PartyBear said:

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No one has mentioned Charles Huff at Memphis since we have had an opening. He seems he would be a prospect.

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I'm pretty sure his name came up semi frequently when this discussion first started

Billy Bolls said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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jikespingleton said:

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I'm not too big on Traylor.

He is like the chick in high school that you didn't want to invite to prom bc you had your eye on someone else, but you waited too long and then she was all that was left.

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Dude is 60. College football for the most part is not an old man program anymore.

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There are people on the premium board that would give their left nut for Willie Fritz, who's like 66. There are some coaches that want to smoke a brisket for 24 hours, but all you have time for in modern football is cooking a frozen pizza for 12 minutes. Some older coaches can't adapt to that, but some younger Ish ones can't either (Matt rule comes to mind.)

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Willie Fritz has been awesome in the Big 12 -- a league that still very much allows for brisket-smoking.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. And there are people experiencing success in many different ways in modern college football. The key as a head coach is finding the right situation and fit for what you do well.

In our league, Baylor can still be a culture/build program.

PartyBear said:

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No one has mentioned Charles Huff at Memphis since we have had an opening. He seems he would be a prospect.

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I want no part of Charles Huff, and the following clip is why. That guy's lack of loyalty to his employer borders on disrespect.

If I was the Memphis AD, I would seriously consider firing him for giving this answer behind/in front of the Memphis logo.

Charles Huff on recruiting:

“Every time a coach says, ‘Coach Huff ain’t going to be there,’ it actually works in my favor. Because if I’m leaving Memphis, I ain’t going to high school. I’m going to something bigger.”https://t.co/e3zURCnEjb pic.twitter.com/Eb3cltuaU4

— Jonah Dylan (@TheJonahDylan) November 10, 2026

Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

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I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

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I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

bear2be2 said:

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PartyBear said:

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No one has mentioned Charles Huff at Memphis since we have had an opening. He seems he would be a prospect.

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I want no part of Charles Huff, and the following clip is why. That guy's lack of loyalty to his employer borders on disrespect.

If I was the Memphis AD, I would seriously consider firing him for giving this answer behind/in front of the Memphis logo.

Charles Huff on recruiting:

“Every time a coach says, ‘Coach Huff ain’t going to be there,’ it actually works in my favor. Because if I’m leaving Memphis, I ain’t going to high school. I’m going to something bigger.”https://t.co/e3zURCnEjb pic.twitter.com/Eb3cltuaU4

— Jonah Dylan (@TheJonahDylan) November 10, 2026

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I don't like that, but he's just saying out loud what everybody does. It's Memphis. Of course he's going to move on if he gets a better job.

Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

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I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

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I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

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No one else has dominated UCF the way we did ... on their home field. Our next opponent most certainly didn't.

And of the five ranked opponents Iowa State has played this season, only one (Arizona) held a three-score lead in the fourth quarter.

We can have a serious talk about our last two opponents without denigrating two good wins.

bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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jikespingleton said:

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I'm not too big on Traylor.

He is like the chick in high school that you didn't want to invite to prom bc you had your eye on someone else, but you waited too long and then she was all that was left.

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Dude is 60. College football for the most part is not an old man program anymore.

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There are people on the premium board that would give their left nut for Willie Fritz, who's like 66. There are some coaches that want to smoke a brisket for 24 hours, but all you have time for in modern football is cooking a frozen pizza for 12 minutes. Some older coaches can't adapt to that, but some younger Ish ones can't either (Matt rule comes to mind.)

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Willie Fritz has been awesome in the Big 12 -- a league that still very much allows for brisket-smoking.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. And there are people experiencing success in many different ways in modern college football. The key as a head coach is finding the right situation and fit for what you do well.

In our league, Baylor can still be a culture/build program.

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The big 12 does not allow for brisket smoking. When I say brisket smoking, I'm referring to trying to build through the high school ranks, stashing talent for several years, "trust the process" etc. The teams that are winning, are doing it through the portal. I'm less certain about BYU, but I view them as an exception to the rule as they have an army of Mormons at their beck and call.

bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

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I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

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I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

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No one else has dominated UCF the way we did ... on their home field. Our next opponent most certainly didn't.

We can have a serious talk about our last two opponents without denigrating two good wins.

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If you want to give Klanderman the job for dominating UCF, you have low standards. I'm not "denigrating" anything, that's such a weird comment.

Billy Bolls said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

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I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

---

I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

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No one else has dominated UCF the way we did ... on their home field. Our next opponent most certainly didn't.

We can have a serious talk about our last two opponents without denigrating two good wins.

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If you want to give Klanderman the job for dominating UCF, you have low standards. I'm not "denigrating" anything, that's such a weird comment.

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I'm going to give him due credit for winning those games in the fashion he did, and wait and see how the next three play out.

But trying to downplay Klanderman's performance to date is dumb. He's done better than anyone could have possibly expected.

And just as a point of fact, there has been exactly one team in college football this year that has dominated UCF this season. No one else has beaten them by more than 14 points. So if being pleased with murdering that team on their home field means I have "low standards," then I guess I'm guilty as charged.

Billy Bolls said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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johnnychimpo said:

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jikespingleton said:

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I'm not too big on Traylor.

He is like the chick in high school that you didn't want to invite to prom bc you had your eye on someone else, but you waited too long and then she was all that was left.

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Dude is 60. College football for the most part is not an old man program anymore.

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There are people on the premium board that would give their left nut for Willie Fritz, who's like 66. There are some coaches that want to smoke a brisket for 24 hours, but all you have time for in modern football is cooking a frozen pizza for 12 minutes. Some older coaches can't adapt to that, but some younger Ish ones can't either (Matt rule comes to mind.)

---

Willie Fritz has been awesome in the Big 12 -- a league that still very much allows for brisket-smoking.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. And there are people experiencing success in many different ways in modern college football. The key as a head coach is finding the right situation and fit for what you do well.

In our league, Baylor can still be a culture/build program.

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The big 12 does not allow for brisket smoking. When I say brisket smoking, I'm referring to trying to build through the high school ranks, stashing talent for several years, "trust the process" etc. The teams that are winning, are doing it through the portal. I'm less certain about BYU, but I view them as an exception to the rule as they have an army of Mormons at their beck and call.

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Every team uses the portal to a degree. But there are absolutely degrees to that. And there are still programs relying heavily on players they recruited and developed.

There's no one way to do anything. The best programs in our league are combining all methods to build the best roster/team possible.

Billy Bolls said:

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bear2be2 said:

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PartyBear said:

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No one has mentioned Charles Huff at Memphis since we have had an opening. He seems he would be a prospect.

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I want no part of Charles Huff, and the following clip is why. That guy's lack of loyalty to his employer borders on disrespect.

If I was the Memphis AD, I would seriously consider firing him for giving this answer behind/in front of the Memphis logo.

Charles Huff on recruiting:

“Every time a coach says, ‘Coach Huff ain’t going to be there,’ it actually works in my favor. Because if I’m leaving Memphis, I ain’t going to high school. I’m going to something bigger.”https://t.co/e3zURCnEjb pic.twitter.com/Eb3cltuaU4

— Jonah Dylan (@TheJonahDylan) November 10, 2026

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I don't like that, but he's just saying out loud what everybody does. It's Memphis. Of course he's going to move on if he gets a better job.

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It's completely disrespectful to his current employer, and it was a stupid ass thing to say out loud.

If I was his AD, I'd be pissed.

bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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bear2be2 said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

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I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

---

I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

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No one else has dominated UCF the way we did ... on their home field. Our next opponent most certainly didn't.

We can have a serious talk about our last two opponents without denigrating two good wins.

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If you want to give Klanderman the job for dominating UCF, you have low standards. I'm not "denigrating" anything, that's such a weird comment.

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I'm going to give him due credit for winning those games in the fashion he did, and wait and see how the next three play out.

But trying to downplay Klanderman's performance to date is dumb. He's done better than anyone could have possibly expected.

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I'm not downplaying or denigrating anything. Remember, the context here is his resume and whether he deserves this job moreso than any other given candidate

Bottom line with me for Klanderman is that he really needs to impress if he wants this job, and while I'm pleased with how we're playing so far, it takes more than a win vs UCF and Iowa State to impress me. Baylor desperately needs a coach that can punch above his weight. I don't see wins versus UCF or Iowa State as demonstrating that. I'm sorry. But hey, I'm not the decision-maker here. To be honest, I would bet right now that we probably do hire him, but it will be more for financial reasons than anything

Here's my thoughts on Klanderman as a candidate in general:

There are plenty of examples of position coaches and coordinators being promoted to head coach with little to no head coaching experience, or with head coaching experience that was middling at best, and it work out just well: Dabo Swinney, Lincoln Riley, Ed Orgeron come to mind.

So I'm not opposed to the idea of considering promoting Klanderman, if the team finishes the year strong, and there's buzz on the recruiting trail that people want to come play for him (high school and transfer portal).

HOWEVER, all of those coaches I mentioned had their success in a different era of college football. As others have noted, the role of a head coach has changed some in terms of roster management, NIL budget, etc. So you have to consider all of that when thinking about promoting someone with no head coaching experience.

Formerly, if you had a guy who was leading the team to wins and the players liked playing for him and you felt that he could get recruits - a promotion made sense. But those are no longer the only factors, so I'm not sure you can base the decision only upon how the team performs under his limited time as head coach.

While I'm open to the idea of Klanderman, to me, it should be lower down the list than hiring a head coach from somewhere else that has more experience sitting in the head seat under this current era of college football.

Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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Billy Bolls said:

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Timbear said:

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I challenge anyone to name even ONE aspect of or objective that a successful HC exhibits and performs that Kland is not doing. He:
Organizes,
Game plans,
Communicates exceptionally well before, during and after games.
Motivates the players mentally and physically ,
Excellent pregame prep,
Proven ability to make in game adjustments ,
Is a player's coach while establishing a tough no nonsense culture.
2-0 against teams coming off of their best performance.
Allowing himself and other players and coaches to be on multiple talk shows to talk about this amazing place called Baylor.

---

I'll be sold on all those things when we beat one or two of these upcoming opponents that we're really not supposed to beat on paper.

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I would agree, but should the goalposts be moved to only hire a current coaching candidate who has beaten, this year, 2-3 top 10 or top 15 teams, In A Row?!? That's ridiculous.
What other current Baylor coaching candidate being considered right now, could do that? Nobody!
The stupid incompetent Aranda has warped us all So Bad that we're totally unreasonable.

---

I'm definitely not under the delusion that we're hiring somebody who's gotten multiple top 20 wins under his belt this year. But I think we can do better than a coordinator whose qualifications are basically that he's nice and energetic and improved our defense or whatever. Like I said, if he can beat one of BYU/tech, I'll probably be sold.

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I hope so. Please Never say the word Nice again when referring to a Baylor coach. He's changed everything about a team that was headed to 4-8, in his first 2days.
Also, he retained All but ONE Commit.
Rah rah is Rhule not Kland
Nice is Dave not Kland. Klan is nice about being Alpha.
Improved the D is going from 110th to 95th. Kland has taken the D from 110th to 17th. Just saying. Team wise, Baylor and BYU are more similar than different.
Would any current coaching candidate be doing any better or as good as Kland?
Everyone is waiting to see if Kland can take a Dave Aranda disaster and beat the #10 team in the Nation who has beaten a top 5 team already this year. Whew. That goal post is 20' high.

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Meh. Iowa State and UCF are not good teams. We played both of them when they were coming off the high of beating ranked teams, which was basically their Super Bowls this year. I'm never gonna knock a win, but I don't consider those prestigious "resume" wins by any means.

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How can u possibly think that what Kland has done so far has been easy?

I agree https://t.co/gNtickWUM4

— Chris Platt Jr. (@chrisplatt14) November 11, 2026

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