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Did Baylor Do Enough in the Portal? Grading the Defense and Looking Ahead to Spring

Analyzing Baylor’s transfer portal haul on defense.
February 9, 2026
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Two of our resident experts — Grayson Grundhoefer and Colt Barber — answer some of the top questions surrounding head coach Dave Aranda and the Baylor program as the transfer portal period has wrapped up, and we look ahead to spring football.


What grade would you give Baylor’s defensive transfer portal haul? Plus, where’s your overall optimism level with Joe Klanderman’s group heading into spring football?

Grayson (Grade: B+): The addition of Indiana transfer Hosea Wheeler pushed this from a B-/C+ range to this B+ grade. The 6-foot-3, 300-pounder has played a ton of nose tackle and defensive tackle during his career, including 420 snaps in that role for the team that just won the National Championship. He does not fit the mold Dave Aranda has been looking for with these 330-plus-pound guys who eat up blocks but don’t penetrate much aside from Apu Ika, who was a freak.

Wheeler is not just a roadblock, as he has shown some flashes of pass rushing to go along with holding up extremely well against the run. He is better than anything Baylor has had at nose since Ika moved on to the NFL, and shoot, the other nose tackle type Baylor got, Marshall transfer Jamaal Whyce, is also far better than what they have had in that role. These two are going to be so impactful on the interior of the line, which makes me feel like the linebacker should play better because of what they have in front of them. This was a huge need, and Baylor addressed it.

The concerns I still have are pass rushing plus development at linebacker and safety. Baylor did some things in these areas, but these are all still question marks that keep this haul from being in the A territory. I like the pieces they brought in, but they will need some development from multiple guys on the roster, along with other guys having substantially more production than in their careers up to this point.

Overall, I wish the coaching staff had added one more proven pass rusher, potentially a more solidified linebacker and another versatile safety who could play nickel. But overall, the main thing missing for me is one more dude that’s a true game-changer; aside from that, I thought Baylor did awesome, assuming Wheeler is ruled eligible.


Colt (Grade: B): Hosea Wheeler is the headliner if he’s approved for an extra year. That piece matters more than anything else in this class. The other defensive line additions are intriguing and will produce, but Wheeler is the guy who can raise the ceiling. He brings experience, physicality and a level of consistency that allows everyone else to slot into roles that make sense.

The cornerback room took a real step forward with the addition of Devon Jordan from Oklahoma. Putting him opposite LeVar Thornton gives Baylor something they’ve been chasing for a while, which is balance. Baylor has battled injuries there the last few years, so that still looms, but I have some confidence that Baylor can really have a strong cornerback group.

Safety might quietly be the most underrated part of this class. Daniels Cobbs and Colby McCalister from Kansas State are quality adds and fit what Baylor wants to do on the back end with new DC Joe Klanderman. They bring experience and toughness and pair well with the returning production already in the room. But the real key is still Devin Turner. If Turner is right, coming off the ACL injury that forced him to miss 2025, that room looks completely different. He’s the tone setter. His return raises the ceiling more than any single safety transfer could, in my mind.

Linebacker is still where I’m most concerned. That room has the most unanswered questions and probably the least margin for error. That said, getting Travion Barnes back after his early-season injury in 2025 helps settle things a bit. Similar to Turner at safety, Barnes gives you a known quantity and eases the pressure on everyone else to be something they’re not. It doesn’t eliminate concern, but it makes sense why Baylor didn't add more than it did.

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Danielsjackson114
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So is portal period officially done?
Bearknuckle
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Colt and I have very similar perspectives on this, and I agree with Grayson that adding one more Dude* would have made me feel better about the chance for a major turnaround (but I still think it's there).

Coach Modkins is an X factor too - I have very high hopes for him (and Klanderman with the Safeties) but Coach G left a huge pair of shoes to fill, so until we see them under the lights against Auburn, I'm going to have a little cautious concern about the secondary.

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* i.e. guy with either elite (Top 5) production in the G5 or top 25 production in the G4, at their position.
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C+. A lot of talk about the Indiana transfer, but he technically isn't even approved to play yet. Just my opinion, but I don't think that we landed enough big time playmakers. We took a lot of guys that were just kind of average to maybe slightly above average in the Sunbelt or conference USA, and we are now expecting them to achieve the same results in a more competitive conference in one off-season with a questionable group of coaches (to put it nicely). I am also very concerned about the offensive line. We took a lot of undersized guys, many of whom again were not exactly dominant players in lesser conferences, and we are expecting to turn them into a cohesive unit over one off-season with a new offensive line coach that doesn't have an extensive resume

That's not to say that we didn't get a few promising looking players. The wide receiver from Colorado. The tight end from Florida. The offensive lineman from Texas come to mind. Lagway was also a good pick up.

But bottom line? I'll put it this way: Indiana's coaching staff probably could've won 9 or 10 games in the big 12 with last year's roster. What I'm seeing from the current roster, they would struggle to win six or seven games. Next season could be very ugly
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Youre a clown said:

C+. A lot of talk about the Indiana transfer, but he technically isn't even approved to play yet. Just my opinion, but I don't think that we landed enough big time playmakers. We took a lot of guys that were just kind of average to maybe slightly above average in the Sunbelt or conference USA, and we are now expecting them to achieve the same results in a more competitive conference in one off-season with a questionable group of coaches (to put it nicely). I am also very concerned about the offensive line. We took a lot of undersized guys, many of whom again were not exactly dominant players in lesser conferences, and we are expecting to turn them into a cohesive unit over one off-season with a new offensive line coach that doesn't have an extensive resume

That's not to say that we didn't get a few promising looking players. The wide receiver from Colorado. The tight end from Florida. The offensive lineman from Texas come to mind. Lagway was also a good pick up.

But bottom line? I'll put it this way: Indiana's coaching staff probably could've won 9 or 10 games in the big 12 with last year's roster. What I'm seeing from the current roster, they would struggle to win six or seven games. Next season could be very ugly


Indiana's staff wins 10 games with this group last year, assuming they had a few months before season. A whole offseason, no doubt.

The standard, the precise organization of workouts and practice, the efficiency (don't waste time), the energy. David isn't even playing the same game as these guys, different universe.
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I'll grade it later. We've seen it before.

Put it on paper.
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Grade: D for Dave

Dave will continue to bury our beloved program. We are shat
Danielsjackson114
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How does one get "up" for yet another Dave Aranda led team?
DAC
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4 wins
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DAC said:

4 wins


I don't think finishing a season with 4 wins is a realistic scenario, because I don't think a version of Baylor that only wins 4 total is going to win even one of those against AUB, TCU, or ASU...and so a team that bad will have Dave canned by October.

I do think the above scenario is within the range of what's possible (i.e. they're so bad he's gone by the halfway point of the season), but not one where he finishes the season with only 4 wins.

Of course if the DJ-led Offense clicks and Klanderman performs a minor miracle and there are no significant season-long injuries, 8 wins is not impossible either even against our pretty salty schedule.

At this point there's too much uncertainty to be confident in either direction - but the latter scenario involves everything going right, whereas the former assumes most things will go wrong. So I already know where everyone's at vibes-wise lol.

EDIT(add): to be clear my current range is:
  • FLOOR: Dave Is Fired Before Season Ends
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  • CEILING: 8-9 wins (including bowl game)
I'll raise/lower both floor and ceiling accordingly after Spring Camp and again after Fall Camp.
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DAC said:

4 wins


I think the ceiling is 5 wins, with 3-4 wins being more likely.
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If the Indiana DL comes through C+ to B-

Otherwise, C-
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Let's take the optimistic scenario:

Auburn = L
Prarie View = W
LA Tech = W

A 2-1 start. Two games left before the bye week, Colorado and Arizona State.

Colorado = L, Too Much Talent and Speed
Arizona State = L, Good Talent, Great Coaching

We get to the bye week 2-3.

It's a given we finish the season 0-3 since we will be @BYU, Tech, and @Houston. These are ascendant programs in the conference and Arandaball won't have a shot against any of them unless their rosters show up with hangovers and are -3 on the turnover margin anytime soon.

So that's a 2-6 season, with games against TCU, Kansas, UCF, and Iowa State coming off the bye week and we need to run the table against them to get us to 6-6 and bowl eligibility.

Say we manage to take 1 of 2 against Colorado and Arizona State that's still a 3-5 season with those four games unaccounted for yet.

So say we lose to TCU or Kansas and beat UCF and Iowa State. Going 3-1 over that stretch only gets us to somewhere between 5-7 and 6-6.

Even if we lose to TCU and Kansas while beating UCF and a depleted Iowa State team that only gets us to 6-6 or 7-5.

The pessimistic scenario is we manage to steal a game or two in conference play after a 2-1 start and end up 3-9 or 4-8.

The La Tech game will be the early season litmus test to see if this G5 roster can play Big 12 football. Struggle against them, and it's going to be a really long year.
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Realitybites said:

Let's take the optimistic scenario:

Auburn = L
Prarie View = W
LA Tech = W

A 2-1 start. Two games left before the bye week, Colorado and Arizona State.

Colorado = L, Too Much Talent and Speed
Arizona State = L, Good Talent, Great Coaching

We get to the bye week 2-3.

It's a given we finish the season 0-3 since we will be @BYU, Tech, and @Houston. These are ascendant programs in the conference and Arandaball won't have a shot against any of them unless their rosters show up with hangovers and are -3 on the turnover margin anytime soon.

So that's a 2-6 season, with games against TCU, Kansas, UCF, and Iowa State coming off the bye week and we need to run the table against them to get us to 6-6 and bowl eligibility.

Say we manage to take 1 of 2 against Colorado and Arizona State that's still a 3-5 season with those four games unaccounted for yet.

So say we lose to TCU or Kansas and beat UCF and Iowa State. Going 3-1 over that stretch only gets us to somewhere between 5-7 and 6-6.

Even if we lose to TCU and Kansas while beating UCF and a depleted Iowa State team that only gets us to 6-6 or 7-5.

The pessimistic scenario is we manage to steal a game or two in conference play after a 2-1 start and end up 3-9 or 4-8.

The La Tech game will be the early season litmus test to see if this G5 roster can play Big 12 football. Struggle against them, and it's going to be a really long year.

I just hope we lose every fkn game so there is no argument as to why we should keep him
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Realitybites said:

Let's take the optimistic scenario:

Auburn = L
Prarie View = W
LA Tech = W

A 2-1 start. Two games left before the bye week, Colorado and Arizona State.

Colorado = L, Too Much Talent and Speed

Arizona State = L, Good Talent, Great Coaching

We get to the bye week 2-3.

It's a given we finish the season 0-3 since we will be @BYU, Tech, and @Houston. These are ascendant programs in the conference and Arandaball won't have a shot against any of them unless their rosters show up with hangovers and are -3 on the turnover margin anytime soon.

So that's a 2-6 season, with games against TCU, Kansas, UCF, and Iowa State coming off the bye week and we need to run the table against them to get us to 6-6 and bowl eligibility.

Say we manage to take 1 of 2 against Colorado and Arizona State that's still a 3-5 season with those four games unaccounted for yet.

So say we lose to TCU or Kansas and beat UCF and Iowa State. Going 3-1 over that stretch only gets us to somewhere between 5-7 and 6-6.

Even if we lose to TCU and Kansas while beating UCF and a depleted Iowa State team that only gets us to 6-6 or 7-5.

The pessimistic scenario is we manage to steal a game or two in conference play after a 2-1 start and end up 3-9 or 4-8.

The La Tech game will be the early season litmus test to see if this G5 roster can play Big 12 football. Struggle against them, and it's going to be a really long year.

you're making a lot of assumptions here, some of which I agree with, but some I don't quite get...for one I think CU is still a bottom feeder next year.

it's easy to assume all of our opponents moves will work out and ours will fail, but there's no chance that's exactly how it plays out - even if we're total garbage, some teams are going to outperform expectations and others will fall short...happens every year.
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9-3 book it!
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Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.
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I can already see the "he needs more time with Klanderman" articles
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TenBears said:

Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.


As evidenced by more than just last year.
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TenBears said:

Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.



My favorite excuse is, "we were just a few plays away from winning a few more games, and if that happened, no one would be talking bad about Dave"
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Youre a clown said:

TenBears said:

Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.



My favorite excuse is, "we were just a few plays away from winning a few more games, and if that happened, no one would be talking bad about Dave"

The same was said about Steele, early on. I've been saying Aranda isn't going anywhere absent a total collapse, which is unlikely with Spav and Klanderman running their separate shows. This admin is going to do all it can to keep him on board. The W-L record will be fungible to a large degree. IMO, the Bears will be improved this year but it's likely a dead cat bounce.
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drahthaar said:

Youre a clown said:

TenBears said:

Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.



My favorite excuse is, "we were just a few plays away from winning a few more games, and if that happened, no one would be talking bad about Dave"

The same was said about Steele, early on. I've been saying Aranda isn't going anywhere absent a total collapse, which is unlikely with Spav and Klanderman running their separate shows. This admin is going to do all it can to keep him on board. The W-L record will be fungible to a large degree. IMO, the Bears will be improved this year but it's likely a dead cat bounce.


Astonishing that Arandas best chance of saving his job is to basically check out, let the those two guys run the show, and then take credit for whatever happens. My retirement plan is to figure out a job that I'm really not capable of doing and then let Baylor hire me to do it.
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Bearknuckle said:

Realitybites said:

Let's take the optimistic scenario:

Auburn = L
Prarie View = W
LA Tech = W

A 2-1 start. Two games left before the bye week, Colorado and Arizona State.

Colorado = L, Too Much Talent and Speed

Arizona State = L, Good Talent, Great Coaching

We get to the bye week 2-3.

It's a given we finish the season 0-3 since we will be @BYU, Tech, and @Houston. These are ascendant programs in the conference and Arandaball won't have a shot against any of them unless their rosters show up with hangovers and are -3 on the turnover margin anytime soon.

So that's a 2-6 season, with games against TCU, Kansas, UCF, and Iowa State coming off the bye week and we need to run the table against them to get us to 6-6 and bowl eligibility.

Say we manage to take 1 of 2 against Colorado and Arizona State that's still a 3-5 season with those four games unaccounted for yet.

So say we lose to TCU or Kansas and beat UCF and Iowa State. Going 3-1 over that stretch only gets us to somewhere between 5-7 and 6-6.

Even if we lose to TCU and Kansas while beating UCF and a depleted Iowa State team that only gets us to 6-6 or 7-5.

The pessimistic scenario is we manage to steal a game or two in conference play after a 2-1 start and end up 3-9 or 4-8.

The La Tech game will be the early season litmus test to see if this G5 roster can play Big 12 football. Struggle against them, and it's going to be a really long year.

you're making a lot of assumptions here, some of which I agree with, but some I don't quite get...for one I think CU is still a bottom feeder next year.

it's easy to assume all of our opponents moves will work out and ours will fail, but there's no chance that's exactly how it plays out - even if we're total garbage, some teams are going to outperform expectations and others will fall short...happens every year.

This. A ~7-5 regular season seems about right given the schedule, however, it is certainly in flux and is open to further assessment after the spring.
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Lol, this team isn't winning more than four games.
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CaliBear00 said:

Lol, this team isn't winning more than four games.

you very well may be right, but I wouldn't bet your house on it (they'd defo hit 5 wins if you did).

I think 5 to 7 wins is the window with the highest probability...because as I said up-thread, some Big 12 teams will exceed expectations, some will meet them, and some will fall short.

I don't think Dave keeps his job with fewer than 7 regular season wins, but I tbh think he should only be 'automatically' safe at 8+ regular season wins (our schedule seems pretty damn salty as of February 18th).
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TenBears said:

Aranda is not going anywhere. A lot of you people are getting played like violins. The mods have already set this up as a B+ recruiting class. So Aranda will get brownie points for his recruiting skill. He will lose 4-5 of the first 6 games and we will be told by the administration and the mods that he just needs more time for the brand new stud recruiting class to gel. And they will say that, even at 3-5 or whatever a bowl is still in the cards. If he wins during the latter part of the season, he will stay. If he doesn't win in the latter part of the season, we will be told that he needs to stay to hold the B+ recruiting class together. The bottom line is that it doesn't matter how good the recruiting class is. Aranda cannot coach and cannot win with them, as evidenced by last year.



People saying Aranda is canned after a 2-4 start or 2-5 are the same ones who said he would be canned in 2025 if he didn't make a bowl game. All the evidence says we keep him regardless. He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

There is no evidence Baylor is serious about football. But hey we'll have better tailgating and cheap concessions.

Prove me wrong Baylor.
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JP1037 said:


...He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

Prove me wrong Baylor.


Winning the Big 12 Championship in 2021 is 'never touching a Big 12 Championship race"?

How does that work?
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Delmar 2.0 said:

JP1037 said:


...He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

Prove me wrong Baylor.


Winning the Big 12 Championship in 2021 is 'never touching a Big 12 Championship race"?

How does that work?


After 2028 he will have here 9 years. 7 years since 2021.
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JP1037 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

JP1037 said:


...He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

Prove me wrong Baylor.


Winning the Big 12 Championship in 2021 is 'never touching a Big 12 Championship race"?

How does that work?


After 2028 he will have here 9 years. 7 years since 2021.

Because he never even did it in the first place (untrue), now he can't do it in the next three seasons...lol ok.

The latter assertion would be more believable if the former weren't dead ass wrong.

For the millionth time: 2021 flat out doesn't happen without Apu Ika, Jacob Gall, Dillon Doyle, or both Pitre and Abraham Smith being moved to their natural positions having been played out of position under Rhule.

...

It's O-K to believe that Dave is not the guy to turn things around - there are rational reasons to think that!

But it's asinine to claim, as a justification of that view, that he's never HC'd a successful season (let alone the best in Baylor history, in fact).
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Bearknuckle said:

JP1037 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

JP1037 said:


...He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

Prove me wrong Baylor.


Winning the Big 12 Championship in 2021 is 'never touching a Big 12 Championship race"?

How does that work?


After 2028 he will have here 9 years. 7 years since 2021.

Because he never even did it in the first place (untrue), now he can't do it in the next three seasons...lol ok.

The latter assertion would be more believable if the former weren't dead ass wrong.

For the millionth time: 2021 flat out doesn't happen without Apu Ika, Jacob Gall, Dillon Doyle, or both Pitre and Abraham Smith being moved to their natural positions having been played out of position under Rhule.

...

It's O-K to believe that Dave is not the guy to turn things around - there are rational reasons to think that!

But it's asinine to claim, as a justification of that view, that he's never HC'd a successful season (let alone the best in Baylor history, in fact).

Nowhere in that post did he ever say that Dave never made it to a big 12 championship or "HCd a successful season".
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Youre a clown said:

Bearknuckle said:

JP1037 said:

Delmar 2.0 said:

JP1037 said:


...He will likely be fired after 2028 season after 7 years of mid to poor results and never touching a Big 12 championship race.

Prove me wrong Baylor.


Winning the Big 12 Championship in 2021 is 'never touching a Big 12 Championship race"?

How does that work?


After 2028 he will have here 9 years. 7 years since 2021.

Because he never even did it in the first place (untrue), now he can't do it in the next three seasons...lol ok.

The latter assertion would be more believable if the former weren't dead ass wrong.

For the millionth time: 2021 flat out doesn't happen without Apu Ika, Jacob Gall, Dillon Doyle, or both Pitre and Abraham Smith being moved to their natural positions having been played out of position under Rhule.

...

It's O-K to believe that Dave is not the guy to turn things around - there are rational reasons to think that!

But it's asinine to claim, as a justification of that view, that he's never HC'd a successful season (let alone the best in Baylor history, in fact).

Nowhere in that post did he ever say that Dave never made it to a big 12 championship or "HCd a successful season".


I misread the 7 years as referring simply to the "mid to poor results", but technically we were not eliminated from the Big 12 title race in 2024 until the penultimate weekend's results: while it was definitely a long shot, two losses each by ISU, CU and BYU would have seen us in the title game.

Not something to hang your hat on as a high point, but it was a marked improvement from prior to years during which we did not in fact touch the title race at all.
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If it were Rhule that were still here and went from a CG in 2021, and was head coaching 22, 23, 24 and 25, he would be needing a prove-it year as well. Don't really matter who. It has been a very sad trajectory since.

Put it on paper.
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I'll admit I wasn't super clear on my point.

Dave's contract runs through 2029. I am highly skeptical based on empirical evidence that Baylor agrees to fire Dave until perhaps he has one year left on his contract after 2028 season. It would cost us minimal amount at that point.

At that point in time Baylor will not have sniffed a Big 12 Championship in 7 years. We may make a lower bowl once or twice but I wouldn't bet on even that.

I hope I'm wrong but there is no reason to believe I'm wrong other than wishful thinking. Evidence is what it is.
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JP1037 said:

I'll admit I wasn't super clear on my point.

Dave's contract runs through 2029. I am highly skeptical based on empirical evidence that Baylor agrees to fire Dave until perhaps he has one year left on his contract after 2028 season. It would cost us minimal amount at that point.

At that point in time Baylor will not have sniffed a Big 12 Championship in 7 years. We may make a lower bowl once or twice but I wouldn't bet on even that.

I hope I'm wrong but there is no reason to believe I'm wrong other than wishful thinking. Evidence is what it is.


I agree. Short of 1-11 (or whatever) or 2-10 they will not fire him. Dave is the best ever at not getting fired.
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TenBears said:

JP1037 said:

I'll admit I wasn't super clear on my point.

Dave's contract runs through 2029. I am highly skeptical based on empirical evidence that Baylor agrees to fire Dave until perhaps he has one year left on his contract after 2028 season. It would cost us minimal amount at that point.

At that point in time Baylor will not have sniffed a Big 12 Championship in 7 years. We may make a lower bowl once or twice but I wouldn't bet on even that.

I hope I'm wrong but there is no reason to believe I'm wrong other than wishful thinking. Evidence is what it is.


I agree. Short of 1-11 (or whatever) or 2-10 they will not fire him. Dave is the best ever at not getting fired.


We are reliving the Steele years
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PacificBear said:

TenBears said:

JP1037 said:

I'll admit I wasn't super clear on my point.

Dave's contract runs through 2029. I am highly skeptical based on empirical evidence that Baylor agrees to fire Dave until perhaps he has one year left on his contract after 2028 season. It would cost us minimal amount at that point.

At that point in time Baylor will not have sniffed a Big 12 Championship in 7 years. We may make a lower bowl once or twice but I wouldn't bet on even that.

I hope I'm wrong but there is no reason to believe I'm wrong other than wishful thinking. Evidence is what it is.


I agree. Short of 1-11 (or whatever) or 2-10 they will not fire him. Dave is the best ever at not getting fired.


We are reliving the Steele years

It still not that bad.

I do think Dave's seat is very hot this year and he needs to get us into a bowl game or he is out. I think he lucked out in 2025 because of Mack's shenanigans.
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