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Matt Rhule will be the next head coach at PSU
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Last: 1 mo ago by cowboycwr
Taking into account his tenure at NU, he's now established his own Big Game Matt reputation (his record vs Top25 opponents is about as bad as Franklin's), so I don't think he's their first choice. I think PSU throws the bank at Cignetti...not sure whether he'll take the bait or not though...if he doesn't, then I think Rhule has a real shot at landing his dream gig.
pathological optimist
I speculate it is already just about all but official. I suspect Rhule has been campaigning hard for it behind Franklin's and Nebraska's back for a while now. I also think the choice will be met with more skepticism among the PSU faithful than folks may think.
It won't be Rhule. I think Rhule would do VERY well there, though. But it's not like Rhule has been dominating the Big X Plains Division.
OsoCoreyell said:
It won't be Rhule. I think Rhule would do VERY well there, though. But it's not like Rhule has been dominating the Big X Plains Division.
I hear you but he has the same type of HC record when Nebraska hired him as he does now and Nebraska hired him. With his relations at PSU etc. PSU doing this wouldn't surprise me even if it does surprise many PSU partisans.
Penn State alumni are currently getting overwhelmed with phone calls, emails, etc. about PSU desperately needing donations RIGHT F'ING NOW.
Don't discount the financial factor in any decision they make. The buyout is huge. PSU is historically cheap.
That said……the hire will be someone from the East Coast.
The PSU alumni in NYC, Baltimore, DC, Philly, drive that bus.
Don't discount the financial factor in any decision they make. The buyout is huge. PSU is historically cheap.
That said……the hire will be someone from the East Coast.
The PSU alumni in NYC, Baltimore, DC, Philly, drive that bus.
It won't be Rhule.
I'm predicting Matt Campbell..they peaked last year and this season may start tumbling after all their injuries.
Franklin made 8.5 million. Cignetti makes 8.0 so Penn St isn't going to offer too much more that Indiana can't match.
I'm predicting Matt Campbell..they peaked last year and this season may start tumbling after all their injuries.
Franklin made 8.5 million. Cignetti makes 8.0 so Penn St isn't going to offer too much more that Indiana can't match.
Campbell is too big of a risk for them. He's a darn good coach. Much better than he gets credit for. But I don't see them taking that risk
I say that because Indiana and Nebraska can afford to match any offer Penn St makes.
I don't think Iowa St can so that's their Plan B.
Kiffin and Manny Diaz Plan C.
And you make my point.Campbell is better than he gets credit for...makes only 5 million. Iowa State can't afford to pay him 8-9 million.
I don't think Iowa St can so that's their Plan B.
Kiffin and Manny Diaz Plan C.
And you make my point.Campbell is better than he gets credit for...makes only 5 million. Iowa State can't afford to pay him 8-9 million.
Campbell would be a grand slam hire. I would take him every day of the week and twice on Sunday over Rhule
Rhule is a decent program builder but he does things his way even if it means taking losses that he probably doesn't have to take, and I don't think Penn State is going to put up with that approach
Rhule is a decent program builder but he does things his way even if it means taking losses that he probably doesn't have to take, and I don't think Penn State is going to put up with that approach
Stefano DiMera said:
I say that because Indiana and Nebraska can afford to match any offer Penn St makes.
Despite the farm centric nature of much of rural Indiana its still a different place than Nebraska....and the two flagship colleges show that difference.
IU is much bigger, has far more alumni, and far more wealthy ones at that....
Its in a different league than Nebraska. And far closer to being a Penn State in that regard.
IU Bloomington: 48,424 (fall 2024) students, 36,833 undergrads, 775k alumni, $3.3. billion endowment, U.S News rank #73, located in a State of 6.9 million people
U. of Nebraska: 23,986 (fall 2023), 19k undergrads, 200k alumni, $2.5 billion endowment (system wide), U.S. News rank #152, located in a State of 2 million people
Penn State: 87,995 (Fall 2024) students, 73k undergrads, living alumni: 800k, $4.5 billon endowment, U.S. News rank #59, located in a State of 13.1 million people
PS
IU-Bloomington is about 38 mins driving time from the south side of Indianapolis (2.2 million people in the city metro)....55 min drive into downtown....so it has more people in just a hour drive from campus than Nebraska has in the whole State.
Oh zero doubt PSU can pay him more. But I'm also not sure Campbell has a desire to leave Ames. He's got it made at ISU. Of course $$ always talks
IowaBear said:
Campbell is too big of a risk for them. He's a darn good coach. Much better than he gets credit for. But I don't see them taking that risk
Agree Campbell is a really good coach and ISU is lucky to have him, but to date he's never gotten over the hump and won the big one either which is a big reason PSU unloaded Franklin.
Campbell has a few top 10 wins to his resume. Something Franklin doesn't. He definitely hasn't gotten clean over the bump. But his resume against ranked opponents is much better
I think Campbell would be incredibly dangerous at Penn St with those resources, in fact probably the best hire, but I don't see him stirring the pot enough for an alumni base that already has to come up with more than $50 million (or whatever number they are now quoting; I've seen 5 different numbers).
..and that's another reason..he'll be a lot cheaper than Rhule or Cignetti... especially since they're spending $700 million on stadium renovations.
This will probably be one of those typical searches where it ends up being none of the original 4 or 5 mentioned as the likely replacement.
Just because it is Rhule's dream job, doesn't mean it's a great hire for PSU.
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool."
Big12Fan2024 said:
This will probably be one of those typical searches where it ends up being none of the original 4 or 5 mentioned as the likely replacement.
Quite possibly right..I mentioned Kiffin and Manny Diaz in another thread.
If the big guys turn Penn St down keep an eye on D'Anton Lynn... defensive coordinator at USC.
From Plano and played high school at Celina and college at Penn St..he's done an incredible job at USC..
I assume by big guys you mean one of which is Rhule. There is no way in Hell he is not going to PSU if he can get them to offer. The only way he is not going to PSU is if he can't convince them to offer it to him. Knowing Rhule he has been working on getting an offer from them for a little while now. He probably didnt wait until PSU fired Franklin. So he would have the head start.
Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
Aliceinbubbleland said:
Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.
If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.
PartyBear said:
I speculate it is already just about all but official. I suspect Rhule has been campaigning hard for it behind Franklin's and Nebraska's back for a while now. I also think the choice will be met with more skepticism among the PSU faithful than folks may think.
You come across as insanely butthurt and bitter
Oh…..how interesting.
In a nutshell I have said I think Rhule will or already is all but officially the next PSU HC. I have said he will do about as well as Franklin maybe a little worse though and that he won't really challenge Michigan or Ohio St or new comer Oregon. I have also said at this point he is about a .529 college HC which is just a fact as of today. Characterize how you want.
In a nutshell I have said I think Rhule will or already is all but officially the next PSU HC. I have said he will do about as well as Franklin maybe a little worse though and that he won't really challenge Michigan or Ohio St or new comer Oregon. I have also said at this point he is about a .529 college HC which is just a fact as of today. Characterize how you want.
Adriacus Peratuun said:Aliceinbubbleland said:
Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.
If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.
Valid point. Except we do not know if he is calling PSU.
Thank you Miami Hurricanes. 10-3. :)
Adriacus Peratuun said:Aliceinbubbleland said:
Not sure why you dislike him so much. It's the American dream to achieve your goal.
If your employees spent their work hours publicly lobbying for a job working for your direct competitor, wouldn't you be upset? Most people would blow a gasket.
That's what got me with Rhule. He knew when to turn on the Christianese talk and always did so when he was being criticized for his extreme personal ambition. I don't mind a coach at Baylor having aspirations of coaching in the NFL or at a bigger school than Baylor. That's fine. But when you're paid millions, and part of your job is to recruit and retain talent, it doesn't sit right that your open talk of leaving while collecting a paycheck is causing us to lose talent. According to Matt Rhule, God wanted him at Baylor, but he actively talked about his dreams of coaching elsewhere, and he literally interviewed for a different job after his first year. Something wasn't adding up there, and if I had to choose who was lying between God and between Matt, that's an easy choice. The moment Matt was offered a much bigger paycheck at Carolina, then God suddenly wanted him to take that job. I don't believe I've ever seen that patterned in the Bible, it's just American prosperity Christianity
That's going to ruffle some feathers on here, but that's how I've always felt about Rhule decent coach, decent program builder, loved by his players, family man…….and used car salesman that says whatever his audience wants to hear in a certain place and time.
Impressive but irrelevant.
If you got a fat wallet and a big package..you always get the hot girls..
Law of the jungle.
Hate the game not the playa.
If Rhule can have programs throwing themselves at him..why do we even care?
Law of the jungle.
Hate the game not the playa.
If Rhule can have programs throwing themselves at him..why do we even care?
You assume they'll meet his price.
He's not giving them a hometown alma mater discount either.
He's not giving them a hometown alma mater discount either.
Stefano DiMera said:
If you got a fat wallet and a big package..you always get the hot girls..
Law of the jungle.
Hate the game not the playa.
If Rhule can have programs throwing themselves at him..why do we even care?
I definitely don't want to know how big Rhule's package is
Clark Lea.
jsstewar said:
Clark Lea.
After several seasons of very subpar football, Lea made the fortunate decision to recruit Pavia and hire his offensive coordinator from New Mexico State. Vanderbilt improved overnight. I think Lea is a good coach, but I think he may have to prove it for a couple of years after Pavia leaves before a big program takes a chance on him.
That being said, if Lea can keep it going even after Pavia leaves, he may decide that Vanderbilt is the place for him. Lea grew up in Nashville and is a Vandy alum and has become a local hero. I guess a lot will depend on whether he wants to leave his hometown SEC gig.
If Lea left though, I think Vandy might jump on the phone to try to get Franklin back. Franklin built a great program there and was recruiting at an unheard of level there before he left.
Vandy will never take Franklin back. Massive scandal right before he left. Horrendous what happened. He's persona non grata in the entirety of Nashville.
boykin_spaniel said:
Vandy will never take Franklin back. Massive scandal right before he left. Horrendous what happened. He's persona non grata in the entirety of Nashville.
But Vandy fought hard to keep him after the scandal. If he is persona non grata, it would be because they felt jilted by his leaving.
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