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LIB,MR BEARS
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Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.

True but, it's a dead horse. Why are we still kicking it?
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.

True but, it's a dead horse. Why are we still kicking it?


That was posted before today's news.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Baylorbears111 said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.

True but, it's a dead horse. Why are we still kicking it?


That was posted before today's news.


Gotcha

My bad
McCavebear
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Bearsalwayswin said:

i don't like traylor

Why not? He has demonstrated turnaround ability. That is something that is valuable to BU.
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bear2be2
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Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.
LIB,MR BEARS
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bear2be2 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.


Yes. Among other things, Rhoades screwed the fans and the university.
Baylorbears111
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bear2be2 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.


I just think McNamee could've made that decision and hired Traylor or Danielson last year.
bear2be2
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Baylorbears111 said:

bear2be2 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.


I just think McNamee could've made that decision and hired Traylor or Danielson last year.
It would have been a rushed process, and they clearly didn't want to do that.

McNamee wasn't hired until Dec. 8. Asking him to hire a football coach in a matter of a week or two as his first order of business wouldn't have been fair to him or likely been a very high-quality or thorough process.

As frustrating as it was to wait, I can't really believe Blake Linda and Co. for wanting to treat both the AD and inevitable football coaching searches with care and diligence they deserve.
Stranger
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LIB,MR BEARS said:

bear2be2 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.


Yes. Among other things, Rhoades screwed the fans and the university.


and they paid him over a million to be fired for cause
blackie
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Yes, hiring Bell......even considering Bell would be an absolute disaster. This board would be more negative than at any time in Aranda's tenure.
PartyBear
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Yes likely the wheels would come off the program. The posters here really have no clue what being fans of a program like that is like. They think being a .500 program is pure trauma. But yes that would be a move very reminiscent of the Steele hire.
Realitybites
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blackie said:

Yes, hiring Bell......even considering Bell would be an absolute disaster. This board would be more negative than at any time in Aranda's tenure.


I would honestly rather give Klanderman the job and see how he does rather than even interview Bell.
Pecos 45
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Timbear said:

1. Hire an existing HC, not a coordinator.
2. Hire a HC with a winning history.
3. Hire an OFFENSIVE minded HC. (Not another Rhule or Aranda)
4. Hire a HC with Texas or at least Southern roots.
5. Hire a younger vs older HC, no older retreads.
6. Interview Black coaching candidates also.

Why not Mike Singletary?
drahthaar
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Stranger said:

LIB,MR BEARS said:

bear2be2 said:

Baylorbears111 said:

BUATX2000 said:

boognish_bear said:


1 and 2 are the only real options and likely we will be a 3rd or 4th best option for Danielson. Bell is probably our best bet but I don't want another guy with no HC experience. 7 seasons of watching Dave "learn" on the job has been painful.


Imagine wasting another year with Dave Aranda football just to hire guys we could've already hired last year. What purpose did another of Dave serve?

This type of resource mismanagement doesn't get hammered hard enough by the BOR. It's fine if you think Traylor or Danielson are the guys, but if they are then why are we not already in Year 1 with them? There was no value to waiting.
From a practical standpoint, there was $4 million worth of value in waiting an additional year.

But the real reason the trigger wasn't pulled last year is that Rhoades went and got himself fired, leaving no full-time AD in position to evaluate the situation and oversee the firing/hiring process.

Rhoades' philandering earned Aranda a stay of execution. It's really no deeper than that.


Yes. Among other things, Rhoades screwed the fans and the university.


and they paid him over a million to be fired for cause


Ahhh, more than that, wasn't it? Maybe a lot more?
cowach
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I hope the AD/Committee places a value on experience. Going after the next "up and comer" comes with risk. Sometimes coaches learn valuable lessons by failing in a job. Let's name a few that failed, were fired, and later became successful:
Bill Bellichick
Nick Saban
Andy Reid
Pete Carroll
Lane Kiffin
...and let's not forget it took John Wooden 15 seasons before he won a championship.
PartyBear
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Oh Lord RGIII as per Twitter actually does want the job. I'm not sure if he is just seeking attention and isn't really throwing his name in the hat, or if he is begging for Baylor to reach out to him or both but it is trending. I have no idea why he is trying to throw his name into the mix. I hate to say it but he seems to have developed or is developing somewhat into a narcissist. It's trending over there or at least for me it is.
cougar king
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There's a perfectly good Dana Holgerson you can hire as long as you have a high end steakhouse in Waco.
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PartyBear said:

Oh Lord RGIII as per Twitter actually does want the job. I'm not sure if he is just seeking attention and isn't really throwing his name in the hat, or if he is begging for Baylor to reach out to him or both but it is trending. I hate to say it but he seems to have developed or is developing somewhat into a narcissist. It's trending over there or at least for me it is.


Sooo… with a Heisman, ZERO experience on ANY level of coaching/HC-team CEO basically and part of broadcasting team of lower tiered
games on Friday… or Saturday. Got it. Check.
Realitybites
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Pecos 45 said:

Timbear said:

1. Hire an existing HC, not a coordinator.
2. Hire a HC with a winning history.
3. Hire an OFFENSIVE minded HC. (Not another Rhule or Aranda)
4. Hire a HC with Texas or at least Southern roots.
5. Hire a younger vs older HC, no older retreads.
6. Interview Black coaching candidates also.

Why not Mike Singletary?


As linebackers coach? Ok.
PartyBear
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Back to serious discussion. If our target really is the Boise HC we need to try to nail it down privately and very quickly, obviously with no announcement u til after the season. I'm afraid if UW or USC opens up they would go after him and we would lose that race. Of course I'm sure he isn't an idiot and knows those two could open up as well, especially UW, so he wouldn't allow Baylor to rush him into getting locked down too soon even with a hard to say "no" to offer.



Much later edit here. At least according to AI, UW would owe Fish 33 mil if fired this year so they probably aren't parting ways just real soon. Of course as mentioned Riley's is in the 60 mil figure so even they probably can't or aren't really willing to pay him that much to say good bye at this time.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Pecos 45 said:

Timbear said:

1. Hire an existing HC, not a coordinator.
2. Hire a HC with a winning history.
3. Hire an OFFENSIVE minded HC. (Not another Rhule or Aranda)
4. Hire a HC with Texas or at least Southern roots.
5. Hire a younger vs older HC, no older retreads.
6. Interview Black coaching candidates also.

Why not Mike Singletary?


Great players don't always make great coaches. If he was a proven winner as a coach at the college level, NIL era, I'd be all for it. But, he is not a proven winner as a coach.
LIB,MR BEARS
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Pecos 45 said:

Timbear said:

1. Hire an existing HC, not a coordinator.
2. Hire a HC with a winning history.
3. Hire an OFFENSIVE minded HC. (Not another Rhule or Aranda)
4. Hire a HC with Texas or at least Southern roots.
5. Hire a younger vs older HC, no older retreads.
6. Interview Black coaching candidates also.

Why not Mike Singletary?


The Red Williams school of leadership says no.

Games Managed: 637
Wins: 273
Losses: 364
Winning Percentage: .429
 
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