They aren't going to fire him and pay him a bunch of money he is not earning while paying another coach.
He ll get three seasons.
He ll get three seasons.
xiledinok said:
They aren't going to fire him and pay him a bunch of money he is not earning while paying another coach.
He ll get three seasons.
MidWestBear2010 said:
I'm not sure I want us to win this game, it will just prolong the inevitable of Rhule getting fired. He has had plenty of chances, I don't care how he does against KU, it's time for him to go.
If Baylor wants its fan base back it needs a coach that is innovative that puts out a product that is exciting to watch. Matt is a good guy, and I think he has tons of football knowlege, but his game plan doesn't work at Baylor. We need someone who does things differently and is changing the way football is played. Think along the lines of the coach who never punts.
I agree. Briles recruiting and developing talent should DEFINITELY be used against him. Good call.GoldMind said:Dman said:GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Briles immediately improved results from his predecessor. Can't say I have seen the same from Rhule.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Which year did Art go 1-11?GoldMind said:
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
He immediately improved results by 1 game, it's true.
2007 3-9
2008 4-8
2009 4-8
I see your point. But Rhule had more talent than 1-11. That's all I'm looking at. And he had more talent than Duke. He needs to play up to his talent...regardless of any other previous coach. He'd agree. He needs to improve. And not by 2 games (3 wins). His own expectation was a bowl game this year. I'm hoping he reaches it.
briles had 5 first round picks those first two years
Jason Smith
Danny Watkins
Phil Taylor
RG3
Kendall Wright
Get out of here with the argument that Rhule has more talent.
Doc Holliday said:1-11 is truly unique.bear2be2 said:Are you new to college football? Barring something truly unique, no one fires a coach after two seasons. In a business based on four- and five-year player cycles, it takes three or four years in most cases to find out exactly what you have in a coach.MidWestBear2010 said:Ashley Hodge said:
no agenda except I want to see Baylor do well. Just trying to reason that offensive production through the air is not our biggest issue and that we do play a spread type of system.
I was using total yardage on both sides of those stats. Total points wouldn't yield a much different conclusion. Bottom line is if we get better with the running game, we will have a dynamic offense. And if we also get better on defense, we will have a good team. We have good QBs in the pipeline. I also think we have good OL in the pipeline, just not many of them grown up yet.
Of course I want Rhule to succeed. It is what is best for Baylor's interest. The true Baylor fans on this forum get that. The trolls from other schools or Art Briles only loyalists will not see it that way. They only desire to breed and fuel more chaos.
He's getting paid a lot of money and he is expected to produce now for the money he is getting paid. He's going to get at least 3 years (which he should) no matter what. Let it play out. But don't claim he is stubborn and not running a wide open offense. That is not accurate.
That is a terrible way to run a business. Can you imagine if any other job worked like that. "You are expected to do your job now, but if you don't it's ok we will still give you millions for a few more years and then check back in with you." We are idiots! Conference USA here we come.
2-10/3-9 this season is truly unique.
It could happen.
bear2be2 said:Everyone's paying big money. If you don't think that firing a guy two years after a major scandal would have a negative effect on the way coaches view this job, I don't know what to tell you.Doc Holliday said:Not with the $$$$ we are paying lolHotsauce said:You dilute the next pool of coaching candidates by firing your previous one only 2 years in.MidWestBear2010 said:bear2be2 said:Are you new to college football? Barring something truly unique, no one fires a coach after two seasons. In a business based on four- and five-year player cycles, it takes three or four years in most cases to find out exactly what you have in a coach.MidWestBear2010 said:Ashley Hodge said:
no agenda except I want to see Baylor do well. Just trying to reason that offensive production through the air is not our biggest issue and that we do play a spread type of system.
I was using total yardage on both sides of those stats. Total points wouldn't yield a much different conclusion. Bottom line is if we get better with the running game, we will have a dynamic offense. And if we also get better on defense, we will have a good team. We have good QBs in the pipeline. I also think we have good OL in the pipeline, just not many of them grown up yet.
Of course I want Rhule to succeed. It is what is best for Baylor's interest. The true Baylor fans on this forum get that. The trolls from other schools or Art Briles only loyalists will not see it that way. They only desire to breed and fuel more chaos.
He's getting paid a lot of money and he is expected to produce now for the money he is getting paid. He's going to get at least 3 years (which he should) no matter what. Let it play out. But don't claim he is stubborn and not running a wide open offense. That is not accurate.
That is a terrible way to run a business. Can you imagine if any other job worked like that. "You are expected to do your job now, but if you don't it's ok we will still give you millions for a few more years and then check back in with you." We are idiots! Conference USA here we come.
LOL! What a follower you are. "No one does x so we shouldn't either." God forbid we do something different than others. Has that mentality actually gotten you anywhere in life?
GoldMind said:Dman said:GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Briles immediately improved results from his predecessor. Can't say I have seen the same from Rhule.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Which year did Art go 1-11?GoldMind said:
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
He immediately improved results by 1 game, it's true.
2007 3-9
2008 4-8
2009 4-8
I see your point. But Rhule had more talent than 1-11. That's all I'm looking at. And he had more talent than Duke. He needs to play up to his talent...regardless of any other previous coach. He'd agree. He needs to improve. And not by 2 games (3 wins). His own expectation was a bowl game this year. I'm hoping he reaches it.
briles had 5 first round picks those first two years
Jason Smith
Danny Watkins
Phil Taylor
RG3
Kendall Wright
Get out of here with the argument that Rhule has more talent.
Dman said:GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Briles immediately improved results from his predecessor. Can't say I have seen the same from Rhule.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Which year did Art go 1-11?GoldMind said:
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
He immediately improved results by 1 game, it's true.
2007 3-9
2008 4-8
2009 4-8
I see your point. But Rhule had more talent than 1-11. That's all I'm looking at. And he had more talent than Duke. He needs to play up to his talent...regardless of any other previous coach. He'd agree. He needs to improve. And not by 2 games (3 wins). His own expectation was a bowl game this year. I'm hoping he reaches it.
trey3216 said:Dman said:GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Briles immediately improved results from his predecessor. Can't say I have seen the same from Rhule.GoldMind said:Oldbear83 said:Which year did Art go 1-11?GoldMind said:
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
Took 3 years to have a winning team, that's what seems to matter to most people.
He immediately improved results by 1 game, it's true.
2007 3-9
2008 4-8
2009 4-8
I see your point. But Rhule had more talent than 1-11. That's all I'm looking at. And he had more talent than Duke. He needs to play up to his talent...regardless of any other previous coach. He'd agree. He needs to improve. And not by 2 games (3 wins). His own expectation was a bowl game this year. I'm hoping he reaches it.
Well, ya see, Rhule doesn't play in the game. He didn't drop 7 passes. He didn't light up his own teammate and allow a touchdown. He didn't forget to block the same guy twice and allow him to affect 2 field goals.
It was hard to believe we'd get someone worse than Dave Roberts when we fired him after 2 seasons. We got Kevin Steele.Krieg said:bear2be2 said:Everyone's paying big money. If you don't think that firing a guy two years after a major scandal would have a negative effect on the way coaches view this job, I don't know what to tell you.Doc Holliday said:Not with the $$$$ we are paying lolHotsauce said:You dilute the next pool of coaching candidates by firing your previous one only 2 years in.MidWestBear2010 said:bear2be2 said:Are you new to college football? Barring something truly unique, no one fires a coach after two seasons. In a business based on four- and five-year player cycles, it takes three or four years in most cases to find out exactly what you have in a coach.MidWestBear2010 said:Ashley Hodge said:
no agenda except I want to see Baylor do well. Just trying to reason that offensive production through the air is not our biggest issue and that we do play a spread type of system.
I was using total yardage on both sides of those stats. Total points wouldn't yield a much different conclusion. Bottom line is if we get better with the running game, we will have a dynamic offense. And if we also get better on defense, we will have a good team. We have good QBs in the pipeline. I also think we have good OL in the pipeline, just not many of them grown up yet.
Of course I want Rhule to succeed. It is what is best for Baylor's interest. The true Baylor fans on this forum get that. The trolls from other schools or Art Briles only loyalists will not see it that way. They only desire to breed and fuel more chaos.
He's getting paid a lot of money and he is expected to produce now for the money he is getting paid. He's going to get at least 3 years (which he should) no matter what. Let it play out. But don't claim he is stubborn and not running a wide open offense. That is not accurate.
That is a terrible way to run a business. Can you imagine if any other job worked like that. "You are expected to do your job now, but if you don't it's ok we will still give you millions for a few more years and then check back in with you." We are idiots! Conference USA here we come.
LOL! What a follower you are. "No one does x so we shouldn't either." God forbid we do something different than others. Has that mentality actually gotten you anywhere in life?
We could hire someone, and it's hard to believe we'd get someone that would start worse than 3-13.