FLBear5630 said:
Aberzombie1892 said:
FLBear5630 said:
Chuckroast said:
After 3 years, Aranda had 2 bowl appearances, one conference championship, and a sugar bowl victory and a #5 end of season ranking. The COVID year was the only non-bowl season, but a year like that shouldn't really be given much scrutiny anyway. That's a good start for a new head coach. It was the bad 4th season that has many giving up.
In year 5, we don't have a bad loss. A heartbreaking loss on the road to Colorado where we looked to be the better team is fresh on our minds. Aranda can't make the icing field goal or keep our RB from fumbling while crossing the goal line in OT. Without either, we're potentially 3-1 right now with a competitive team.
On the plus side, our recruiting has been improving and we seem to be in the NIL game now. I'm hoping this year's team is good enough to get into the bowl picture so that we don't lose all momentum.
I'm forever thankful to Aranda for the magical 2021 season which isn't too long ago and hope he can turn things around.
Exactly, His record does not warrant firing, especially at a place like Baylor. He finishes with a Bowl Game, he is ahead of the curve.
Some seem to believe BU is a destination Coaching spot. Rhule left as soon as he could and Briles had to bring in players no one else would touch. Our Athletic Program has some of the worst scandals in College History yet 2 bowl appearances, one conference championship, and a sugar bowl victory and a #5 end of season ranking in his first 5 years is not good enough. The guy has an unimpeachable integrity, which Baylor needs after Briles, Bliss, Starr and the whole cast of characters. And it is located in Waco, not exactly a garden spot on the coaching circuit. This is not a premier job and looking at the whole picture Aranda is not doing that bad. Who are you getting better that doesn't leave BU in the same boat 3 years later if they win?
Who has the realism and expectations of a pre-teen girl?
The Baylor job is a nuanced situation. On one hand, Baylor has only had one coach in its history that has had relatively sustained success, so it's difficult to assess what any other coach would do if such coach could sustain similar success. On the other hand, the Big 12 isn't what it was prior to all of the changes (transfer portal, NIL, OU/UT leaving, etc.), so it will be much more difficult for any coach to have sustained success at Baylor the way that such success was potentially attainable a few short years ago. To that end, it wouldn't be surprising if Baylor struggled to sign hot shot sitting HCs at the G5 level without overcommitting (in terms of annual HC pay, assistant coaching pool money, and length of initial contract). FCS coaches would be easier to target for a more traditional contract based on the salary disparity between FCS and the Big 12/ACC.
Thank you.
I think the knee jerk to give these huge contracts after one winning season bites alot of teams AND sets up Coaches for an unrealistic expectation. You cannot expect a Baylor to compete for the Conf Championship every year. The school is a "Nuanced" school with a unique mission that alot of times goes against the cut throat nature of P5 football.
I think Aranda is the perfect man for Baylor, but I do not think he can win enough to keep his job as he won't go the Briles route. Side note, the only "FCA" coach that I know that won AND played the Baptist card was Bowden. "Every boy deserves a 2nd chance. Those that run 4.4's deserve more..." I think the program is in good hands with Aranda, but not winning hands.
I seriously do not think you can win consistently and stay true to a religious mission, including ND, BC, SMU. TCU. and BYU. Football is a violent game and attracts violent people.
No one here expects a conference championship every year. That's a complete straw man.
We do, however, expect competent, sound football, something we haven't had consistently since 2021 -- the only good year produced during Dave Aranda's tenure.
I think most give him due credit for that season. That was, in my opinion and by record, the best season and most complete team Baylor has ever had, and he was the CEO of our program when it happened. But our trajectory arrow since then has been pointed straight downward. If Baylor football was a stock, we'd have investors taking dives off the ALICO building right now.
Statistically, 2021 has become a textbook outlier in an otherwise dreadful coaching tenure.
Look, I like everything about Dave except for his ability to build and lead a winning football team. I think he's a good, honorable man who has built a healthy, respectable culture in our program. But his job is to win football games. He has to do that part of his job to keep his job. And we've been snatching defeat from the jaws of victory for three straight years now.
