Joeys an average coach. Him running through this JV schedule won't change my opinion on that. Hell Dave would go 10-2 as Techs coach this year. He's going to win regularly now because Tech yearly is going to have teams way more talented than 95% of this league
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IowaBear said:
A natty?? Good grief Tech wins a few games with a giant NiL slush fund and they're suddenly national title contenders. The top teams in the country would/will mop this Tech team. If they get into the playoffs that is
Came close to working for their softball team
That's a drastically different situation. In Softball you can be carried by 1 dominate pitcher.
IowaBear said:
That's a drastically different situation. In Softball you can be carried by 1 dominate pitcher.
Not so much in today's game. All of the top teams have a nominate player. Many of them, more than one.
Canady is widely considered the best player in college softball. And the gap is huge. She carried Stanford to the CWS twice just like she carried Tech. Take her off Techs team and they're an average at best team. Your comparing Apples to Oranges
IowaBear said:
Canady is widely considered the best player in college softball. And the gap is huge. She carried Stanford to the CWS twice just like she carried Tech. Take her off Techs team and they're an average at best team. Your comparing Apples to Oranges
She got those teams there, but none of them won it. Why is that? I suggest, because there are other teams that have dominant players a and some more than one.bi am not comparing apples and oranges. By the way, Tech would still be more than average without her. Maybe not elite, but better than average.
We're going to have to agree to disagree because I don't agree with a single point your trying to make and vice versa
IowaBear said:
Joeys an average coach. Him running through this JV schedule won't change my opinion on that. Hell Dave would go 10-2 as Techs coach this year. He's going to win regularly now because Tech yearly is going to have teams way more talented than 95% of this league
This. Plus, Joey (1) essentially wins every offseason in terms of hyping Texas Tech and (2) has a few weeks every season where his team looks like it's extremely good and the team consistently falls back to earth. This season may be different due to $$$, but even with that $$$, he needs to earn it before people start crowning him and claiming that he's something that he has not proven to be.
He's going to need to beat someone with equal talent or. Better yet.. better talent than Tech. Before I crown him anything. That's going to mean winning a playoff game. And I'll go on record now saying that ain't happening this year or anytime soon. Him beating B12 teams with 1/4 the NIL budget of Tech isn't impressive whatsoever. And that'll be the case almost weekly in the B12 sans their BYU matchups
IowaBear said:
We're going to have to agree to disagree because I don't agree with a single point your trying to make and vice versa
Healthy debate. I appreciate it.
I'm good for those sometimes haha. Definitely respect your opinion though!
IowaBear said:
He's going to need to beat someone with equal talent or. Better yet.. better talent than Tech. Before I crown him anything. That's going to mean winning a playoff game. And I'll go on record now saying that ain't happening this year or anytime soon. Him beating B12 teams with 1/4 the NIL budget of Tech isn't impressive whatsoever. And that'll be the case almost weekly in the B12 sans their BYU matchups
This is my thought on Joey and Tech. Good for them to have this success thus far, but I really don't feel threatened or over impressed until I see them actually go out on the field and beat a good opponent and/or go through a whole season without crapping the bed a few times. Seems like Tech, even in years where it seems they are on the upswing still find a way to drop some "unfathomable" losses.
While I think they look like the best team in the B12, currently, I certainly don't feel like Brandon Walker does who said earlier this week that they look like "national championship contenders." My jaw hit the floor when he said that, even for him.
Joey is a high school cheerleader trying to make the transition. So far Tech looks slightly above average.
New money vs. old money.
New money vs. old money.
"So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains And we never even know we have the key"
The only thing we really know about the XII is that Colorado, OSU, and West Va appear to be not that good. Perhaps OSU is the only confirmed bad team. It is hard to tell how good everyone else is. That is what I like about the conference actually is its wide openness.
Thee University said:
Joey is a high school cheerleader trying to make the transition. So far Tech looks slightly above average.
New money vs. old money.
Tech has the horses, at least against the B12 lower half...
just shows what i have said, it is not the coach it is the recruiting infrastructure that determines success. Maguire is a average college coach at best, yet with unlimited NIL...
FLBear5630 said:Dia del DougO said:
Newer version looks cheesy. And as we all know, the left is the hand of the devil, so the flip of the hand sign seems troubling.
Left and the Devil? Is this the Middle Ages?
Well, you know lefties are… sinister.
IowaBear said:
Joeys an average coach. Him running through this JV schedule won't change my opinion on that. Hell Dave would go 10-2 as Techs coach this year. He's going to win regularly now because Tech yearly is going to have teams way more talented than 95% of this league
We'll see very soon how Tech plays against the teams we played. I don't see Aranda manhandling Kansas the way they did. And don't hold your breath for Dave to go 10-2.
We don't play Kansas… and I said Dave would go 10-2 with Techs team/schedule. Not that Dave is going 10-2. Baylor ain't winning out
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
Rightfully so. But their talent level wasn't any good over the last several years.
They finally have legitimate speed and explosiveness. Their D line would be good even for the sec. Watching them you can tell the difference. Even when they aren't playing that well, they're dominating.
They're the most talented roster in the league and second (Utah/Bu/Tcu) isn't that close. Their coaching is just okay so no doubt they could drop a couple but it's hard to see them not making the title game.
They finally have legitimate speed and explosiveness. Their D line would be good even for the sec. Watching them you can tell the difference. Even when they aren't playing that well, they're dominating.
They're the most talented roster in the league and second (Utah/Bu/Tcu) isn't that close. Their coaching is just okay so no doubt they could drop a couple but it's hard to see them not making the title game.
Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Quinton said:
Rightfully so. But their talent level wasn't any good over the last several years.
They finally have legitimate speed and explosiveness. Their D line would be good even for the sec. Watching them you can tell the difference. Even when they aren't playing that well, they're dominating.
They're the most talented roster in the league and second (Utah/Bu/Tcu) isn't that close. Their coaching is just okay so no doubt they could drop a couple but it's hard to see them not making the title game.
If you could put Baylor's offense with Utah's defense, you'd have a team that could give Tech a go. But nobody in the Big 12 has the talent both ways to compete with what they're putting on the field.
That doesn't mean Tech can't be beaten, but your margin for error against them is minuscule.
It's like us when we've played SEC teams. We're capable of beating those teams, but it would require us playing a near perfect game and them making a few mistakes.
bear2be2 said:Quinton said:
Rightfully so. But their talent level wasn't any good over the last several years.
They finally have legitimate speed and explosiveness. Their D line would be good even for the sec. Watching them you can tell the difference. Even when they aren't playing that well, they're dominating.
They're the most talented roster in the league and second (Utah/Bu/Tcu) isn't that close. Their coaching is just okay so no doubt they could drop a couple but it's hard to see them not making the title game.
If you could put Baylor's offense with Utah's defense, you'd have a team that could give Tech a go. But nobody in the Big 12 has the talent both ways to compete with what they're putting on the field.
I think that's exactly right. Outside of Tech, BU's offense and Utah's defense are the two most talented units in the conference.. by some margin.
If you combined those two into a team (was hoping Dave could do something close to this), think thats a very close ball game.
I can't wait for the Tech-A&M playoff game.
Guns up!
Guns up!
bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
It's a combination of all that, and to dismiss the fact that McGuire significantly upgraded both coordinator spots in the offseason is to miss the forest for the trees.FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
Obviously talent acquisition is important. That's been the name of the game in college football for eternity. But coaching still matters. And Tech is coaching its most talented roster ever with what may well be its best staff ever.
Leftwich is one of the most talented young offensive play-callers in the country and Shiel Wood is an elite DC. Joey is also obviously a great culture-builder. We saw that during his time in Waco.
Tech's on-field talent has been the catalyst for it's meteoric rise, obviously. But there's a ton of talent in that coaching room, too. That program is doing a lot of things right right now.
Thee University said:
Joey is a high school cheerleader trying to make the transition. So far Tech looks slightly above average.
New money vs. old money.
IMO. Joey is on the hot seat. If Franklin can get the boot after making into the CFP Semi-Finals, you think that oil billionaire is gonna sit around and let Joey waste these funds. I think if they don't make the B12 Champ game - he is gone.
BluesBear said:Thee University said:
Joey is a high school cheerleader trying to make the transition. So far Tech looks slightly above average.
New money vs. old money.
IMO. Joey is on the hot seat. If Franklin can get the boot after making into the CFP Semi-Finals, you think that oil billionaire is gonna sit around and let Joey waste these funds. I think if they don't make the B12 Champ game - he is gone.
Agreed. Tech not making the Big 12 title game at this point would be a collapse for the ages.
BluesBear said:Thee University said:
Joey is a high school cheerleader trying to make the transition. So far Tech looks slightly above average.
New money vs. old money.
IMO. Joey is on the hot seat. If Franklin can get the boot after making into the CFP Semi-Finals, you think that oil billionaire is gonna sit around and let Joey waste these funds. I think if they don't make the B12 Champ game - he is gone.
I actually agree with this. The billionaire donor is a double edged sword for McGuire. Especially it it is true he is just doing this right now only and doesn't plan or have the funds to be Phil Knight for them, which is something I had heard. Not sure if true.
While all this success so far is not really McGiure's coaching prowess. Every coach we've had would be having these results with this team, even Beall and Steele would be close to this. Hell former Tech HC Jerry Moore would have have these results with this team. If one of these kids somehow screws up in a game like a fumble or stupid penalty that leads to a loss or 2 which screws up the season, the donor is going to blame McGuire not the kid he is paying millions to. Even if it is the kid's mistake and not McGuire's.
I also think it would be assnine to fire McGuire. The donor may think he can money whip anyone he wants like Saban or someone, if he does think that, but they are not really going to get that much of an upgrade just by having a vacancy.
bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
It's a combination of all that, and to dismiss the fact that McGuire significantly upgraded both coordinator spots in the offseason is to miss the forest for the trees.
Obviously talent acquisition is important. That's been the name of the game in college football for eternity. But coaching still matters. And Tech is coaching its most talented roster ever with what may well be its best staff ever.
Leftwich is one of the most talented young offensive play-callers in the country and Shiel Wood is an elite DC. Joey is also obviously a great culture-builder. We saw that during his time in Waco.
Tech's on-field talent has been the catalyst for it's meteoric rise, obviously. But there's a ton of talent in that coaching room, too. That program is doing a lot of things right right now.
But even the upgrade in Staff is resource based. After watching 40 years of college football close up and personal, having the resources and the ability to pull the trigger is what separates success from mediocre. As I said, if you are getting hired to be the HC of P5 school, you know how to coach. All these guys are great coaches, you don't get there without being good. Steele may have failed as HC, but he was a good coach.
FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
It's a combination of all that, and to dismiss the fact that McGuire significantly upgraded both coordinator spots in the offseason is to miss the forest for the trees.
Obviously talent acquisition is important. That's been the name of the game in college football for eternity. But coaching still matters. And Tech is coaching its most talented roster ever with what may well be its best staff ever.
Leftwich is one of the most talented young offensive play-callers in the country and Shiel Wood is an elite DC. Joey is also obviously a great culture-builder. We saw that during his time in Waco.
Tech's on-field talent has been the catalyst for it's meteoric rise, obviously. But there's a ton of talent in that coaching room, too. That program is doing a lot of things right right now.
But even the upgrade in Staff is resource based. After watching 40 years of college football close up and personal, having the resources and the ability to pull the trigger is what separates success from mediocre. As I said, if you are getting hired to be the HC of P5 school, you know how to coach. All these guys are great coaches, you don't get there without being good. Steele may have failed as HC, but he was a good coach.
The HC has to create a vision for the program and identify the coordinates and position coaches that will be a good fit, then impart that vision down through the program. Some are excellent at doing that. Some aren't. That's why some guys are good position coaches or even coordinators but not HCs (Steele).
Robert Wilson said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
It's a combination of all that, and to dismiss the fact that McGuire significantly upgraded both coordinator spots in the offseason is to miss the forest for the trees.
Obviously talent acquisition is important. That's been the name of the game in college football for eternity. But coaching still matters. And Tech is coaching its most talented roster ever with what may well be its best staff ever.
Leftwich is one of the most talented young offensive play-callers in the country and Shiel Wood is an elite DC. Joey is also obviously a great culture-builder. We saw that during his time in Waco.
Tech's on-field talent has been the catalyst for it's meteoric rise, obviously. But there's a ton of talent in that coaching room, too. That program is doing a lot of things right right now.
But even the upgrade in Staff is resource based. After watching 40 years of college football close up and personal, having the resources and the ability to pull the trigger is what separates success from mediocre. As I said, if you are getting hired to be the HC of P5 school, you know how to coach. All these guys are great coaches, you don't get there without being good. Steele may have failed as HC, but he was a good coach.
The HC has to create a vision for the program and identify the coordinates and position coaches that will be a good fit, then impart that vision down through the program. Some are excellent at doing that. Some aren't. That's why some guys are good position coaches or even coordinators but not HCs (Steele).
I don't disagree with that.
FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
Buying your way to the top definitely seems like the way to go these days… but we have seen a few exceptions.
I saw something the other day where Indiana's player composite rating put them somewhere in the mid 70s... yet they are looking like a top 10 team right now.
The problem with that path is we don't currently have a "Cignetti" and they are damn hard to find.
boognish_bear said:FLBear5630 said:bear2be2 said:Dia del DougO said:
I'm only skeptical about Tech and Joey because they haven't really moved the needle that much in the past three years. They get a ton of preseason buzz, a lot of hype this year, but have yet to put the lofty expectations on paper.
I think he's a very good coach. We're about to find out of he's a good coach, or maybe better, in the coming weeks.
They're gonna need a Big 12 title and a playoff bid, maybe a win in there.
Short of that, there are still questions about their return on investment.
I don't really care either way. I'm neither bullish or bearish on them, and have very little interest outside of what Baylor does in the conference picture.
They've passed both of their real tests this season with flying colors. And they've only got two more coming -- and one of those requires a healthy Sam Leavitt to be a test, and that's a big if at the moment.
If Tech slips up and loses one they shouldn't, I'll adjust my view of the job Joey is doing.
But thus far, they've been every bit as good as advertised, and I've got to give them credit for that.
They made a good Utah team and a very solid Kansas team look very bad for large stretches of those games. If they do the same to Arizona State and BYU, they'll likely be headed to the Big 12 title game at 12-0.
Well, for Baylor to be competitive in today's game, you got to come up with the same level of money Tech is using. The talent the AD brought in at Tech there are a hundred college coaches that would be getting the same results. Give Aranda that level talent, he will win the B12 and beat an SEC team, he actually did it. It is the talent the AD and boosters can bring in, it is not the coach. Most all these guys at this level can coach or they wouldn't get the shot.
Buying your way to the top definitely seems like the way to go these days… but we have seen a few exceptions.
I saw something the other day where Indiana's player composite rating put them somewhere in the mid 70s... yet they are looking like a top 10 team right now.
The problem with that path is we don't currently have a "Cignetti" and they are damn hard to find.
The thing about Indiana is that they've gone super heavy on portal guys under Cignetti, so their players' high school rankings are kind of irrelevant. They've brought in a ton of proven guys with successful college track records.
We're kind of going to the opposite route and recommitting ourselves to high school recruiting and development, which I think is a more sustainable path for us. Build a homegrown nucleus with Texas high school talent and use the portal to fill in gaps. But our plan takes time.
We're only really two years in on this strategy, and we're going to have to wait for those guys to become redshirt sophomores, juniors and seniors to show their value.
“I’ve never been into [recruiting] Stars… the evaluation is extremely important. You find the guy who’s got the right stuff, good habits, and wants to be great—you develop them.”
— Coach Dan Casey (@CoachDanCasey) October 13, 2025
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Redbrickbear
Why are more colleges at risk of closing and how could it impact students?
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BaylorBU
Insider Notes: Where Baylor FB is in NIL, a Shift in HS Recruiting, Plus Cutting Players
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Clavin
Insider Notes: Where Baylor FB is in NIL, a Shift in HS Recruiting, Plus Cutting Players
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Ludwig von Missi
Big 12 Tournament Thread (5/21): No. 8 Baylor BSB (29-26) vs. No. 1 Kansas (39-16)
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Hambone
Big 12 Tournament Thread (5/21): No. 8 Baylor BSB (29-26) vs. No. 1 Kansas (39-16)
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Banker Bear
Insider Notes: Where Baylor FB is in NIL, a Shift in HS Recruiting, Plus Cutting Players
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