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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

September 19, 2020
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Updated Saturday, Sept. 19, 2020 at 2:41 p.m. CT.

Less than 24 hours ahead of a football contest between Baylor University and the University of Houston scheduled for Saturday inside McLane Stadium, the game was postponed because of COVID-19 concerns, sources tell SicEm365.

According to a source close to the Baylor program, the Bears would have been without a significant portion of a single position group making it unsafe to play. That information was the driving factor behind the cancellation which correlates with the Big 12 protocols that have several specific personnel thresholds a team must meet for certain position groups as well as the entire roster. 

Big 12 teams must have at least 53 players available to play, a minimum of seven offensive linemen and four interior defensive linemen, and at least a single quarterback. Baylor Director of Athletics Mack Rhoades told SicEm365 on Friday afternoon that Baylor did not meet the threshold for one of the specific positions, but did not confirm which position.  

Following the original report on Friday afternoon, SicEm365 spoke with an official from the City of Waco who confirmed it was not a local government decision that postponed the game, citing that because Baylor University is as a private institution, they do not have jurisdiction over the Big 12 program.

The official also clarified that Waco had merely adopted CDC and state protocols and not implemented their own, meaning any protocols that Baylor might be following were not from the local level. Baylor was and continues to be responsible for conducting their own contact tracing, according to the official, not the city.

According to the CDC website, “state and local public health officials will decide how to implement” guidelines put forth by the CDC and are also responsible for advising “specific people, or groups of people, to be tested.” 

Even with all of the guidelines put in place in weeks and month prior, the decision to postpone the game came with extreme frustration.

Specifically, the ultimate factor behind the postponement of the game was a result of contact tracing, not positive results of conducted COVID-19 tests on football players and staff members. Because of the guidelines followed, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game as a direct result of contact tracing and not due to positive COVID-19 tests, the source said.

Several Baylor players that were set to miss the game did not receive a single positive test, and despite also receiving multiple negative tests in the same time frame, were not allowed to return to team activities because of regulations in place for contact tracing.

Big 12 programs are required to test athletes three times during game weeks to best monitor developing cases. Because of the league guideline in place, multiple Baylor players were set to miss the game against Houston despite the potential of having up to six negative COVID-19 tests over the last two weeks.

On Saturday, following the original release of the report, a source close to Baylor Athletics confirmed to SicEm365 that there were instances of players in contact tracing protocols who tested negative multiple times after coming in contact with an individual who had previously tested positive. Those players were not knowingly exposed to any positive testing persons again. 

An additional frustration, according to a source close to Baylor Athletics, comes from the inability to retest athletes who test positive for COVID-19. The inability to retest prevents checking for false-positive results which have been a regular occurrence when testing for the virus.

Per a release on Sept. 14, Baylor’s athletic department has had 88 positive tests across multiple sports since the beginning of June. Of those, six were currently active including two asymptomatic cases and four symptomatic. According to the release, a total of 23 athletes and staff members across all sports were being monitored for potential cases. 

The news comes less than seven days after Big 12 program and the American Athletic Conference program agreed to play in Waco on Saturday. The programs lost games against Louisiana Tech and Memphis over COVID-19 concerns and the mutual open date was utilized to schedule to game. 

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Update: Waco official tells SicEm365 the city had no involvement in postponement decision

72,691 Views | 151 Replies | Last: 4 yr ago by RightRevBear
CTbruin
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Methinks it's the prez, not Mack. She is looking for her next gig.
Aliceinbubbleland
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Courtesy_Flush said:

No one cares about Tennessee. Baylor is in Texas. We care about Texas.
I'll never understand this line of thinking. Limiting your interest to one state is what gets you left behind.
Aliceinbubbleland
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CTbruin said:

Methinks it's the prez, not Mack. She is looking for her next gig.
It is not Mack.
BCL79
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Sounds like Baylor needs to tighten up the bubble.
Threebears
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I hate to see the game postponed, but I'm glad BAYLOR is following rules meant to protect the health of their students and athletes.
historian
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It's not Livingstone either. By all reports, it's the Big 12. Maybe those standards are too tight and need to be adjusted for the sake of common sense. But as the saying goes, better to err on the side of caution.
“Incline my heart to your testimonies, and not to selfish gain!”
Psalm 119:36
toughbear
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So Linda looking for a new gig? Cal Berkeley?
CTbruin
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toughbear said:

So Linda looking for a new gig? Cal Berkeley?


Yep. Or Cal in Austin. Or somewhere like
Aliceinbubbleland
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You need better degrees to get to those places. Three from the same place, unless it's Ivy or Stanford, doesn't usually qualify for top tier jobs.

I'd give anything to listen in on the conversations of Big 12 athletic powers that be and hear her input when it comes to athletics. I can see OU and UT and especially ISU winking.
mattisbear
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so many people in this thread that had two kids in the 1980's and havent had sex since.
RightRevBear
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CTWallace said:

Karab said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

CTWallace said:

RightRevBear said:

People on this board have scoffed at previous comments of mine about Covid even though I work in healthcare.

I have a close relative who is a Baylor grad. She is in her mid-20's and in her second year teaching. She is currently hospitalized with Covid-19. She caught it at her school. She is in her mid-20's and does not have other major health issues. Her husband now has it too.

Go ahead call me a snowflake. I don't care. News outlets and politicians from across the spectrum put out false information. What I do know is that people often have to wait to get moved from the emergency department into a room during respiratory season because there aren't rooms available. This is common at hospitals across the nation. It is going to add significant stress to our national healthcare system to care for the Covid patients that we have and the ones with other illnesses this Fall. You can laugh and say it is a hoax, but the 24 year old Baylor grad who is in the hospital because she is struggling to breathe makes you look like a fool.
No idea what your panic porn has to do with cancelling a game between two teams with zero positive tests this week.

I bet you really like bureaucrats.
Because there are idiots in this thread saying it is a hoax. On this very thread people were called leftist because they had differing views. On this very thread it was shown that it is acceptable in this community to dismiss others thoughts by calling them names, instead of actually discussing the issue. You dismissed my thoughts with a statement saying I bet you love bureaucrats. In fact, I do love bureaucrats, because I follow a God who loves everyone. This same God teaches us we should love others too. Now, I don't like bureaucracy, and I think that it often causes waste and harm. I was responding to posts on this thread which is what happens on a message board. I was not responding to the whether or not we can trust tests enough to ignore contact tracing. I was responding to the idiots who have said in this thread that Covid is a joke or a hoax.






You're a lying piece of crap. No one on this thread has said the virus is a hoax. Obviously, many feel the related panic is overblown.

I feel sorry for anyone too stupid to understand the difference.

Try to be more honest and intelligent in the future.
Wow, go back and read the first page before you attack somebody.

On the first page, Trusttheprocess wrote:

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It continues to amaze me how the "sheep" have not yet woken up to the fact that this all is a hoax.
Try to be more intelligent rather than impulsive in the future.

What a slimy scumbag you are.

In that same post, he also wrote "only 701 Deaths related solely to Covid 19 can be attributed to anyone under the age 55" which proves he wasn't calling the virus a hoax but just the panic.

It's a little awkward that you were too stupid and dishonest to understand that without my help.

Why are you so angry? Why can't you treat people with respect who disagree with you? We can have a civil discussion without calling people names. We can discuss what "hoax" refers to without tearing someone down. Why do you feel the need to insult people who disagree with you?

Also, I have heard a disturbing thought on this board and in other places concerning the fact that older people are more likely to die from Covid-19 than younger. Yes, older people are more likely to die from it, but I value their lives too. Is an older person's life any less valuable because they are older?
 
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