Hey there xiled! Is that a propane tank in your pants or are you just happy to see me?

https://newzparot.com/oklahoma-man-arrested-after-allegedly-trying-to-hide-propane-tank-in-his-pants-at-walmart/

Timbear, how is the Italian Pizza Inn League going this afternoon? There's other football occurring related to Baylor happening at the indoor facility.
How are the bread sticks and day old spaghetti at the Chuck E Cheese watch party this afternoon?

Rd2eatPizza, propane boy is probably planning to cook crank and put it on his pizza.

Dman said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

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.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

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In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

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You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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You will NEVER get a paid shill like Keyser to put any fault on our failed BOR. Ever. His role is unidirectional. Spin, defend, protect...at all costs. Even his integrity. He's a one trick pony.

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Why do you continue with this narrative? Do you think it helps Baylor somehow?

Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

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.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

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In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

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You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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What policy was wrong?

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Ask Patty Crawford. She's explained it thoroughly.

No she didn't

TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

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.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

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In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

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You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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What policy was wrong?

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Ask Patty Crawford. She's explained it thoroughly.

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You really don't have an answer .... which is what I expected from you

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

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.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

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In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

---

You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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You will NEVER get a paid shill like Keyser to put any fault on our failed BOR. Ever. His role is unidirectional. Spin, defend, protect...at all costs. Even his integrity. He's a one trick pony.

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Why do you continue with this narrative? Do you think it helps Baylor somehow?

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Absolutely. Spotlighting accountability and change at the highest level and calling out shills who still to this day defend failure and ineptitude for our university is the definition of helping Baylor. Wanting more of the same is absurdity.

But thanks.

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Well that is a noble cause. Has not change been made already though? If not, what are your concerns? It appears we have a competent president with an enlightened BOR who are working together in concert for the good of the university.

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Anyway, hopefully we can re-rail this discussion back toward Oakman. I am guessing this means the NFL is out of the question for him? Why? Age? Skill level? The accusations (of theft, grabbing a cashier by the wrist, GF abuse, GF rape)? Some combination of talent, age and accusations?

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This is basically an NFL tryout "league."

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Keyser, everybody knows that for years, prior to Briles, the BOR was not allowing the reporting of SA in order to keep the Christian University thing going. Then when everything hits the fan under Briles, they cover up their part in it by scapegoating Art.

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Do you have proof?

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Timbear said:

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Keyser, everybody knows that for years, prior to Briles, the BOR was not allowing the reporting of SA in order to keep the Christian University thing going. Then when everything hits the fan under Briles, they cover up their part in it by scapegoating Art.

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Do you have proof?

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Of course he does not have proof.

It is just part of the CABers spin that people were out to get football to cover their own sins. You take a snip-it of testimony that about Baylor's prudish 1950 attitude (which was real) and combine that with a few years of zero reports in Clery for three years (which only covers on-campus assaults) ... then run it through the internet version of telephone ..... it become policy of the BOR which of course in nonsense.

Then they call me shill rather than provide any evidence to support their prior statements.

FYI
https://www.aauw.org/article/clery-act-data-analysis/

91 Percent of Colleges Reported Zero Incidents of Rape in 2014

Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

---

.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

---

In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

---

You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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What policy was wrong?

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Ask Patty Crawford. She's explained it thoroughly.

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You really don't have an answer .... which is what I expected from you

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The absence of a well defined policy and protocol. That is the problem.

That is not an answer to the the question asked.

TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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That is not an answer to the the question asked.

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"I never had the authority, the resources, or the independence to do the job appropriately, which the Department of Education writes in its guidance for Title IX coordinators in universities," Crawford said. She said that included being disconnected from meetings and conversations, and the university "making decisions only a Title IX coordinator should make, based on protection for the brand." CBS News

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I agree with many of Crawford's complaints. Do you really think the BOR set a policy to not support the Title IX Coordinator?

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

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.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

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In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

---

You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

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You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

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You will NEVER get a paid shill like Keyser to put any fault on our failed BOR. Ever. His role is unidirectional. Spin, defend, protect...at all costs. Even his integrity. He's a one trick pony.

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Why do you continue with this narrative? Do you think it helps Baylor somehow?

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Absolutely. Spotlighting accountability and change at the highest level and calling out shills who still to this day defend failure and ineptitude for our university is the definition of helping Baylor. Wanting more of the same is absurdity.

But thanks.

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Well that is a noble cause. Has not change been made already though? If not, what are your concerns? It appears we have a competent president with an enlightened BOR who are working together in concert for the good of the university.

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These weren't people who stepped up and made changes on their own. They were called out and publicly shamed for their failure as a governing body. Changes were only made AFTER their ineptitude and utter failure was spotlighted for the entire nation to see and even called out by very influential alumni. Some of whom are now on the BoR. So yes, some changes have been made. But shills like Keyser defended the old BoR and it's antiquated system. From day one he said there was nothing to see. No blame or accountability needed. From Day 1 on Baylor fans he ripped those alumi apart for demanding changes, transparency, and accountability that have forced what few meaningful changes we have seen today. He excused their behavior. He said "all is well...more please".

So, you can blindly accept all is well regardless of VERY current past history and say that's being a true Baylor fan. I'd argue the exact opposite. A true Baylor fan will distrust this BoR and demand accountability and transparency for YEARS to come until proven otherwise. Shills like Keyser will spend even more years of his life trying to convince us otherwise.

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They were called out?

The call out was Texas Monthly in August 2015. You can read it for yourself here

https://www.texasmonthly.com/article/silence-at-baylor/

A Texas court found Sam U guilty despite Baylor not doing the same using a much lower burden of proof as required by a T9 investigation. The article was all over Briles and football .... not a peep about the regents.

After this article Pepper was hired.

Don't let any of this detract from your narrative.

Dman said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

---

.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

---

In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

---

You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

---

You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

---

You will NEVER get a paid shill like Keyser to put any fault on our failed BOR. Ever. His role is unidirectional. Spin, defend, protect...at all costs. Even his integrity. He's a one trick pony.

---

Why do you continue with this narrative? Do you think it helps Baylor somehow?

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Absolutely. Spotlighting accountability and change at the highest level and calling out shills who still to this day defend failure and ineptitude for our university is the definition of helping Baylor. Wanting more of the same is absurdity.

But thanks.

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Well that is a noble cause. Has not change been made already though? If not, what are your concerns? It appears we have a competent president with an enlightened BOR who are working together in concert for the good of the university.

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These weren't people who stepped up and made changes on their own. They were called out and publicly shamed for their failure as a governing body. Changes were only made AFTER their ineptitude and utter failure was spotlighted for the entire nation to see and even called out by very influential alumni. Some of whom are now on the BoR. So yes, some changes have been made. But shills like Keyser defended the old BoR and it's antiquated system. From day one he said there was nothing to see. No blame or accountability needed. From Day 1 on Baylor fans he ripped those alumi apart for demanding changes, transparency, and accountability that have forced what few meaningful changes we have seen today. He excused their behavior. He said "all is well...more please".

So, you can blindly accept all is well regardless of VERY current past history and say that's being a true Baylor fan. I'd argue the exact opposite. A true Baylor fan will distrust this BoR and demand accountability and transparency for YEARS to come until proven otherwise. Shills like Keyser will spend even more years of his life trying to convince us otherwise.

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They were called out?

The call out was Texas Monthly in August 2015. You can read it for yourself here

https://www.texasmonthly.com/article/silence-at-baylor/

A Texas court found Sam U guilty despite Baylor not doing the same using a much lower burden of proof as required by a T9 investigation. The article was all over Briles and football .... not a peep about the regents.

After this article Pepper was hired.

Don't let any of this detract from your narrative.

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Who has a narrative? That's your spin..day after day..year after year...that this was ALL football. It has defined your intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy, and double standard. Good god you're the living breathing definition of a SHILL.

Our school was embarrassed on a national stage. The problem was Much bigger than just football. That's a FACT. Your never ending need to re-write this fact is absurd. Our BoR only made the changes they made because they were under a microscope and embattled in legal proceedings, many outside of football for their previous failures. Period. Not one current reform was already in the works or would have been made otherwise. There's only one narrative. Yours. Defending and excusing the absolute failures of some of those who you have admitted are personal relationships.

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Pepper's findings of fact, as set forth in greater detail in this statement, reflect a fundamental failure by Baylor to implement Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972 (Title IX) and the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act of 2013 (VAWA). Pepper found that Baylor's efforts to implement Title IX were slow, ad hoc, and hindered by a lack of institutional support and engagement by senior leadership.

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No one has said it is all about football. The only people to cry "it's all about football" is football and their shills.

Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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SATXBear said:

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Dman said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Doc Holliday said:

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The real tragedy in the entire scandal is the garbage known as Title IX.

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Schools shouldn't be in the business of receiving assault complaints and acting upon them. That should fall within the purview of the DA's office.

---

.... because the Tevin Elliotts of the world need a safe college campus to hang out for 12 - 24 months before their trial

---

In our system of government, justice is better served with criminal enforcement actions brought through the prosecutorial system. When you try to create a quasi government enforcement alternative route, you get problems like Baylor. Universities are not law enforcement agencies. We have restraining orders, and we have school suspension/expulsion rules for people like Tevin.

---

You do realize outside of mandatory help given to victims, ie) counselors, academic accommodations, the right to retake a class - all the T9 suspension rules are not particularly different that student conduct code policies which have been around forever.

When Shillinglaw / Briles did not report the alleged assault by Oakman to Title IX - they also failed to report student conduct code violations. They did not just fail newer Title IX policy, the failed School policy which was in effect long before either Shillinglaw or Briles were hired.

There is not a school in the country that is going to keep a known rapist on their campus with or without T9.

---

You're making my point. Schools shouldn't be burdened with Title IX. Glad you realize Baylor had a failed school policy long before Briles. Shouldn't the BOR be held accountable for that?

---

You will NEVER get a paid shill like Keyser to put any fault on our failed BOR. Ever. His role is unidirectional. Spin, defend, protect...at all costs. Even his integrity. He's a one trick pony.

---

Why do you continue with this narrative? Do you think it helps Baylor somehow?

---

Absolutely. Spotlighting accountability and change at the highest level and calling out shills who still to this day defend failure and ineptitude for our university is the definition of helping Baylor. Wanting more of the same is absurdity.

But thanks.

---

Well that is a noble cause. Has not change been made already though? If not, what are your concerns? It appears we have a competent president with an enlightened BOR who are working together in concert for the good of the university.

---

These weren't people who stepped up and made changes on their own. They were called out and publicly shamed for their failure as a governing body. Changes were only made AFTER their ineptitude and utter failure was spotlighted for the entire nation to see and even called out by very influential alumni. Some of whom are now on the BoR. So yes, some changes have been made. But shills like Keyser defended the old BoR and it's antiquated system. From day one he said there was nothing to see. No blame or accountability needed. From Day 1 on Baylor fans he ripped those alumi apart for demanding changes, transparency, and accountability that have forced what few meaningful changes we have seen today. He excused their behavior. He said "all is well...more please".

So, you can blindly accept all is well regardless of VERY current past history and say that's being a true Baylor fan. I'd argue the exact opposite. A true Baylor fan will distrust this BoR and demand accountability and transparency for YEARS to come until proven otherwise. Shills like Keyser will spend even more years of his life trying to convince us otherwise.

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You two obviously have a history. I am just happy that administrative changes were made to improve things.

Sounds like Santa and the Easter Bunny are your sources.

Keyser Soze said:

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Sounds like Santa and the Easter Bunny are your sources.

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The former regime has as much credibility as the tooth fairy and is not respected outside the robe touching community. The rest of Power 5 laughs at their endless excuses.

Keyser Soze said:

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Sounds like Santa and the Easter Bunny are your sources.

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Close. X wears a Santa suit in shopping malls from Jan thru mid November. But no one calls him Santa.
X is my source.

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Keyser Soze said:

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Sounds like Santa and the Easter Bunny are your sources.

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Close. X wears a Santa suit in shopping malls from Jan thru mid November. But no one calls him Santa.
X is my source.

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My aryan appeal hits the mall about twice a year. You actually go to a shopping mall where people are loitering?

I bet we can get a certain O line coach a job as Santa at a few places this Christmas. Offseason opportunity. Car wash Santa.

TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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That is not an answer to the the question asked.

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"I never had the authority, the resources, or the independence to do the job appropriately, which the Department of Education writes in its guidance for Title IX coordinators in universities," Crawford said. She said that included being disconnected from meetings and conversations, and the university "making decisions only a Title IX coordinator should make, based on protection for the brand." CBS News

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I agree with many of Crawford's complaints. Do you really think the BOR set a policy to not support the Title IX Coordinator?

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I believe the BOR didn't establish a policy with protocols that would effectively implement Title IX (either overtly and/or by omission). I further believe that the administration, and ultimately the BOR, essentially had an unwritten policy of denial, to do what it could to cover up negative events, in order to prevent negative public exposure to protect the school's image and reputation as a "Christian" school that is essentially free from this type of crime.

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Your first sentence is accurate. There were failures at every level. Starr, the employee and CEO was ultimately responsible for the details.

There was plenty about protecting the brand in what was released to the public. This is a huge reason Briles was paid for his silence.

I really don't believe the unwritten rule as you say at all though it is easy to see how people would make that assertion. Old school attitudes along with lack of training made people made people unaware and insensitive to a fault. Not speaking of you but there are a lot of posters on this site that are unaware and insensitive to a fault.

Here is how this happened as described in the book Violated. Girl goes to counselor and says she was assaulted after being really drunk at a party. The counselor explains a he said she said is hard to go forward and that girl may have her own honor code problems about the drinking. The counselor's sincere intent was to help the girl - but there was no question the end result was suppressing reporting of assaults. This was a complex cultural problem that permeated all levels.

FYI - one of the 105 recommendations implemented was amnesty for any victim coming forward was well as any potential witness. Also a side note on police chief Doak - this was a sorry individual and the most overt at discouraging victims - the more subtle untrained counselor above was more the norm.

TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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TexasScientist said:

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Keyser Soze said:

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That is not an answer to the the question asked.

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"I never had the authority, the resources, or the independence to do the job appropriately, which the Department of Education writes in its guidance for Title IX coordinators in universities," Crawford said. She said that included being disconnected from meetings and conversations, and the university "making decisions only a Title IX coordinator should make, based on protection for the brand." CBS News

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I agree with many of Crawford's complaints. Do you really think the BOR set a policy to not support the Title IX Coordinator?

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I believe the BOR didn't establish a policy with protocols that would effectively implement Title IX (either overtly and/or by omission). I further believe that the administration, and ultimately the BOR, essentially had an unwritten policy of denial, to do what it could to cover up negative events, in order to prevent negative public exposure to protect the school's image and reputation as a "Christian" school that is essentially free from this type of crime.

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Your first sentence is accurate. There were failures at every level. Starr, the employee and CEO was ultimately responsible for the details.

There was plenty about protecting the brand in what was released to the public. This is a huge reason Briles was paid for his silence.

I really don't believe the unwritten rule as you say at all though it is easy to see how people would make that assertion. Old school attitudes along with lack of training made people made people unaware and insensitive to a fault. Not speaking of you but there are a lot of posters on this site that are unaware and insensitive to a fault.

Here is how this happened as described in the book Violated. Girl goes to counselor and says she was assaulted after being really drunk at a party. The counselor explains a he said she said is hard to go forward and that girl may have her own honor code problems about the drinking. The counselor's sincere intent was to help the girl - but there was no question the end result was suppressing reporting of assaults. This was a complex cultural problem that permeated all levels.

FYI - one of the 105 recommendations implemented was amnesty for any victim coming forward was well as any potential witness. Also a side note on police chief Doak - this was a sorry individual and the most overt at discouraging victims - the more subtle untrained counselor above was more the norm.

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If all of this rose to the level of requiring resignations, then it certainly should have included the BOR. The buck should have ended with them.

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Which BOR? Plenty to fault, the vast majority of which had nothing to with the 2016 group that actually pushed the changes for the better. The 2019 BOR is even more detached and is operating under a many new guidelines. Many of the standards football fans think should be imposed would also create a system where a BOR would have incentive to collude with a Starr or Briles to keep things from ever being fixed - I suspect many would have been very happy for that to happen though they wouldn't say it.

Resignations / terminations were primarily those that withheld information from investigators.