bear2be2 said:
Harrison Bergeron said:
TeamPlayer said:
Good post. This board views appreciation for Briles and Rhule as mutually exclusive. It's absurd.
Agreed. I do not get why there is some sort of Briles vs. Rhule tribalism.
Briles should be revered for where he took Baylor football to heights where we never thought possible.
Rhule came in at our lowest point and brought remarkable success.
Both should be celebrated for what they did for the university.
Yes, I wish Rhule was still coaching here, but it is not like he left Baylor for Texas or TCU.
My main issue with Briles is that his own lack of leadership and integrity ruined what was and should have remained a very good thing at Baylor.
He cut corners you can't cut, especially at a place like Baylor, that a) claims to hold a higher standard, and b) won't get the media indifference/protection that large state schools do.
And it wasn't something that happened to him. It was conscious decisions he made, as his illicit use of and incriminating conversations with a low-rent fixer would prove.
Art Briles was an offensive genius. He should have gone down as one of the great college football coaches of all time. Unfortunately, his own failures kept that from happening, and he took us down with him.
I have good memories from his time in Waco. But I don't have any real reverence for him for that reason.
I have a lot more respect for Rhule, who brought us a high-level of success without sacrificing what we claim to stand for as a university. Same for Aranda as well. He just hasn't won enough, unfortunately.
With all due respect, you clearly have no idea what you are talking about. This was an issue of Baylor's compliance department being ignorant of new executive orders that were issued in 2011 by President Obama that fundamentally changed the manner in which sexual assault cases are handled under Title IX.
In an effort to make it easier for a woman to successfully claim sexual assault and force legal recourse against a man, the rules were changed regarding how these cases were then processed. The process has been altered again since.
One of my contacts in the Texas Tech Athletic Department back in 2015 opined to me that he was glad Baylor got caught because if Baylor hadn't been caught, they would have because they also were not in full compliance with the new regulations at that time.
Another of my contacts, a major UT donor, stated (in a nutshell) that CAB was getting what he deserved - not for anything he did related to the scandal - but for turning down UT's offer to interview in 2013. He also attributed it to knowing that Baylor's compliance at the time was "completely inept".
So just understand that you are making judgments based on only what you have heard about the story. Much of what you have heard is not true, and that which is true has an underscoring of nefarious events and circumstances that got us to where we are today - and fundamentally changed the manner in which Baylor University, and really all universities, handled these compliance issues thereafter.
And, FWIW, Baylor conducted its own investigation that found no violations by CAB.
We're just a society that has a knee jerk reaction to the words "sexual assault" and so we like to jump to conclusions in nearly all those cases without rationally reviewing the situation. Politicians know this trend, and that is why they take advantage of it.
"Smarter than the Average Bear."
