and the style that made him the coaching "legend" at Stephenville and Baylor would be successful today? I understand the need to retort with "he'll adjust to the modern game", but while some of his coaching tree are still in the game, none have been able to successfully re-create the Baylor offense and I'm not sure any have really tried. I'm not saying Lebby, Lil Briles, Montgomery haven't had success, but that success is not due to the wide open, up tempo, exciting brand of offense that made Briles a guru. Would Art have the same success as he did from 2010-2015? I have my doubts. One thing I don't doubt is that his CFB coaching days are over (right or wrong).
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