This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

Still confused if this was a Baylor failure to follow the process or following a flawed process that tripped up Baylor (but no one else in the big 12?)

Baylor3216 said:

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Still confused if this was a Baylor failure to follow the process or following a flawed process that tripped up Baylor (but no one else in the big 12?)

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THIS!!

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

The Big 12 has established a two tiered cancellation process for conference games with approval from the commissioner:

1. If a Big 12 team has fewer than 53 players available (includes both scholarship players and walk ons) or
2. If a Big 12 team has less than specified amount of players per position group (although the Big 13 team can still choose to play below these marks).

In addition to the two options above for conference games, a Big 12 team can cancel a non-conference game via the terms of that contract, which usually allows them to cancel for a wide variety of events and covid would almost certainly be an option given when the contract was signed.

Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

By the Big 12 protocol rules, they must cancel Kansas because they aren't enough days apart.

Or they can break the stupid ghey rule and put up with a backlash of criticism and cowardice accusations by playing Kansas.

Bottom line, you're still a game short and they're not moving the conference championship,

Which'll it be, Baylor?

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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The Big 12 has established a two tiered cancellation process for conference games with approval from the commissioner:

1. If a Big 12 team has fewer than 53 players available (includes both scholarship players and walk ons) or
2. If a Big 12 team has less than specified amount of players per position group (although the Big 13 team can still choose to play below these marks).

In addition to the two options above for conference games, a Big 12 team can cancel a non-conference game via the terms of that contract, which usually allows them to cancel for a wide variety of events and covid would almost certainly be an option given when the contract was signed.

Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Totally disagree...a win by any margin would have been respectable. Baylor was favored by 4, to say "anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly" is simply wrong. In addition, Baylor would have plenty to gain by playing...these guys need real game experience before heading into conference play.

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It would have hurt due to the Big 12's current reputation this season due to most of the other out of conference games (tough wins vs Tulsa and Houston Baptist and losses to Arkansas State, Louisiana-Lafayette and Coastal Carolina). Posters in this forum have been talking about how great Baylor's going to be this season, and, if Baylor is that great, it should beat even a (very well rested) Houston team by more than 4.

Thank goodness Baylor (and TCU) skipped out on the out of conference games - they weren't worth in the Big 12 unless a team has a 2nd team as good as OU's or UT's that would be good enough to demolish most of the FBS on its own merit.

According to Joel Klatt, Baylor would have had enough OL but your coach refused to move a suspension to another game. Does that mean he's going to try to claim a player was suspended for a cancelled game?

https://gocoogs.com/baylor-cancellation-aranda/

NTXCoog said:

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According to Joel Klatt, Baylor would have had enough OL but your coach refused to move a suspension to another game. Does that mean he's going to try to claim a player was suspended for a cancelled game?

https://gocoogs.com/baylor-cancellation-aranda/

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That player was supposed to be suspended for La Tech too, he will serve his suspension against KU.

BUBear24 said:

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NTXCoog said:

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According to Joel Klatt, Baylor would have had enough OL but your coach refused to move a suspension to another game. Does that mean he's going to try to claim a player was suspended for a cancelled game?

https://gocoogs.com/baylor-cancellation-aranda/

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That player was supposed to be suspended for La Tech too, he will serve his suspension against KU.

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But a La Tech suspension wouldn't have forced a game cancellation. It possibly caused one for UH. If a KU suspension forces another game cancellation/postponement, will it happen?

Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Still in your head???
Glad you still support the only B12 BU championship teams
WPS

NTXCoog said:

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BUBear24 said:

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NTXCoog said:

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According to Joel Klatt, Baylor would have had enough OL but your coach refused to move a suspension to another game. Does that mean he's going to try to claim a player was suspended for a cancelled game?

https://gocoogs.com/baylor-cancellation-aranda/

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That player was supposed to be suspended for La Tech too, he will serve his suspension against KU.

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But a La Tech suspension wouldn't have forced a game cancellation. It possibly caused one for UH. If a KU suspension forces another game cancellation/postponement, will it happen?

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He will still be suspended the game because we are getting 5 players back this week from that position group.

Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Briles still lives rent free in your head?

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Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Briles still lives rent free in your head?

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No. I charge him the same amount he ripped us off for by getting Baylor into trouble with the NCAA, losing bowl revenue, TV $$$$, degrading the value of my degree, etc.

He owes me about $75,000,000 so we have a settlement worked out.

Every alum has a piece in the settlement.

I'm going to make sure you get your part. I've got you down for two tickets to the Baylor Religious Hour Choir performance complete with two Dr. Pepper floats.

Sounds more and more like BEAR every day. Next he'll say he has records.

Thee University said:

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Green&GoldStandard said:

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Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Briles still lives rent free in your head?

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No. I charge him the same amount he ripped us off for by getting Baylor into trouble with the NCAA, losing bowl revenue, TV $$$$, degrading the value of my degree, etc.

He owes me about $75,000,000 so we have a settlement worked out.

Every alum has a piece in the settlement.

I'm going to make sure you get your part. I've got you down for two tickets to the Baylor Religious Hour Choir performance complete with two Dr. Pepper floats.

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Take him to court. You can call the Texas Rangers and the NCAA as your witnesses...oh, wait

Thee University said:

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Green&GoldStandard said:

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Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Briles still lives rent free in your head?

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No. I charge him the same amount he ripped us off for by getting Baylor into trouble with the NCAA, losing bowl revenue, TV $$$$, degrading the value of my degree, etc.

He owes me about $75,000,000 so we have a settlement worked out.

Every alum has a piece in the settlement.

I'm going to make sure you get your part. I've got you down for two tickets to the Baylor Religious Hour Choir performance complete with two Dr. Pepper floats.

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You can choose a jury of your favorite regents

Do you want your tickets to the Baylor Religious Hour Choir and DP float or not?

If you are upset I might throw in a night at the Mt. Vernon Quality Inn and then dinner for two at the Love's Truck Stop or maybe some fried chicken at Chester's.

I know a few of the Regents so it would not be fair.

Thee University said:

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Stranger said:

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longtimebear said:

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This question was raised by ZUNOOREO In another thread and I think it's worth bringing up in a separate thread.
Does anyone have an opinion about this. Hope this is OK ZUNOOREO?

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You just need to trust the process . . . whatever it is that day.

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The real process is in Mt. Vernon. Trust it. Embrace it. Work it. Revere it. Support it.

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Geez!!! I've been away from this site since the end of last Football season, the search and naming of Aranda and of course, COVID... and the second thread I view and you're at it again. For the love of anything normal let it GO.
The scum sucking Media have moved on. COVID, NFL, College, BLM have placed East Texas in the rear view mirror, probably, maybe forever. If he ever makes it to the HS State Championship they might want to push a "come back from the ashes" story which they can enjoy an orgasmic experience over their stellar journalistic self.

For what it's worth, I had a phone conversation with an East Texas BU attorney friend who mentioned Briles was 8-3 last year and 3-0 presently so he's doing fine regardless of your ill feelings toward him. Great, atta'boy, booyah... doesn't have a thing to do with BU, cancellations, game short, etc, etc. That era is looongg gone.

BBWCBear said:

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Geez!!! I've been away from this site since the end of last Football season, the search and naming of Aranda and of course, COVID... and the second thread I view and you're at it again. For the love of anything normal let it GO.
The scum sucking Media have moved on. COVID, NFL, College, BLM have placed East Texas in the rear view mirror, probably, maybe forever. If he ever makes it to the HS State Championship they might want to push a "come back from the ashes" story which they can enjoy an orgasmic experience over their stellar journalistic self.

For what it's worth, I had a phone conversation with an East Texas BU attorney friend who mentioned Briles was 8-3 last year and 3-0 presently so he's doing fine regardless of your ill feelings toward him. Great, atta'boy, booyah... doesn't have a thing to do with BU, cancellations, game short, etc, etc. That era is looongg gone.

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Sorry you got your feelings hurt. I was not talking to you.

In case you have not figured it out by now, I never give up. He left a legacy behind that keeps on "giving". I will give it right back.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

jumpinjoe said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

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If you believe that the potential for an upset didn't play a role in Baylor cancelling the game, I have a bridge to sell you. The game didn't -need- to be cancelled, as Baylor (1) didn't have to cancel the game if it had less than the number of linemen set by the Big 12 (it could have still chosen to play under the Big 12 rules) and (2) Baylor could have unsuspended the suspended lineman so that it could play.

Baylor essentially cancelled the game by choice. I think it was the right decision - as a loss was potentially on the table and a close win would not have impressed anyone.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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jumpinjoe said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

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If you believe that the potential for an upset didn't play a role in Baylor cancelling the game, I have a bridge to sell you. The game didn't -need- to be cancelled, as Baylor (1) didn't have to cancel the game if it had less than the number of linemen set by the Big 12 (it could have still chosen to play under the Big 12 rules) and (2) Baylor could have unsuspended the suspended lineman so that it could play.

Baylor essentially cancelled the game by choice. I think it was the right decision - as a loss was potentially on the table and a close win would not have impressed anyone.

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Except that it didn't. It was canceled because of COVID issues and keeping a player suspended. Rhoades didn't go through all that unprecedented trouble to even get the game on the calendar just to cancel it later because he was scared.

Aberzombie1892 said:

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jumpinjoe said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

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If you believe that the potential for an upset didn't play a role in Baylor cancelling the game, I have a bridge to sell you. The game didn't -need- to be cancelled, as Baylor (1) didn't have to cancel the game if it had less than the number of linemen set by the Big 12 (it could have still chosen to play under the Big 12 rules) and (2) Baylor could have unsuspended the suspended lineman so that it could play.

Baylor essentially cancelled the game by choice. I think it was the right decision - as a loss was potentially on the table and a close win would not have impressed anyone.

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You really didn't think this through. Or you did and you're not too bright.

LTbear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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jumpinjoe said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

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If you believe that the potential for an upset didn't play a role in Baylor cancelling the game, I have a bridge to sell you. The game didn't -need- to be cancelled, as Baylor (1) didn't have to cancel the game if it had less than the number of linemen set by the Big 12 (it could have still chosen to play under the Big 12 rules) and (2) Baylor could have unsuspended the suspended lineman so that it could play.

Baylor essentially cancelled the game by choice. I think it was the right decision - as a loss was potentially on the table and a close win would not have impressed anyone.

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You really didn't think this through. Or you did and you're not too bright.

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Didn't think what through?

There is, by definition, no rule that required Baylor to cancel the game, and, because that is the case, the game was, by definition, cancelled by choice by Baylor. None of that is disputable.

Jesus Aberzombie...are you serious?

Aberzombie1892 said:

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LTbear said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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jumpinjoe said:

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Aberzombie1892 said:

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Is it possible that Baylor cancelled in order to avoid a tough out of conference game given the state of the roster? Sure - Baylor had more to lose than to gain by playing Houston, as anything less than a 3 TD win would have been perceived poorly.

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Talking about clueless...he must have just awakened from a deep sleep.

The Houston game was agreed to only 4 days before it was cancelled, making his premise totally foolish.

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If you believe that the potential for an upset didn't play a role in Baylor cancelling the game, I have a bridge to sell you. The game didn't -need- to be cancelled, as Baylor (1) didn't have to cancel the game if it had less than the number of linemen set by the Big 12 (it could have still chosen to play under the Big 12 rules) and (2) Baylor could have unsuspended the suspended lineman so that it could play.

Baylor essentially cancelled the game by choice. I think it was the right decision - as a loss was potentially on the table and a close win would not have impressed anyone.

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You really didn't think this through. Or you did and you're not too bright.

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Didn't think what through?

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Your first sentence.