BEAR 45 said:
Bearknuckle said:
Please create an "Art's Excellent ENMU Adventure" subsection, so that all of our many Art Briles fans can congregate there.
Art finally has his second chance, and all of his fans finally have a chance to support him as an active head coach again.
I say we support that...by creating a safe space for them. All of the rest of us promise we'll never bother them at all - they can sing his praises and curse Baylor to their hearts' content in their own place to call home.
Win/Win!
Safe space ? for who ? I bet the number of fans who like Art is 10 to 1 to those who do not. It might be just you and Thee left to message each other.
Disclaimer...I was one of the harshest critics of the BOR back on BaylorFans when everything went down in 2016. So keep that in mind as you read my comments below.
I don't think it is a case of not liking Art. Yes, he got dumped on, but it was in his power to have prevented the situation on the football side if he would just have kept a closer finger on what was going on with his players. When you say something along the lines of yeah, there are some bad dudes, it screams that you knew something was not as it should have been.
Fling away, but that mess could have been prevented with just a little bit closer eye. But that is the way it was back then. I remember seeing a clip of Nixon associated with the Watergate fiasco. He made the comment about how "they changed the rules". He was right, the stuff that went on then had been done before by Presidents of both parties for decades and no one cared. Our current political environment over the last decade of so has been the same way. Politicians get away now with things that would have been career enders in the past.
Art was not doing anything that Stoops, etc. probably hadn't done, but the environment changed and Baylor was the first to have to steer a path based on the "rules have changed". But even with that, the coach still didn't have the pulse of what his players were getting into, at least I hope he didn't yet still let it go on.
I still have an autographed ball by Art in my bookcase that I won at one of the preseason banquets. So, I have no ill will towards Art, I am just disappointed that if he would have just paid a little more attention, he probably could have avoided the disaster that ensued because he wouldn't have had players that were remotely involved. as they would have already been kicked off the team.
Glad he got another chance, but he wasn't going to stay at Baylor much longer IMO. Playing footsie with UT to the extent of screwing our Fiesta Bowl prep told me that loud and clear. Wish him well, but couldn't care less about ENMU.