That's a lot of women willing to publicly testify they were raped. I don't think any of them knew each other. This was a couple of years before the scandal feeding frenzy so there was no monetary incentive to come forward.

If it was just the one girl it might be easier to have doubt...but that's a lot of ladies.

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That's a lot of women willing to publicly testify they were raped. I don't think any of them knew each other. This was a couple of years before the scandal feeding frenzy so there was no monetary incentive to come forward.

If it was just the one girl it might be easier to have doubt...but that's a lot of ladies.

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Two knew each other .Darling didn't bother mentioning this fact .
Another hooked up with Elliott when he was a sophomore in high school and she was a student at Baylor .
Read the police reports on some of these . They are ludicrous .
Elliott was popular with the ladies . Until he wasn't

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This has been a fascinating thread to read. I appreciate the civil conversation. From what several people are posting, there looks like there actually is a good chance Elliot's conviction was not beyond reasonable doubt. Plus it's fun to see Keyser get corrected repeatedly.

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Hell I've been beating the drums on this Elliott story for a year and a half . Must have been the language barrier .

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Mainly you've been beating a horse with the laughable agenda that Sam U and Elliott will exonerate Briles.

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This has been a fascinating thread to read. I appreciate the civil conversation. From what several people are posting, there looks like there actually is a good chance Elliot's conviction was not beyond reasonable doubt. Plus it's fun to see Keyser get corrected repeatedly.

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Hell I've been beating the drums on this Elliott story for a year and a half . Must have been the language barrier .

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Mainly you've been beating a horse with the laughable agenda that Sam U and Elliott will exonerate Briles.

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Briles has really little to do with one or the other at this point. Art has his freedom and gets to enjoy Baylor's $millions. If Elliott or Sam U were not given justice and due process under the law, then each and every one of us should be outraged. The District Attorney in Waco at this point looks like he may be lucky to avoid jail time.

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Toss Reyna off? Are we sure this is what he deserves. Poor choice of words.

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This has been a fascinating thread to read. I appreciate the civil conversation. From what several people are posting, there looks like there actually is a good chance Elliot's conviction was not beyond reasonable doubt. Plus it's fun to see Keyser get corrected repeatedly.

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Hell I've been beating the drums on this Elliott story for a year and a half . Must have been the language barrier .

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Mainly you've been beating a horse with the laughable agenda that Sam U and Elliott will exonerate Briles.

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Briles has really little to do with one or the other at this point. Art has his freedom and gets to enjoy Baylor's $millions. If Elliott or Sam U were not given justice and due process under the law, then each and every one of us should be outraged. The District Attorney in Waco at this point looks like he may be lucky to avoid jail time.

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You're actually right, egads, shame that Robemcd thinks otherwise, his agenda isn't to seek justice for any potential mistreatment in the justice system, he wants to tangent it to Briles, nothing more.

The Trib fires a shot at Abel Reyna

http://www.wacotrib.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-for-all-the-talk-da-reyna-still-ducking-accountability/article_af045e89-061a-5316-a416-37cd35db57e0.html

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MilliVanilli said:

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This has been a fascinating thread to read. I appreciate the civil conversation. From what several people are posting, there looks like there actually is a good chance Elliot's conviction was not beyond reasonable doubt. Plus it's fun to see Keyser get corrected repeatedly.

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Hell I've been beating the drums on this Elliott story for a year and a half . Must have been the language barrier .

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Mainly you've been beating a horse with the laughable agenda that Sam U and Elliott will exonerate Briles.

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Briles has really little to do with one or the other at this point. Art has his freedom and gets to enjoy Baylor's $millions. If Elliott or Sam U were not given justice and due process under the law, then each and every one of us should be outraged. The District Attorney in Waco at this point looks like he may be lucky to avoid jail time.

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You're actually right, egads, shame that Robemcd thinks otherwise, his agenda isn't to seek justice for any potential mistreatment in the justice system, he wants to tangent it to Briles, nothing more.

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Maybe you should go and ask these two individuals what they think of my defence of their innocence. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

And the hits keep on coming for good ole Abel. Anyone here contributing to the campaign of his challenger in the March Republican primary?

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/attorney-files-motion-seeking-sanctions-against-da-reyna/article_52803e21-f06b-50f6-8992-7ff8fc897a1a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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And the hits keep on coming for good ole Abel. Anyone here contributing to the campaign of his challenger in the March Republican primary?

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/attorney-files-motion-seeking-sanctions-against-da-reyna/article_52803e21-f06b-50f6-8992-7ff8fc897a1a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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he gone.

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And the hits keep on coming for good ole Abel. Anyone here contributing to the campaign of his challenger in the March Republican primary?

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/attorney-files-motion-seeking-sanctions-against-da-reyna/article_52803e21-f06b-50f6-8992-7ff8fc897a1a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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he gone.

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Hopefully gone to the hoosegow

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And the hits keep on coming for good ole Abel. Anyone here contributing to the campaign of his challenger in the March Republican primary?

http://www.wacotrib.com/news/courts_and_trials/attorney-files-motion-seeking-sanctions-against-da-reyna/article_52803e21-f06b-50f6-8992-7ff8fc897a1a.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=user-share

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The Twin Peaks case is going to end up with McLennan County paying a lot of money to the Cossacks and Banditos from a 1983 suit, and likely with the DA's office under federal supervision.

Perhaps Abel Reyna will end up like this guy and will have to declare bankruptcy due to liabilities of over $180.3 million:

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Perhaps Abel Reyna will end up like this guy and will have to declare bankruptcy due to liabilities of over $180.3 million:

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That dirtbag mike nifong got paid vacation compared to what's going to happen to Reyna

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80sBEAR said:

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MilliVanilli said:

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This has been a fascinating thread to read. I appreciate the civil conversation. From what several people are posting, there looks like there actually is a good chance Elliot's conviction was not beyond reasonable doubt. Plus it's fun to see Keyser get corrected repeatedly.

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Hell I've been beating the drums on this Elliott story for a year and a half . Must have been the language barrier .

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Mainly you've been beating a horse with the laughable agenda that Sam U and Elliott will exonerate Briles.

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Briles has really little to do with one or the other at this point. Art has his freedom and gets to enjoy Baylor's $millions. If Elliott or Sam U were not given justice and due process under the law, then each and every one of us should be outraged. The District Attorney in Waco at this point looks like he may be lucky to avoid jail time.

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You're actually right, egads, shame that Robemcd thinks otherwise, his agenda isn't to seek justice for any potential mistreatment in the justice system, he wants to tangent it to Briles, nothing more.

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Maybe you should go and ask these two individuals what they think of my defence of their innocence. You don't have a clue what you are talking about.

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You couldn't care less about these two men, guilty or innocent if you didn't have some warped fantasy that it would exonerate a disgraced football coach.

You're not interested in actual justice, you just harbor a daydream that that Sam U and Elliott will somehow exonerate Briles, and they won't.

Hey Mods, you may have deleted Milli's previous version of garbage where he viciously attacked a poster (along with my innocuous comment about it), but that isn't going to stop him, as you can plainly see from his replacement post. The profound negative effect that he has on this forum cannot be more obvious, when after 10 pages of clear-headed back and forth discussion, a thread can be commandeered by someone whose primary literary device is the personal affront. Why must we continue to be subjected to the constant indignities of his bilge, where he injects his unprovoked attacks upon posters who have made nothing more threatening than to simply have an indirect dissent from his point of view? Can you not find some way to put an end to this nonsense?

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Hey Mods, you may have deleted Milli's previous version of garbage where he viciously attacked a poster (along with my innocuous comment about it), but that isn't going to stop him, as you can plainly see from his replacement post. The profound negative effect that he has on this forum cannot be more obvious, when after 10 pages of clear-headed back and forth discussion, a thread can be commandeered by someone whose primary literary device is the personal affront. Why must we continue to be subjected to the constant indignities of his bilge, where he injects his unprovoked attacks upon posters who have made nothing more threatening than to simply have an indirect dissent from his point of view? Can you not find some way to put an end to this nonsense?

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Do you ever post about anything other than your pearl clutching?

It seems to be you who can't stand a divergent viewpoint.

You know what the end to your pain is? Stop posting yourself or use the ignore button.

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Hey Mods, you may have deleted Milli's previous version of garbage where he viciously attacked a poster (along with my innocuous comment about it), but that isn't going to stop him, as you can plainly see from his replacement post. The profound negative effect that he has on this forum cannot be more obvious, when after 10 pages of clear-headed back and forth discussion, a thread can be commandeered by someone whose primary literary device is the personal affront. Why must we continue to be subjected to the constant indignities of his bilge, where he injects his unprovoked attacks upon posters who have made nothing more threatening than to simply have an indirect dissent from his point of view? Can you not find some way to put an end to this nonsense?

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Agree. Mods, is he a financial investor in your site such that he gets a pass?

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Hey Mods, you may have deleted Milli's previous version of garbage where he viciously attacked a poster (along with my innocuous comment about it), but that isn't going to stop him, as you can plainly see from his replacement post. The profound negative effect that he has on this forum cannot be more obvious, when after 10 pages of clear-headed back and forth discussion, a thread can be commandeered by someone whose primary literary device is the personal affront. Why must we continue to be subjected to the constant indignities of his bilge, where he injects his unprovoked attacks upon posters who have made nothing more threatening than to simply have an indirect dissent from his point of view? Can you not find some way to put an end to this nonsense?

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Agree. Mods, is he a financial investor in your site such that he gets a pass?

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What are you offended by, stop and ask yourself why your daily regimen consists of gnashing your teeth over an internet poster who has said nothing inaccurate in this thread.

Why are you unraveled daily to stopping your life because you can't function because of posts you volitionally read?

You've simply cried wolf far too many times,

Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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If all milli did was mock one guy, it would still be a violation of the site's TOS, but he or she is toxic across virtually all posts and threads. You should not be making excuses for that.

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Hey Mods, you may have deleted Milli's previous version of garbage where he viciously attacked a poster (along with my innocuous comment about it), but that isn't going to stop him, as you can plainly see from his replacement post. The profound negative effect that he has on this forum cannot be more obvious, when after 10 pages of clear-headed back and forth discussion, a thread can be commandeered by someone whose primary literary device is the personal affront. Why must we continue to be subjected to the constant indignities of his bilge, where he injects his unprovoked attacks upon posters who have made nothing more threatening than to simply have an indirect dissent from his point of view? Can you not find some way to put an end to this nonsense?

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Agree. Mods, is he a financial investor in your site such that he gets a pass?

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What are you offended by, stop and ask yourself why your daily regimen consists of gnashing your teeth over an internet poster who has said nothing inaccurate in this thread.

Why are you unraveled daily to stopping your life because you can't function because of posts you volitionally read?

You've simply cried wolf far too many times,

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Your temper tantrums are rivaled only by 3 year olds who don't get what they want at the grocery store and that schtick is past old and worn out. Your posts are the very definition of unhinged due to your non-existent self awareness and lack of anything additive other than demeaning and vile posts against the poster.

Given your near daily unprovoked obsession and name calling of the same Internet poster it seems you have selective reverence for these rules.

Difference is I don't start threads or hijack threads to incessantly whine about you.

The temper tantrums are all your own, you just gave us yet another one about your obsession with an Internet poster, rinse and repeat.

Blocking him was the best thing i've Done on this site. He can trash talk my mom, sister or wife all he wants.

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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If you want to have a debate over someone's position, then have that debate. Don't incessantly disparage that person to the point of inserting yourself into a perfectly civil discussion for the sole purpose of extending a personal attack on that person. What he said the first time was both vile and loathsome, but after having that post deleted, he couldn't resist coming back and making another attack against the same poster (and then being disingenuous on top of that and making edits after he was called out again, so that he could make a defensive post claiming to only be telling the truth).

He likes to use the excuse that everyone is so silly to be offended by what an internet poster says. Yet, he is the one that follows posters around badgering them and making sure he has the last response in any exchange. And his obsession is so fanatical, that even when he is suspended or banned, he will find some way around that obstacle just so that he can continue his compulsion. He continues to troll, flame, use hateful personal characterizations, be invasive of posters' privacy and fill the forum with thousands of these relentless attacks. That's okay with you?

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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You see this is where you start making things up. You have thrown the word EVERY into this claim. I have only claimed those that have accused football players of sexual assault at Baylor in this ordeal are lying and in it for the money. There is plenty of evidence that supports this. Get your stories straight.

So what's your excuse then?

You certainly don't practice what you preach, or is whining your "debate" style?

It's hilarious given your track record that you just tried to accuse another poster of making things up.

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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If all milli did was mock one guy, it would still be a violation of the site's TOS, but he or she is toxic across virtual all posts and threads. You should not be making excuses for that.

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The TOS of this website pale in comparison next to the lack of decency in implying every alleged sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying *****.

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Keyser Soze said:

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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You see this is where you start making things up. You have thrown the word EVERY into this claim. I have only claimed those that have accused football players of sexual assault at Baylor in this ordeal are lying and in it for the money. There is plenty of evidence that supports this. Get your stories straight.

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I will not speak for Rob, nor will I try to explain his real position (which I believe you are exaggerating), but while I believe 0/0/0 to be an absurd assertion, it is suitable mockery for 17/19/4, which was a manifestation for effect. "17/19/4" has no meaning in relation to some "culture" of sexual assault, and in fact, is not even valid in those terms, and was simply created for diversion and shock value.

If 10 people are screaming on the other side of the park, they could just be riding the roller coaster.

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Keyser Soze said:

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Call or imply every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... crickets

Mock the guy who calls or implies every sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying ***** ..... now we have a problem

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If all milli did was mock one guy, it would still be a violation of the site's TOS, but he or she is toxic across virtual all posts and threads. You should not be making excuses for that.

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The TOS of this website pale in comparison next to the lack of decency in implying every alleged sexual assault victim is a money grubbing lying *****.

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"But look what he did!" is a poor excuse. A defense of milli is not a hill worth dying on,.